Q: Can I use family sharing without a credit card

wife.mum.girl.au wrote:

 

ha, even in Australia?? this is an interesting situation where the rules of one country are being imposed on the citizens of another,

Nonsense, it's the rules of one company being imposed on everyone equally.

really? Apple only has those "rules" due to USA laws.

Apple is a US based company. If any of data regarding a child under 13 is stored on US servers, they must comply with US law when doing so.

wife.mum.girl.au wrote:

 

really? Apple only has those "rules" due to USA laws.

I doubt there is any law in the US or anywhere else for that matter, that requires someone to verify the age of a customer using credit card details only.

It should be reasonably clear to anyone who stops and thinks about it for a moment that these are requirements put in place by Apple from choice and nothing to do with US law. You might want to stop and think about it for a moment yourself.

Children as young as 11 can get debit cards, debit cards would be a ridiculous method of verification.

I'm not trying to be argumentative. (but the whole "can't register for Facebook etc until 13" is certainly a US law that is applied globally.)

A debit card is not the same as a VISA debit card, which, AFAIK, children cannot apply for.  For me personally, we only have a business CC, which won't work. So the whole "you can switch back to a debit card" just doesn't apply. They need another option.

I think you are wrong about debit cards but that is really quite irrelevant in the matter of whether its a US law imposed on an Australian or not (which is what you claimed was happening, there is no US law that states you can only use a credit card to verify a persons age, a driving license is used regularly to verify someones age for the purchase of alcohol. So the decision to only accept credit cards is Apple's decision it's not something they have done because of the law.

And by the way a business credit card worked just fine for me.

Guys, the question is: why prooving age only from a card? The debate is not with credit card vs bank card vs business card...

Why could not we simply go to an apple store to validate our age. I like this idea...
I do NOT want to give card details. dot... and nowadays I have no alternatives to have a familiy sharing.

The real reason for the credit card, as we all know, is money. Apple is then linked to your bank account, and therefore can also impose the country appstore - as you know each country as only his own appstore. It is another subject that show that major companies cuts the internet by regions for marketing purpose only... But as i said, it is another subject :-)

Because that's the way Apple decided to do it, that's why. Debating Apple policy is a violation of the Apple Support Communities Terms of Use.

Hi I don't have a credit card and I don't want to get me one. I just bought my daughter an Ipod mini and right now I would love to return it if it would not be for the happy face on my daughter. I guess Ill just do what most people probably do and lie regarding the age of my daughter and skip the family sharing part. Big dislike on Apple regarding this. Father.Iceland.man.IS

Perhaps an easy solution to this rediculous requirement is to simply change the birthdate of your child to an 18 year old version of themselves. It's a complete lie, but.....problem solved!  

Well that's odd... Neither I nor any other member of my family adult or minor could get a debit card without a photo I.D. Also odd because as per Apple you can use a debit card as a secondary form of I.D., the same as you can use a credit card, to purchase an iPhone. https://www.apple.com/retail/iphone/forms-of-id.html

Getting a Debit card is not the same as using a Debit card to legally sign an electronic document.

Here you go folks, straight out of the COPPA

"When operators want to disclose a child's personal information to third parties or make it publicly available (for example, through a chat room or message board), the sliding scale requires them to use a more reliable method of consent, including:

• getting a signed form from the parent via postal mail or facsimile;
• accepting and verifying a credit card number in connection with a transaction;
• taking calls from parents, through a toll-free telephone number staffed by trained personnel;
• email accompanied by digital signature;"

Now, while the information you're putting on the kids ID isn't necessarily publicly available, it IS likely going to be shared with third parties for marketing (their buying habits and what-not)

$200,000,000,000 cash sitting in Apple account from us morons, and they don't even let us use the crap!

Apple didn't write the law. Don't like it? Complain to your congressman. Then go buy something else. Don't be surprised when you find out they have to conform to the same laws Apple does.