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Q: not only is the iPhone 6 unlocked, but the t-mobile phones work on verizon!

if someone makes a youtube video or writes a news story about my post, this time around i really would appreciate some credit.  saying rigor mortis  from apple discussions' is good enough.

 

it turns out that the iPhone 6 and 6 plus model numbers #1459 and #1522 are universal. and both have the CDMA radio enabled. However, Sprint models are still separate as far as i know. i did not test Sprint. but as far as AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon, go , it is the EXACT same phone. i was playing around with my iPhone 6 on launch day. i wanted to see if "ask maggie" was right and the phone was locked to a specific carrier. i tried the T-Mobile and AT&T sims that i had. they do not have service.

 

however when i inserted my LIVE and ACTIVATED Verizon Sim into my iPhone 6 , my iPhone suddenly became a verizon iPhone. i was able to Place and Receive calls using CDMA, i was able to use DATA services, and i was able to send SMS messages. i assumed that VoLTE was not enabled. and it  was not. i assumed

that you had to buy a Verizon model to get Volte. but i was wrong. it just took a while to activate. and i did see use VoLTE in settings, for Voice and DATA

 

however, since the IMEI and MEID serial numbers are not listed with Verizon, you are not able to either Sign up to verizon, or to transfer service to your new iPhone 6. your service is still tied to your SIM card. and when the iPhone 6 is running and active with your sim card, your device listed on "MY Verizon" will be shown as NON VZW device and it will only show the sim card. but a pre-activated sim card pulling from another device will work in the iPhone 6.

 

this is just like the iPad Air and the iPad Mini Retina. the only difference between these phones is the serial number is put in some list that tells someone which

carrier it supposed to belong to, and if it is locked or not. and which sim card came with the device. other then that. there are no technical differences between them. except for sprint of course.

 

 

whenever i inserted a new sim card into the iPhone 6, it automatically got carrier settings and changed its baseband.

Posted on Sep 22, 2014 9:30 AM

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Q: not only is the iPhone 6 unlocked, but the t-mobile phones work on verizon!

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  • by Rippedoff1963,

    Rippedoff1963 Rippedoff1963 Oct 10, 2014 11:23 AM in response to ianhall186
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    Oct 10, 2014 11:23 AM in response to ianhall186

    When I put my wife's iphone 5 sim in it works perfectly...but with her number  of course.  So the phone is unlocked. Is there any way I can activate the verizon sim that I have before putting it in the iphone 6.   I have a droid maxx so I can't just put that card in the iphone.

  • by ianhall186,

    ianhall186 ianhall186 Oct 10, 2014 11:46 AM in response to Rippedoff1963
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    Oct 10, 2014 11:46 AM in response to Rippedoff1963

    You have to get a nano sim. You can activate the new sim with your wife's phone then pop the sim back to your phone. Then your wife can put her sim back in her phone.

  • by jon4lakers,

    jon4lakers jon4lakers Oct 10, 2014 11:50 AM in response to rigormortis
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    Oct 10, 2014 11:50 AM in response to rigormortis

    Can anyone give a definitive answer if visual voicemail works using a Tmo unlocked device on Verizon?

  • by ianhall186,

    ianhall186 ianhall186 Oct 10, 2014 11:57 AM in response to jon4lakers
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    Oct 10, 2014 11:57 AM in response to jon4lakers

    Yes. Visual voicemail works. You do have to setup your regular voicemail first and VV should start working after a while. All other features work as well including VOLTE, except for prepaid which doesn't have it yet. Also only the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus work, the 5S and other non Verizon iphones don't work.

  • by jon4lakers,

    jon4lakers jon4lakers Oct 10, 2014 11:57 AM in response to ianhall186
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    Oct 10, 2014 11:57 AM in response to ianhall186

    Wonderful, thank you!

  • by Michael Ginsberg,

    Michael Ginsberg Michael Ginsberg Oct 10, 2014 12:02 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Oct 10, 2014 12:02 PM in response to rigormortis

    Just to add....

     

    I bought the Tmobile unlocked.  EVERYTHING worked great, except VOLTE did not.  I called VZ and they told me that I was not using Verizon Equipment and they couldn't activate "Advancing Calling 1.0" features unless I had a "Verizon phone".  I really needed VOLTE and they would not activate it.

     

    I was able to trick VZ by activating my wife's VZ iPhone 6 on the SIM and turning on "Voice & Data" for LTE and then moving the SIM back to my Tmobile (paid full retail at Apple Store) and it did work.  BUT, I am sure at some point, VZ would see I had a non Verizon phone using advanced features and they would turn it off.

     

    I exchanged the Tmobile unlocked iPhone 6 for a Verizon one (paid full retail) and all is now working perfectly.

  • by mkarolian,

    mkarolian mkarolian Oct 10, 2014 5:39 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Oct 10, 2014 5:39 PM in response to rigormortis

    So does anyone currently have a full-priced T-Mobile iPhone 6 that they purchased from Apple working on Verizon?

  • by rigormortis,

    rigormortis rigormortis Oct 11, 2014 1:36 AM in response to mkarolian
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    Oct 11, 2014 1:36 AM in response to mkarolian

    yes, my full price t-mobile phone works perfectly on verizon. i am afraid i have 15 days left on my contract. i am worried verizon will get mad about me having a device that s not an official verizon device and charging me $120 , i test it once in a while to make sure it works 100 % of the time but

    i don't want to get busted!

  • by jon4lakers,

    jon4lakers jon4lakers Oct 11, 2014 10:01 AM in response to rigormortis
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    Oct 11, 2014 10:01 AM in response to rigormortis

    Does Verizon care that the deice isn't an official Verizon device?

  • by Rippedoff1963,

    Rippedoff1963 Rippedoff1963 Oct 11, 2014 3:25 PM in response to ianhall186
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    Oct 11, 2014 3:25 PM in response to ianhall186

    Thank you. It works perfectly now.

    The only thing I miss is insurance but I can use square trade or ensquared for that. I'd like to thank apple for a unlocked device and not thank verizon for wasting hours of my time.I  would have just bought it from verizon had they offered it without a contract. It was only after the fact they informed me I could get it off contract.  Very sneaky... disappointed.

  • by pastywantaun77,

    pastywantaun77 pastywantaun77 Oct 11, 2014 7:41 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Oct 11, 2014 7:41 PM in response to rigormortis

    So I have an iPhone 5s on verizon and i still have till april 2015 on my contract... If i buy a t mobile iPhone 6 i can take my sim and put it in there and it will work perfectly with no problems at all?

  • by pastywantaun77,

    pastywantaun77 pastywantaun77 Oct 11, 2014 7:51 PM in response to nayabryan
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    Oct 11, 2014 7:51 PM in response to nayabryan

    is it still working with no problems at all?

  • by Michael Ginsberg,

    Michael Ginsberg Michael Ginsberg Oct 11, 2014 7:54 PM in response to pastywantaun77
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    Oct 11, 2014 7:54 PM in response to pastywantaun77

    some me have had problems and some haven't.  I started off with a TMobile and returned it for a VZW (paid full retail at Apple store) and all is well

  • by austinrawr,

    austinrawr austinrawr Oct 12, 2014 1:04 PM in response to rigormortis
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    Oct 12, 2014 1:04 PM in response to rigormortis

    Some people are saying that the only reason the voice is working is because of the LTE? is this correct? Or have you been able ot make phone calls without LTE coverage and VoLTE enabled?

  • by jlfarias,

    jlfarias jlfarias Oct 13, 2014 10:01 AM in response to ianhall186
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    Oct 13, 2014 10:01 AM in response to ianhall186

    Hello Ian, PLEEEEEASEEEE share how you have managed to buy an iPhone 6 full price without activating a plan and contract?

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