"the songs in this playlist will not fit" - only 63 minutes in playlist????

I'm trying to burn a 63 minute playlist onto an 80 minute CD.

I do this many, many times a week.

However, with this playlist [16 tunes ripped off CD and one purchased track from iTunes - never burnt to CD before] I get the "the songs in this playlist will not fit" error message.

If I remove a song from the playlist, I get the same error message.

iTunes is burning other / longer playlists just fine.

Any tips, please?

Thank you for your time!

MackBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.7), iTunes 7.0

Posted on Sep 22, 2006 9:53 AM

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Sep 22, 2006 8:28 PM in response to waltonic

You cannot mix file formats unless you are burning a Data CD/DVD. What type of CD are you trying to burn - mp3 or audio?

To burn the iTS purchase in an mp3 format you will first need to burn it to an audio CD to strip out the DRM then re-rip that tune back in as an mp3/mp4 (depends on your settings). If burning to a mp3 then all the tracks must be mp3. An iTS purchase is a m4p format.

MJ

Sep 23, 2006 3:42 AM in response to Mike Johnson12

You cannot mix file formats unless you are burning a
Data CD/DVD. What type of CD are you trying to burn -
mp3 or audio?


Audio. Hence 'duration' as opposed to 'data capacity'.


To burn the iTS purchase in an mp3 format you will
first need to burn it to an audio CD to strip out the
DRM then re-rip that tune back in as an mp3/mp4
(depends on your settings). If burning to a mp3 then
all the tracks must be mp3. An iTS purchase is a m4p
format.

MJ


Thanks for the information, MJ; but I know the above and it's not relevant to this problem.

I'm burning an audio CD. This particular playlist [63 minutes] will not burn, giving the error message in the subject line. All other playlists burn fine. If I strip out the songs from the playlist, one by one, trying to burn the playlist after each removal, it still will not burn!.

It makes no sense.

Sep 24, 2006 12:59 PM in response to Kilplane

** Consistency of formats for song files should not, and historically hasn't been a problem. DO NOT CONVERT ALL YOUR MUSIC TO AAC -- you will just loose sound quality in the conversion!!!!!!!!!!!! Any file format inter-conversion is "lossy" (barring going between two lossless formats, but that's not what we're talking about here...)

I came to the board today because two of several playlists I'm interested in burning are not, and I'm getting the same message. The other playlists on the same computer burnt fine. All tracks are mpeg audio (mp3). Tried different media, even creating new playlists w/ same tracks. No purchased material on playlists.

Sep 24, 2006 4:27 PM in response to Marklar

One other thought...when burning an AUDIO CD, the large bit rate referred to above should have no effect on this situation...it is converted to an AIFF file. A larger bit rate means the conversion will have more data to choose from, but the song should end up being the same length of time regardless of the bit rate, which will only affect quality.

Oct 17, 2006 11:55 AM in response to Mike Johnson12

Yes it will have a larger amount of data but it is
also a larger file.

Figure that 1 minute of 128bit rate is equal to about
1 meg - 1 minute at the 1411 (audio) bit rate is
about 10 meg.

So - 70 meg of mp3 is about 700 meg of audio (AIFF)
format.

MJ


Well, that would only be true if you were burning a DATA or an MP3 disk. All audio files are converted to CDA format (not AIFF) before burning to 16bit PCM @ 44.1KHZ sampling rate. This is an absolute, or they will not play in an audio CD player.

By the way, the reason that some people get a bit confused by the "700mb data or 80minutes of Audio" has a lot to do with how the disks are written:
Audio sectors use 2352 bytes per sector, while standard CD-ROM data uses 2048 (the rest is for error correction). You can put roughly 747MB of audio onto a disc that only holds 650MB of data (74 Min disk), or 804Mb on a 700Mb disk, hence the 80minutes @ 10meg per minute. The number of tracks (and hence track gaps @ 2sec each) will have a minor effect on total music playing time.

There IS, however, something seriously askew with iTunes and the interface to burning any kind of disk. I have seen the same problem a few times and most of the time, renaming the playlist (for whatever reason) has solved the problem. It has been well documented on this board that itunes cannot record at high speeds any longer, and my 100% success rate speed is a mere 2x on both CD's and DVD's.

I have also seen the capacity issue show up OUTSIDE of iTunes using FlashDrives. While the OS doesn't have a problem reading data from the drives, nor does it have difficulty in acertaining the capacity of the drives, it will not write anywhere close to the capacity of the drive. Currrently affecting all 3 systems here.


iMac G5, Mac Mini, Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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