not only is the iPhone 6 unlocked, but the t-mobile phones work on verizon!

if someone makes a youtube video or writes a news story about my post, this time around i really would appreciate some credit. saying rigor mortis from apple discussions' is good enough.


it turns out that the iPhone 6 and 6 plus model numbers #1459 and #1522 are universal. and both have the CDMA radio enabled. However, Sprint models are still separate as far as i know. i did not test Sprint. but as far as AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon, go , it is the EXACT same phone. i was playing around with my iPhone 6 on launch day. i wanted to see if "ask maggie" was right and the phone was locked to a specific carrier. i tried the T-Mobile and AT&T sims that i had. they do not have service.


however when i inserted my LIVE and ACTIVATED Verizon Sim into my iPhone 6 , my iPhone suddenly became a verizon iPhone. i was able to Place and Receive calls using CDMA, i was able to use DATA services, and i was able to send SMS messages. i assumed that VoLTE was not enabled. and it was not. i assumed

that you had to buy a Verizon model to get Volte. but i was wrong. it just took a while to activate. and i did see use VoLTE in settings, for Voice and DATA


however, since the IMEI and MEID serial numbers are not listed with Verizon, you are not able to either Sign up to verizon, or to transfer service to your new iPhone 6. your service is still tied to your SIM card. and when the iPhone 6 is running and active with your sim card, your device listed on "MY Verizon" will be shown as NON VZW device and it will only show the sim card. but a pre-activated sim card pulling from another device will work in the iPhone 6.


this is just like the iPad Air and the iPad Mini Retina. the only difference between these phones is the serial number is put in some list that tells someone which

carrier it supposed to belong to, and if it is locked or not. and which sim card came with the device. other then that. there are no technical differences between them. except for sprint of course.



whenever i inserted a new sim card into the iPhone 6, it automatically got carrier settings and changed its baseband.

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Oct 1, 2014 8:32 PM in response to Michael Ginsberg

It should work, the problem is you would have to test what the workaround is. Of course they would tell you it's because it's a non Verizon device, which is untrue. My visual voicemail wasn't working and it just started working out of nowhere.


Anyway if you return the phone, tell them that you want to buy the Verizon model without activating because you are paying full price. This is how I was able to do it and didn't have to sign up for a contract. Or if you want to order it through your account you can just pay the ETF which might make the phone a bit cheaper anyway.

Oct 1, 2014 10:15 PM in response to rigormortis

Hello everyone, I'm new to this discussion section, but want to say few words from my own experience buying an iPhone at Full Retail price from Apple Store.


Last year, when I bought a gift to my wife at Apple Store T-mobile iPhone for full retail price, the guy in apple store told me its unlocked for sure because I paid full price for it, even there is no need to call T-mobile to start unlocking process. So I went very happy, but suddenly when I came back home and my wife wanted use her AT&T sim card it didn't work at all, keep saying use valid sim card. So I called T-mobile and surprise, they told me that I have to use their service for 40 days, so basically pay for 2 month service in order to unlock my phone for which I paid full retail price. It is recidivous!

This year, I went to Apple store to buy an iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus from T-mobile because I cannot sign in to contract since I'n not US citizen. So I paid again full retail price for it, got two phones, and now I was forces to use T-mobile service again for 40 days. Then they will unlock it. I'm using BlackWireless prepaid right now, and whoever want to order online or get an iPhone from apple store keep in mind that the only Verizon iPhone 6, iPhone 6 plus are fully GSM unlocked, I checked with my friends phone. But if you want to buy from apple store or verizon, you have to pay full price u still have to activate thru Verizon. What staff at Verizon Wireless told me that even if I pay full price at their store I have to put a deposit for $400 and open an account with them in order to use iPhone.


So, waiting my 32 days expire and then request an unlock from T-mobile.


Hope this info useful for some people who are not sure which one to get

Oct 2, 2014 5:58 AM in response to rigormortis

So, here is more info.


I have been unable to get "Voice & Data" (aka VOLTE) on my iPhone 6, Tmobile, purchased at Apple Store for Full Retail.


I happen to have a Verizon iPhone 6 Plus for Verizon available to me. I plugged in my active VZ SIM and I was able enabled "Voice & Data" and I disabled WiFi and sure enough, I was able to make a call and data at the same time. Now, I am thinking I have the "Advanced Calling 1.0" enabled on my account, because a VZW Phone 6 enabled and touched my account. I removed the SIM and put it on the iPhone 6 TMobile (full retail @ Apple store), where I previously was not able to enable. VOLTE now works, "Voice & Data" is enabled and I have confirmed that I can make a call and do data at the same time. Other way to check is disable WiFi, make a phone call and if "LTE" is still displayed, you are making a voice call over LTE.


BUT, as a workaround, if you are unable to use VOLTE and have access to a different iPhone - this does enable it.


So now that I have it working, I wonder at some point in the future, if Verizon will notice this isn't a "Verizon ESN" and disable this feature.


Update - I have access to two iPhone 6 (6 & 6 Plus) and now both work, but it required me to insert my active SIM into a VZ "branded" iphone 6 in order to add the service to my line.

Oct 2, 2014 9:32 AM in response to Limar1986usa

I'm not sure how is it that the unlock works, it's possible that it was already unlocked before you activated it with Tmobile. I purchased the 6 online and picked it up in the Apple store on 14th street in NYC. I took out the Tmobile sim before I even turned the phone on, popped in my AT&T sim and turned it on. Voila, it was unlocked.


Have you actually tried putting in non tmobile sim? If you do and the phone is still locked to Tmobile, then this confirms my theory that you cannot activate the phone with Tmobile or they will lock it. If it works then feel free to cancel that Tmobile line and use whatever company you please. It may have been different with the 5 and 5S, I'm not sure, but with the 6 and the 6 plus, the phones do come unlocked from Tmobile, but only if bought directly from Apple.

Oct 2, 2014 9:36 AM in response to Michael Ginsberg

This was my worry too, which is why I just went ahead and bought a Verizon model. I was afraid that they would cancel my service after a while if they realized I was using a non Verizon phone. Although, I still am a bit worried that they might contact me because I never activated the phone with postpaid, I simply put in my prepaid sim. Apple for some reason, will not deny or confirm if you HAVE to activate the phone with the carrier. I'm just glad I was able to get the last Verizon model in stock at the store at full price without having to activate with Verizon postpaid.

Oct 6, 2014 9:13 PM in response to bsnpilot69

Hi bsnpilot


May i know where you bought the Verizon Ip6 and if you paid full price or subsidized price?


I am planning to get a Verizon Iphone 6 on contract and then move to T-mobile but wasnt sure if it was unlocked to be used on T-mobile without any limitation on features. I thought i read that to use wifi calling it needs to be on a T-mobile purchased device (hopefully not true).


thanks

Oct 9, 2014 11:42 PM in response to mkarolian

I am having the same problem -- has Verizon just blocked the usage of new unlocked iPhone 6s? I have an iPhone 6 Plus that I bought last week internationally, fully unlocked, and when I tried to use it in the US today with a fully activated Verizon SIM card and it went to "No Service" after showing "Verizon LTE" for about 5 seconds. I tried my friend's Verizon SIM and same result. The two SIMs work fine in our Verizon iPhone 5s. Sigh...

Oct 10, 2014 7:03 AM in response to austinrawr

Wow....just got a lesson on apple, verizon, and tmobile. They all want your money and offer worthless options. Basically force you into a new contract. Tmobile wants you for 7 days before they will unlock your phone from apple...supposedly. Apple wants $1000 for a phone that only works with one junk network. Verizon will only let you use a iphone if you buy it from them.


well....I say screw all of you. all greedy companies that want more more and more.


I can't believe the trouble I've been through trying to get a phone activated. Keep your electronic crap.


Just another disgusted verizon and apple customer. Good job taking care of your long time customers..

Oct 10, 2014 7:29 AM in response to Rippedoff1963

I would love to agree with you, but your claims are not accurate.


If you buy tmobile version from apple store, the phone is NOT LOCKED. i don't know where you are getting the information from, but i've personally tested it and I'm using Tmobile phone that i bought from US apple store with KT telecom here in Korea. I've put in ATT & Verizon sim and the phone works just fine. I've never put tmobile sim in my iphone 6 since i bought it.


So your claim of apple selling you a phone for $1000 for a network that only works on a junk network, it simply isn't true.


Verizon has always been for the past who knows how long only allowed phone bought from them to work on their network. While i agree that it's a total BS, but you are getting mad at something that has been the norm and something that Sprint is also doing with far inferior network.


I don't know if Verizon changed their policy recently,but if you take a look at my previous post, I was able to get the Tmobile iphone6 on Verizon with full VOLTE working. I can't confirm at this point if that's still the case, but it was working before.

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