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Q: Another bootcamp snafu after OSX update; please help.

Early 2014 27" iMac, i7, 3T Fusion Drive, 32G RAM, OSX & Win8.1

 

Problem: I updated OSX and after that I was unable to boot into Windows8.1x64 via BootCamp.  I am able to run my Windows installation via Parallels (10) and I can see the Bootcamp dialogue if I request it on startup. If I try to boot into Windows either from OSX or from Bootcamp I get the following message (paraphrased): Your PC needs to be repaired, Error code 0x000000e . Any command attempted / repair attempted whether from thumbdrive or HDD loopsback to the same message.  Only with a hard reboot can I return to OSX. Attempts to recover the entire drive from an Acronis 2014 sector-by-sector image created before the update fail.

 

My level of expertise is low.

 

I decided to post a question after reviewing the following excellent threads here:

Repairing Boot Camp after creating new partition

"No bootable device --- insert boot disk and press any key" after setting up Bootcamp

 

I believe I can follow them, but have not tried the solutions yet because I don't want to screw the machine up and the results of queries I make are a little different than their examples.

 

I include below the results of my queries beneath and thank anyone in advance for their help.

 

gpt show: disk0: mediasize=121332826112; sectorsize=512; blocks=236978176

gpt show: disk0: PMBR at sector 0

gpt show: disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1

gpt show: disk0: Sec GPT at sector 236978175

      start       size  index  contents

          0          1         PMBR

          1          1         Pri GPT header

          2         32         Pri GPT table

         34          6        

         40     409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

     409640  236306352      2  GPT part - 53746F72-6167-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

  236715992     262144      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

  236978136          7        

  236978143         32         Sec GPT table

  236978175          1         Sec GPT header


sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

Disk: /dev/disk0 geometry: 14751/255/63 [236978176 sectors]

Signature: 0xAA55

         Starting       Ending

#: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1: EE 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [         1 -  236978175] <Unknown ID>

2: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

3: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

4: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     


diskutil list

/dev/disk0

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *121.3 GB   disk0

   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

   2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         121.0 GB   disk0s2

   3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

/dev/disk1

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk1

   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

   2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         199.4 GB   disk1s2

   3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.1 MB   disk1s3

   4:       Microsoft Basic Data WinOS                 1.0 TB     disk1s4

   5:       Microsoft Basic Data WinStor                  997.7 GB   disk1s5

   6:          Apple_CoreStorage                         801.4 GB   disk1s6

   7:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk1s7

/dev/disk2

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD           *1.1 TB     disk2

                                 Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2, ...

                                 F782AFC6-0C98-43B2-B384-C1606DDEC7C3

                                 Unencrypted Fusion Drive

/dev/disk3

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *4.0 GB     disk3

   1:                 DOS_FAT_16 4G USB                  4.0 GB     disk3s1

/dev/disk4

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *31.6 GB    disk4

   1:             Windows_FAT_32 RECOVERY                31.6 GB    disk4s1

/dev/disk5

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *61.9 GB    disk5

   1:               Windows_NTFS 64G USB                 61.9 GB    disk5s1

/dev/disk6

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *123.6 GB   disk6

   1:             Windows_FAT_32 128G USB                123.6 GB   disk6s1

/dev/disk7

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *282.3 MB   disk7

   1:                  Apple_HFS Parallels Access        282.2 MB   disk7s1

/dev/disk9

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk9

   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk9s1

   2:                  Apple_HFS Time Machine Backups    3.0 TB     disk9s2

iMac

Posted on Sep 26, 2014 3:48 PM

by Loner T,Solvedanswer
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A:

The reason you see two Windows entries, is because of the following entries in the GPT...

 

  391114752  1955307520      4  GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7

  2346422272  1948538880      5  GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7


*4: 07 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [ 391114752 - 1955307520] HPFS/QNX/AUX


The current Windows-on-Mac leaves a lot to be desired. It uses a Hybrid MBR (there is a very succinct explanation here http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html ). The entries on the FDisk side show MBR, while the GPT commands show the GPT. If you notice, the start/size for GPT#4 and MBR#4 are identical.

 

To fix BCD issues, in W7 this is what is usually recommended - http://support2.microsoft.com/kb/927392

 

You may also want to look at http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/rebuild-bcd-store-windows.htm

 

F8 or Fn+F8 should let you bring up W8.1 repair. EasyBCD is PC-centric, but the FAQs are a good source of information.

Posted on Sep 29, 2014 1:22 AM

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  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 21, 2014 8:49 PM in response to Banango
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:49 PM in response to Banango

    Do you want OS X and W8.1, both on the SSD? If yes, the Windows size should be limited to half of the SSD.

  • by Banango,

    Banango Banango Oct 22, 2014 5:22 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 5:22 AM in response to Loner T

    Ideally yes. Keeping to half or less than half the SSD should be no problem. The HDD is not slow and the machine has 32G of RAM so executables can take advantage of that even if they are not resident on the SSD. This system is also backed by a fairly quick 50T NAS server, so space I. Itself is not a problem and I am happy to have applications on a different drive, especially is OSX will allow it.

     

    FIrst I need to know how to nuke the fusion drive and get all its storage back, and have something from which to install OSX.

     

    B

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 5:55 AM in response to Banango
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    Oct 22, 2014 5:55 AM in response to Banango

    What do you think of the following layout?

     

    1. Split SSD into half (60+60GB).

    2. Split HDD into half (1.5TB+1.5TB).

    3. SSD Part 1 + HDD Part 1 - OSX Fusion Drive.

    4. SSD Part 2 - W8.1 via EFI.

    5. HDD Part 2 - Windows NTFS (If ever in the future M$ is willing to come up with some variant of a "fusion", then SSDPart2+HDDPart2 can be combined).

    6. Install Yosemite on OSX Fusion Drive. Create a TM destination on the 50T NAS.

    7. Create a Windows backup destination (NTFS) on 50T NAS for Windows backups of OS

    8. Create a Windows backup destination (NTFS) on 50T NAS for HDD Part2.

  • by Banango,

    Banango Banango Oct 22, 2014 8:32 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 8:32 AM in response to Loner T

    Sounds very good. Don't worry about the backups and TM. I have a Time Capsule for the latter and use Acronis for multi-destination backups for Win81 and OSX.

     

    Right now something is a bit haywire and I don't even seem to be able to boot to anything aside from OS X Recovery. I don't think I can get at Terminal from there.  Anyway, let's give this a go by whatever means, please. 

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 8:59 AM in response to Banango
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    Oct 22, 2014 8:59 AM in response to Banango

    Reboot your Mac and hold Command+Opt+R (Internet Recovery) when connected to a wired internet connection. You should see a spinning globe.

     

    Please post the output of diskutil cs list and diskutil list (just to make sure we start with the latest state).

     

    In Internet Recovery, there is a built-in Safari that will allow you to post terminal output to this discussion.

  • by Banango,

    Banango Banango Oct 22, 2014 10:16 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 10:16 AM in response to Loner T

    I am back into OSX.  I did a Yosemite reinstall from Recovery (TM recovery failed) and hey presto in half an hour I was back in OSX with all its settings intact.  So here is the current state of affairs:

     

    CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)

    |

    +-- Logical Volume Group ECE90CFD-D898-44F1-918E-5D51C5E5E994

        =========================================================

        Name:         Macintosh HD

        Status:       Online

        Size:         921909379072 B (921.9 GB)

        Free Space:   40960 B (41.0 KB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume E6A205D7-8549-4835-9DCA-622EDBF26FD5

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    0

        |   Disk:     disk0s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     120988852224 B (121.0 GB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume 91A0707A-A79F-477F-ACC0-5699CA9BA58B

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    1

        |   Disk:     disk1s5

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     800920526848 B (800.9 GB)

        |

        +-> Logical Volume Family 3E21B386-F17F-4D47-BDAF-B372C76558A2

            ----------------------------------------------------------

            Encryption Status:       Unlocked

            Encryption Type:         None

            Conversion Status:       NoConversion

            Conversion Direction:    -none-

            Has Encrypted Extents:   No

            Fully Secure:            No

            Passphrase Required:     No

            |

            +-> Logical Volume 14DEDD53-880F-473C-A694-54549BCAF611

                ---------------------------------------------------

                Disk:                  disk2

                Status:                Online

                Size (Total):          916054081536 B (916.1 GB)

                Conversion Progress:   -none-

                Revertible:            No

                LV Name:               Macintosh HD

                Volume Name:           Macintosh HD

                Content Hint:          Apple_HFS


    /dev/disk0

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *121.3 GB   disk0

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         121.0 GB   disk0s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

    /dev/disk1

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk1

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

       2: FFFFFFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF               1.2 TB     disk1s2

       3:                  Apple_HFS Recovery HD             650.1 MB   disk1s3

       4:                  Apple_HFS Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk1s4

       5:          Apple_CoreStorage                         800.9 GB   disk1s5

       6:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.1 MB   disk1s6

    /dev/disk2

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD           *916.1 GB   disk2

                                     Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s5

                                     14DEDD53-880F-473C-A694-54549BCAF611

                                     Unencrypted Fusion Drive

     

    And note (below) that for whatever reason there is now a whacking great FreeSpace area....but there's also an even bigger inaccessible area of the HDD.

     

    2014-10-22_13-14-24.png

     

    B

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 10:38 AM in response to Banango
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    Oct 22, 2014 10:38 AM in response to Banango

    The entire SSD is in your CS volume.  We need to start all over again.

     

    1. Boot using Command+Opt+R.

    2. Destroy all CS volumes/LVGs till you see two bare disks, SSD and HDD.

    3. Partition SSD into two halves using disk utility and "ignore" when DU wants to fix anything. The Windows partition should be configured as Free Space for W8.1 installation.

    4. Partition the HDD into two parts using disk utility and "ignore" when DU wants to fix anything.

    5. Create a CS LVG using diskutil cs create and using disk0s2 and disk1s2, leaving disk1s3 for Windows non-OS files.

    6. Create a CS LV "Macintosh HD" on CS LVG from step 5.

    7. Install Yosemite on "Macintosh HD". Validate OSX. Use Migration Assistant, if you want to restore from a TM backup.

    8. Install W8.1 on SSD Part 2 using EFI boot and Bootcamp Assistant created USB+ISO. Use Alt key to choose EFI Boot, otherwise W8.1 will not install correctly.

  • by Banango,

    Banango Banango Oct 22, 2014 6:22 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 6:22 PM in response to Loner T

    How do I destroy the CS volumes? I got into terminal within the recovery disk, but no command i use seems to delete anything, no matter which command I use (delete, erasevolume, etc) I get messages saying I am using the wrong command, that I need to specify formats, and so forth. Point me at a basic lesson because Google isn't helping me so far.  Thanks again.

     

    B

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 6:39 PM in response to Banango
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    Oct 22, 2014 6:39 PM in response to Banango

    You need to use Internet Recovery (Command+Opt+R) not Recovery HD (Command+R). Recovery HD is on your local disk.

     

    Using what you have posted, once in Internet Recovery...

     

    1. Delete volume Macintosh HD - diskutil cs deleteVolume 14DEDD53-880F-473C-A694-54549BCAF611

    2. Delete  volume group - diskutil cs delete ECE90CFD-D898-44F1-918E-5D51C5E5E994

    3. This show you each bare disk, the SSD and HDD.

    4. Use Disk Utility, and "Ignore" if it wants to "Fix" anything and partition the SSD into two, SSD1 (formatted as Mac OS X Extended Journaled) and SSD2 (this should be Free Space format not Mac OSX Extended Journaled).

    5. Repeat step 4 for the HDD. HDD1 is FAT32 (it should begin at 0 and cannot be larger than 2TB) and HDD2 is Mac OSX Extended Journaled.

    6. Post the output of diskutil list.

    7. Using data from Step 6, new CS volume for OSX (SSD1+HDD2) and WindowsStor (HDD1) can be created.

    8. Install Yosemite on the new CS volume.

    8. Install W8.1 on SSD2 (Free Space) using EFI Boot using USB created by BA.

    9. Convert HDD1 from FAT32 to NTFS when in Windows.

    10. Verify OSX and Windows switching and access to HDD2 NTFS read-write.

  • by Banango,

    Banango Banango Oct 22, 2014 7:25 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 7:25 PM in response to Loner T

    Step 5: MS-DOS (FAT) or ExFAT or FREESPACE?  Those are my non-OSX options.

     

    THanks.

     

    B

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 7:31 PM in response to Banango
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    Oct 22, 2014 7:31 PM in response to Banango

    Since the W8.1 installation will be on SSD Part2, this should be MS-DOS(FAT) which is FAT32. It will be later converted to NTFS anyway in Step 9.

  • by Banango,

    Banango Banango Oct 22, 2014 7:44 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 7:44 PM in response to Loner T

    sorry about this, working from iPad. Not sure the SSD partition is right. Diskutil keeps doing what the second image shows when I partition SSD into 2 as you instructed. 

    #image.jpg

    image.jpg

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 8:00 PM in response to Banango
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    Oct 22, 2014 8:00 PM in response to Banango

    May I suggest using Safari available in the Internet Recovery console to post the information? Just a bit easier even though you will have to close terminal and paste it and go back to terminal.

  • by Banango,

    Banango Banango Oct 22, 2014 8:07 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 8:07 PM in response to Loner T

    I Tried that. IOS8 has made using this forum difficult. Using Safari I get asked for keychain password. I cannot supply one that satisfies. If I try to cancel I get endless pinwheel. Hence use of iPad. 

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 8:15 PM in response to Banango
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    Oct 22, 2014 8:15 PM in response to Banango

    The DU picture looks correct. Free Space will not show as a disk, till you install W8.1. It is all right. Proceed further.

     

    I was referring to using Safari on your Mac Recovery, not the iPad Safari. As a test, if you quit OSX Terminal, there should be a Safari icon with get help online or something similar.

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