Q: IPAD2 very slow after IOS 8 upgrade

Matteos

Do not completely lose faith in Apple.  There are a couple of complacent voices in this discussion group that are trying to paper over the massive cracks in IOS8.  Some of the issues of IOS8 are still only coming to light - the corruption of iBooks and the failure of backups.  None of my personal contacts that have upgraded to IOS8 have a functioning device.  This problem is much broader than others would have you believe.its just a shame so many loyal customers are suffering.

alan

VVery true, currently I have, I think,  ten levels of backup on iTunes.  But none of them will restore on IOS8.  Very sad.

alan

John

in the UK we call it 'Sod's Law'.  My previous restores have all worked ok, whether resetting or a new device.  But you can guarantee the one you need I'll screw up!!

I think IOS8 may have deeper issues than just performance.  Had your clients backed up their data or juse relied upon Apple's prior great record of reliability?

alan

John

That is a very impressive backup regime!  My backup regime is much simpler.  ITune s back up multiple times a week for iPads and iPhones to my iMac which is backed up via Timemachine to my Time capsule every hour.  I thought a very stable regime.  Unfortunately, it doesn't work when I try to restore a backup from iTunes.  Does rather dent one's faith in the whole backup regime - maybe i should try and restore from the TimeCapsule?  Not sure I have the faith at the moment

alan

You should not have 'relied upon Apple's prior great record of reliability?'. Either your data is important enough to you to take individual and extremely secure steps to back it up or you do not. In which case an iOS/3rd Party App conflict  or the actual theft of accidental damage to the device may render it inoperable. I backup my iPod on iTunes. I can recover my music if something fails. I backup my photos to iPhoto and then to an external drive. I back my documents up to iCloud and Dropbox. I then retrieve the on my Mac and transfer them to an external drive. Devices die. Devices get broken, devices get stolen. Backup is your number 1 protection against such instances.

iTunes is NOT a reliable backup on it's own. In fact Time Machine is not a reliable backup on it's own. Neither are any of the other types of online storage out there or in the cloud. Always keep two backups and keep one elsewhere than your own home. Always have a bootable clone as one of your backups. Regularly updated.

You can choose only iTunes. Nobody in any businesses I deal with would. But we all have choices. Many here are here to complain because they made the wrong choice and have now lost important data. We have SOME responsibility as iPad, iPhone or Mac users to protect our important data, Computers are not magic boxes.

Cheers

Pete

John

WHere has the post I just replied to gone? Are we losing posts?

alan

A Actually, I do have a further non Apple backup of the important data - but not iBook pdfs.  But I find it informative that you are arguing that Timemachine and Timecapsule are not the reliable backup source that Apple would have us believe.  Yet further disappointment

alan

Skooty Alan wrote:

 

A Actually, I do have a further non Apple backup of the important data - but not iBook pdfs.  But I find it informative that you are arguing that Timemachine and Timecapsule are not the reliable backup source that Apple would have us believe.  Yet further disappointment

 

alan

I am not saying they are totally unreliable. I am saying that anybody who really cares about protecting their precious data need to have a few extra backup strategies, as you would find out quickly if you found someone had stolen your Mac, you iOS device AND your TimeCapsule. Most of the time this won't happen, but remember that Apple (as with GoogleDrive) will put no guarantee on you loosing your data through bad luck, stupidity, theft or a blind belief. But trust what you wish. Just don't cry back here if it happens.

Pete

Skooty Alan wrote:

 

A Actually, I do have a further non Apple backup of the important data - but not iBook pdfs.  But I find it informative that you are arguing that Timemachine and Timecapsule are not the reliable backup source that Apple would have us believe.  Yet further disappointment

 

alan

I've always instructed our clients to NOT use one type of backup. I know that Timemachine can and does fail for instance - I've seen that many times.   However, I only serve as a consultant for the iThings (iPad/iPhone) - those are generally not under my control in the business networks. So many of them are bring your own device type environments, so unless they need help getting it to recognize their server, or loading an oddball app and configuring it, or even repairing a broken display, we don't even touch them.   We send out emails and have documents we distribute which give best practices, but do the end users see them? I doubt it.

The three people who I encountered last week with lost documents had all backed up prior to the update, multiple times.   But had simply used the cloud backup and the iTunes backup on their computers.  They did not utilize a 3rd party app.  Nor did I.  

All my emails are on my Exchange server, I can't lose those, short of a disaster that affects 1000 miles from here 8-)... The apps, I can redownload and reconfigure. Photos are mostly all on Dropbox/Copy as well as the iPad, which means they are on 3 desktops I use, and those desktops are imaged to our NAS and remote backups and redundant servers.   Leaving my notes... That's the only thing I didn't have some form of multiple backup of...
I'm not going to cry over them.

Alan

Have you lost ibook pdf's, I though this was something I did but mine disappeared on shifting to iOS 8.1

I am also having this problem. My ipad2 is almost unusable since the iOS8 update - which I only completed yesterday!

i wish I had seen this thread before I updated, my iPad is ruined now!

iOS8 vandalised my iPad2!

if this is how apple treat their customers I am never buying an apple device ever again.

AmidoTC wrote:

 

I am also having this problem. My ipad2 is almost unusable since the iOS8 update - which I only completed yesterday!

 

i wish I had seen this thread before I updated, my iPad is ruined now!

 

iOS8 vandalised my iPad2!

 

if this is how apple treat their customers I am never buying an apple device ever again.

So what troubleshooting steps have you taken? There are many on these forums which have solved iPad2 users issues. What have you tried so far?

Pete

LEslie

Yes, every PDFs in iBooks was lost on migration to IOS8.  I have been unable to bring them back successfully from an older backup.  Very frustrating!  Did you lose all your iBook docs?

Have you managed to recover any?

alan

>So what troubleshooting steps have you taken? There are many on these forums which have solved iPad2 users issues. What have you tried so far?

I tried turning it off and on again, first (of course). Then I tried a reset, holding sleep/wake and home button until apple logo appeared. Then I tried deleting apps I don't use, and deleting unnecessary photos (I hoped clearing space might improve performance) - no improvement. Then I tried turning off movement and transparency - again no improvement.

Safari is the worst - it fails to load pages 60% of the time, and has terrible lags on sites I use frequently, like Facebook, where whole aspects of the page suddenly disappear for no apparent reason, or the page freezes, until the entire browser crashes, often losing messages I was in the middle of writing.

Skooty Alan wrote:

 

Have you managed to recover any?

 

Here's a real simple secondary backup for PDF files in iBooks ... as you get them (and I know people accumulate them over time), you just send yourself a copy in your e-mail. Create a folder in your e-mail account called PDF Backup. Then, if something happens to your primary backup, you've got your secondard backup.