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Oct 23, 2014 6:58 PM in response to Star Travelerby Star Traveler,It's SUPER OBVIOUS that some people need to read the "Terms of Use" for this forum, like the previous poster who had his RANT removed (and a rant filled with falsehoods)! Take the time to understand what this forum is about, okay? ... :-) ...
Apple Support Communities Terms of Use
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-5952
Community Etiquette
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Oct 23, 2014 7:20 PM in response to Star Travelerby alba63,Star Traveller,
regardless of whether you are on Apple's payroll or not (you certainly do a lot to make people think so) it would help not to play the "know- it- all guy" and to constantly patronize and instruct people about what's right or wrong. There are lots who go through difficulties with iOS8 on their units, this is a simple fact, one can see it on both english and german forums. This hasn't happened with former versions to the same extent. For those people it is no help if some have managed to get their iPAD 2 units working after a total reinstall. It would be Apple's job to inform people before that this is what probably has to be done when installing 8.x on an older unit.
Because this is exactly what I had to do today. I finally decided to give my iPAD 2 on iOS 5.1 a try, I did it on my iPAD directly. After everything seemed ok after the upgrade I ended up with a unit that froze in reboot and was unuseable allthogether. I had to go through the DFU service mode and wipe everything/ start from scratch.
This should not happen, because iTunes kept offereing me the upgrade since weeks.
So to make the long story short, I did a complete wipe and fresh reinstall without reinstalling a backup. App after app. This is time- consuming and should be clear before. No excuse for Apple here. Bad and un-userfriendly procedure.
The good part is that in the end I now have got a well working iPAD that does what it has to, quite fluidly (only switching on "reduce Motion"). So after all I am ok with what I have got, but I am not ok with the way I had to do it. We are talking 4-5 hours here (and I am not yet done) instead of an automatic process that should happen within an hour.
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Oct 23, 2014 7:26 PM in response to Star Travelerby Alessio Marcheggiani,Star Traveler,
There are no rituals to follow to amend the lack of customer care Apple showed so far.
Facts are facts. You may like it or not. Your Employer may like it or not.
But they still stands.
Apple is forcing users to switch to a newer technology. It's called programmed obsolescence. What am i supposed to do with an unusable piece of hardware not enough powerful to run the software which I have no way to remove from it?
Enlighten me.
Alessio
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Oct 23, 2014 7:27 PM in response to alba63by Star Traveler,Just because I'm a user on this forum who does provide a variety of solutions for various problems, doesn't in and of itself make me a "know it all" ... LOL ...
In case you don't know, this forum does have moderators who keep things in line with the "Terms of Use" here, and I really do appreciate those moderators and their work in keeping things on track ... even when they get me a few times, too ... :-) ...
Just keep it to asking for solutions to a problem from another user ... one in which you can implement it yourself ... OR ... keep it to providing those solutions that other users can implement themselves -- and you'll be okay.
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by Star Traveler,Oct 23, 2014 7:39 PM in response to Alessio Marcheggiani
Star Traveler
Oct 23, 2014 7:39 PM
in response to Alessio Marcheggiani
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Apple TVI can see you're unaware of the fact that Apple is selling - TODAY - the iPad 2 model in its online store and it offers a full two-year warranty with it, too! You're stating things which are shown to be totally false, by the virtue Apple can't be making a model to be "obsolete" when they sell it today and will provide you with a full two years of warranty on it ... LOL ...
You should align your "imagination" with the "facts" of what Apple does ... :-) ...
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Oct 23, 2014 7:40 PM in response to Star Travelerby Alessio Marcheggiani,Oh come on, bet you can do better than this without resorting to erase other's people posts.
I'm obviously aware of that!
Guess your employer has heaps of stores full of crates filled with ipad2 that needs to go!
I'm stating that Apple will not provide a solution for what is seen as an issue to many many customers. Prove me wrong, and i'm ready to provide my apologies to whom it may concerns.
Cheers
Alessio
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by Star Traveler,Oct 23, 2014 7:47 PM in response to Alessio Marcheggiani
Star Traveler
Oct 23, 2014 7:47 PM
in response to Alessio Marcheggiani
Level 4 (1,612 points)
Apple TVWhat you seem to be totally unaware of -- is very simply -- the "Terms of Use" for this forum. I would venture a guess that if someone can't understand those "terms of use" then the solutions given here on this forum by other users are going to be even "less understood" by that person.
THEREFORE, my suggestion is that since you don't seem to be able to find any solution given here by "users helping other users" ... that you proceed directly to the Official channel of APPLE SUPPORT. And, this forum, by the way, is not Apple Support. They don't come here.
You need to go to the OFFICIAL APPLE SUPPORT where they are set up to help people like you ...
Apple Support
Apple Retail Store - Genius Bar
http://www.apple.com/retail/geniusbar/
Product Feedback
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Oct 23, 2014 7:57 PM in response to Alessio Marcheggianiby alba63,Hi Allessio, at what point are you with you iPAD? And what model?
I have the iPAD 2, now with 8.1, and it is working normally again. With normally I mean apps are starting in normal time, except a few games for my daughter that don't seem to be compatible with 8.1. No crashes so far, some "stuttering" from time to time when moving through the pages of my desktop.
If you experience problems, you may have to go through a complete reinstall from scratch. This takes quite a while, but should work after all.
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Oct 23, 2014 8:16 PM in response to alba63by Alessio Marcheggiani,Hey Alba!
Ipad 2, 64 gb, Wifi+3g, IOS 8
Sluggishness, unexpected application close, fail to load 3 tabs in Safari, battery flat after less than a day of use. I mean the usual stuff everyone is experiencing.
Just for the sake of conversation i'll try to update to IOS 8.1 (since downgrade is impossible) let's see if things will improve a bit.
Cheers!
Alessio
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Oct 24, 2014 4:45 AM in response to Alessio Marcheggianiby alba63,Alessio, you have exactly the same version of the iPAD as I have, so it should be feasable.
I just test loaded 4 Tabs in Safari, it works, however I never use Safari (my preferred Browser is Dolphin since a while). But I admit that I still have some doubts about how fast websites load. This seems a bit slow, also when changing between tabs Websites tend to get reloaded every time. This is slow. Maybe there is a setting that can switch off this behaviour.
But I had zero crashes or freeze-ups.So do what you think is best, but I guess the fastest way is to skip installing 8.1 over 8.0 and go the clean reinstall route directly. Then you can still think about trying a recover of your current backup.
Best wishes.
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Oct 24, 2014 6:40 AM in response to pacoKASby Thomas McCullough Jr.,My iPad2 works great now after IOS 8.1 Update
I did my iPad2 16GB update thru iTunes on my iMac and it was sucking the iMacs memory very low during the update. Safari froze before loading the first web page and I did a hard boot and went fishing as I saw where it was going to take a long time to recover. When I tried again it wasn't quite right and then did one more hard boot and then did a Reset by going to General-Reset-"Reset all Settings" and it works real well now without loosing any data and in-home wi-fi clocks at 17Mbps download. Probably like most of you I’m sticking with OSX 10.9.5 Mavericks as it gets the job done very nicely and don’t need all that extra fancy stuff that probably will slow things down.
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Oct 24, 2014 1:58 PM in response to alba63by Alessio Marcheggiani,Hey Alba.
Thank you for your support.
Unfortunately it's still really slow and not really comparable to what i had before. This is really frustrating.
But i'm not going to buy another tablet because a company has decided that i should be stuck to using an IOS clearly
not developed for my hardware. That would be fostering this behaviour.
I'll wait until someone finds a suitable solution to the issue.
Many thanks anyway!
Cheers
Alessio
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Oct 24, 2014 2:08 PM in response to Thomas McCullough Jr.by Alessio Marcheggiani,Hello Thomas!
Thank you for your insight.
I am using Maverick in my production environment and trying Yosemite on my test one.
To be honest i don't know how the OS running beneath Itunes should impact tablet performances.
About the installed apps, i don't have that many on the tablet.
I just used it to write memo, reading the newspapers and social networking, really basic stuff that should be running flawlessly
on every device hitting the market. Except my actual situation.
I am very much disappointed by the vendor.
Where's the "think different?" and what about the "Stay foolish, stay hungry?"
Markets are based on customers. When quality degrades, customer leave.
This lesson should be learned by someone i guess.
Cheers
Alessio
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Oct 24, 2014 3:10 PM in response to Alessio Marcheggianiby alba63,Alessio,
you did not mention clearly what upgrade path you finally chose: 8.1 on top of 8.0 or factory reset via iTunes and clean reinstall?
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Oct 24, 2014 3:12 PM in response to alba63by Alessio Marcheggiani,Hi Alba63!
Opted for the 8.1 on top of 8.0. But i am gonna give it a go with a clean reinstall as soon i have enough time to spend on that.