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Q: not only is the iPhone 6 unlocked, but the t-mobile phones work on verizon!

if someone makes a youtube video or writes a news story about my post, this time around i really would appreciate some credit.  saying rigor mortis  from apple discussions' is good enough.

 

it turns out that the iPhone 6 and 6 plus model numbers #1459 and #1522 are universal. and both have the CDMA radio enabled. However, Sprint models are still separate as far as i know. i did not test Sprint. but as far as AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon, go , it is the EXACT same phone. i was playing around with my iPhone 6 on launch day. i wanted to see if "ask maggie" was right and the phone was locked to a specific carrier. i tried the T-Mobile and AT&T sims that i had. they do not have service.

 

however when i inserted my LIVE and ACTIVATED Verizon Sim into my iPhone 6 , my iPhone suddenly became a verizon iPhone. i was able to Place and Receive calls using CDMA, i was able to use DATA services, and i was able to send SMS messages. i assumed that VoLTE was not enabled. and it  was not. i assumed

that you had to buy a Verizon model to get Volte. but i was wrong. it just took a while to activate. and i did see use VoLTE in settings, for Voice and DATA

 

however, since the IMEI and MEID serial numbers are not listed with Verizon, you are not able to either Sign up to verizon, or to transfer service to your new iPhone 6. your service is still tied to your SIM card. and when the iPhone 6 is running and active with your sim card, your device listed on "MY Verizon" will be shown as NON VZW device and it will only show the sim card. but a pre-activated sim card pulling from another device will work in the iPhone 6.

 

this is just like the iPad Air and the iPad Mini Retina. the only difference between these phones is the serial number is put in some list that tells someone which

carrier it supposed to belong to, and if it is locked or not. and which sim card came with the device. other then that. there are no technical differences between them. except for sprint of course.

 

 

whenever i inserted a new sim card into the iPhone 6, it automatically got carrier settings and changed its baseband.

Posted on Sep 22, 2014 9:30 AM

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Q: not only is the iPhone 6 unlocked, but the t-mobile phones work on verizon!

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  • by ckyapple,

    ckyapple ckyapple Dec 8, 2014 9:11 AM in response to rigormortis
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    Dec 8, 2014 9:11 AM in response to rigormortis

    Is it same if I buy an AT&T no contract full price iPhone 6 from apple store? Can I use it on any other network just like the T-mobile iPhone you said?

  • by xchpstang,

    xchpstang xchpstang Dec 13, 2014 4:05 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Dec 13, 2014 4:05 PM in response to rigormortis

    For everyone's information, I purchased a 6+ through AT&T. It was some pricing glitch with a refurb 128gb 6 Plus costing 449.99 without contract. They usually cost 300-400 more and I assume it was a glitch since within a couple of hours the price had gone up 350 dollars. I grabbed it at the mistake price and they honored it without any issues.

     

    Since I technically bought it at full price they also agreed to unlock it. After unlocking it I stuck my active Verizon SIM card in it and it works perfectly. As others have noted it shows as an unrecognized device on My Verizon but everything works perfectly: visual voicemail, LTE, VoLTE, etc.. I am now trying to see if this phone will activate on Sprint. I have an existing Sprint account but don't have a spare SIM lying around so they are shipping. FWIW it did recognize the phone on Sprint's online ESN swap portal as an iPhone 6+ but obviously I can't proceed until I get the Sprint SIM. Will be reporting on this as soon as I get the SIM. I'm optimistic this will work as the phone has the 800 and 1900 MHz LTE bands plus all the CDMA bands for Sprint but obviously this model A1522 is missing the 2500 MHz band for Sprint.  (For those that have wondered, the reverse won't work: you can't put a Sprint iPhone 6 on Tmobile, VZW, AT&T etc no matter what you do. If you get them to unlock it will only be for non US carriers. There is no workaround at the moment)

  • by JezzyFizzle,

    JezzyFizzle JezzyFizzle Jan 4, 2015 1:09 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Jan 4, 2015 1:09 PM in response to rigormortis

    Hi rigomortis,

     

    I was just curious to know if an unlocked iPhone 6 would work for Boost Mobile? I have them and they're out of stock of the iPhone 6. I don't think they use Sim Cards and don't want to buy an unlocked one and have it not work. The reason why I'd rather not switch is because I now pay $40 for my service and get unlimited talk and text, and 2.5GB of data. I just refuse to pay double the money for what I already get. Please help. I really want to get the iPhone 6 badly.

  • by brettnyc,

    brettnyc brettnyc Jan 4, 2015 4:56 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Jan 4, 2015 4:56 PM in response to rigormortis

    I purchased 2 iPhone 6's at launch (T-Mobile/Unlocked from Apple Store),

     

    One was for my fiance' who already has Verizon so I inserted her Verizon SIM and ALL Verizon features work great.

     

    The 2nd phone, I activated on Cricket (AT&T) for 3-4 months, I recently moved over to Verizon as my company pays the bill. They gave me SIM, and only my voice and data work. The Verizon store cannot add the Visual Voicemail, HotSpot feature. I cannot activate the LTE Voice feature either. I've been the Verizon store 4 times with no success. They said it was a T-Mobile phone and it cannot be added to the Verizon database. I also just reset/deleted and completely downloaded > restored iOS via iTunes. No success.

     

    Any suggestions?

     

    Will Apple Genius Bar help me? My fiance's phone works perfectly, but not mine. How is this possible?

  • by n808n808,

    n808n808 n808n808 Jan 5, 2015 12:20 PM in response to brettnyc
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    Jan 5, 2015 12:20 PM in response to brettnyc

    I was trying to find a way to buy an unlocked Verizon iPhone 6 without a contract, since I thought it would offer the most bands and compatibility. However, from what I am reading here, it seems there is absolutely zero difference between the unlocked T-Mobile no-contract iPhone available from Apple stores and online, and the "Verizon" no-contract iPhone.

     

    So going to an Apple store and asking for a "device only, full price" Verizon iPhone 6 will get me the exact same phone model as the "T-Mobile" no-contract phones sold from Apple online.. The Apple LTE info page also indicates this to be true (https://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/)

     

    Reading back through the pages I am 99% sure what I wrote above is correct - just double-checking in case any new information has come to light the last couple of months.

  • by rekamyenom,

    rekamyenom rekamyenom Jan 5, 2015 11:03 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Jan 5, 2015 11:03 PM in response to rigormortis

    In my experience  ...If you get (buy or replacement) a new iphone 6 or 6 plus from The Apple Store, It will work with any sim card out of the box, but once you reset the device (Wipe it/erase it/reset it) it will lock to the carrier it was intended for. Anyone know why is this?

  • by n808n808,

    n808n808 n808n808 Jan 6, 2015 11:04 AM in response to n808n808
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    Jan 6, 2015 11:04 AM in response to n808n808

    Actually, the Apple store now offers a SIM-free unlocked iPhone 6. This is model A1586, as opposed to the A1549, which you get if you buy the one that comes with a T-Mobile SIM. The A1586 supports a few more LTE bands (38-41)  than the A1549 so it should be even more world-compatible than the T-Mobile/AT&T/Verizon flavor. So the SIM-free version is probably the one I will be ordering.

  • by Adiida,

    Adiida Adiida Jan 24, 2015 3:30 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Jan 24, 2015 3:30 PM in response to rigormortis

    Hi Rigor Mortis, question - I will get an iPhone 6 through work / for work but must be on Verizon network. I'd like to get to use it on my personal T-mobile plan in a few months - will this be possible? Thanks!

  • by ManSinha,

    ManSinha ManSinha Jan 24, 2015 5:29 PM in response to Adiida
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    Jan 24, 2015 5:29 PM in response to Adiida

    If you are planning to leave your work and take your phone with you then yes it will be possible - I have T Mo myself

    However if you are asking about using them simultaneously then no

  • by Adiida,

    Adiida Adiida Jan 25, 2015 8:21 AM in response to ManSinha
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    Jan 25, 2015 8:21 AM in response to ManSinha

    Thanks ManSinha. I can pay a little extra for the handset and it's mine right away, just the data / voice plan will be on company plan. I have TMobile & will keep a 2nd line on there so I can go back with the handset to TMobile afterwards - so no, not going to use simultaneously.

  • by mattaz02,

    mattaz02 mattaz02 Feb 8, 2015 5:14 PM in response to dpiatek
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    Feb 8, 2015 5:14 PM in response to dpiatek

    T-mobile unlocked phone works perfectly on my existing Verizon account with sim from my Verizon iPhone 5. Question is.. Am I able to sell my old iPhone 5 on eBay? Or for another person to use it, must it be removed from Verizon account? I am thinking since I am using the MEID from my Verizon iPhone 5, to use my t-mobile iPhone 6+, that I wouldn't be able to sell my old 5. Or is the account tied solely to the SIM card and not the MEID? Any thoughts?"

     

     

    Anyone have any insight on this?

  • by mattaz02,

    mattaz02 mattaz02 Mar 5, 2015 1:34 AM in response to mattaz02
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    Mar 5, 2015 1:34 AM in response to mattaz02

    Question for those who are using the T-Mobile unlocked model on Verizon... I transferred 8 lines over to Verizon from T-Mobile. 6 of the phones were iPhone 6's or 6+'s from T-Mobile(unlocked). I was able to get them all activated using a Verizon branded iphone 5c then transferring the activated SIM card into the iPhone6's. Now since I brought my own phones I should be receiving the $25 off per line on the more everything plan, but Verizon can't seem to get it to work in their system. They are saying that the codes they are using are not being accepted. If I put the sim card from one of the 6's into the 5c(Verizon phone) then they are able to add the discount, but once I put that sim card back into the iPhone6 the discount goes away since it now shows up as a non VZW device. Has anyone been able to get the $25 a month discount added? If so HOW???? Thanks in advance.

  • by raja777m,

    raja777m raja777m Mar 11, 2015 1:24 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Mar 11, 2015 1:24 PM in response to rigormortis

    In my case, it is different.

    I have model #1549, iPhone 6, ATT.

    on websites like checkESN and 'swappa imei check' pages, my phone shows as verizon.

    before i checked it with other sim cards/network providers, i got it factory unlocked for 15$. Did anyone faced the same issue?

    please check your phone here and see what it shows.
    1. http://checkesnfree.com/

    2. http://swappa.com/esn

     

    P.S. I got it unlocked because i'm planning to tavel outside country and don't want to buy another phone for my trip, so i got this unlocked.

    Please reply if you saved few bucks on unlocking..!

  • by Johnnola504,

    Johnnola504 Johnnola504 Mar 16, 2015 10:19 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Mar 16, 2015 10:19 PM in response to rigormortis
    • Okay this is what I had to do to get my T-Mobile unlocked iPhone six to work on Verizon's network.
    • I purchased my iPhone six from the Apple Store as a T-Mobile model and paid cash for it.
    • I went on eBay and purchased an iPhone 5c barely working for $120 it had a cracked screen but clean icloud and Esn.
    • I purchased a PagePlus nano Sim card off of eBay for five dollars.
    • Note the iPhone 5c was a Verizon phone. That is most important.
    • I activated the PagePlus Sim in the iPhone 5c.
    • Verizon will not acknowledge any phone on their network that is not a Verizon phone.
    • Once I activated it on the iPhone 5c Verizon now sees that as a Verizon phone and associates the Sim card with that ESN.
    • I removed the Sim card from the iPhone C and put it in my iPhone 6 Plus T-Mobile phone.
    • Now my Now by T-Mobile iPhone 6 Plus will work on Verizon's network.
  • by billa9668,

    billa9668 billa9668 Mar 23, 2015 11:44 AM in response to rigormortis
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    Mar 23, 2015 11:44 AM in response to rigormortis

    Can a At&t phone that has not been unlocked though the carrier because the owner did not fulfill her commitment to pay for it be activated by inserting a Verizon Sim card into it and turning it on. I would greatly appreciate help on this. Thanks.

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