Nuendo or Logic

Hey I thinkI already know the answer to this question but here it goes. Which one is more stable and better for audio mixes? Of course I am talking about on a Mac!

Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8, RME FF800, Logic Pro 7.01, Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Posted on Sep 22, 2006 2:38 PM

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Sep 22, 2006 3:45 PM in response to Steven Wood2

Well I have never used Nuendo on a MAC before but I have used both Nuendo and Cubase for many years on a PC. I have just switched to Logic 7 on my new iMac and I must say I find logic 7 extremely stable, not one crash yet.

From my experiences and involvement in Nuendo and Cubase there is no way I could recommend ANYBODY to use them PC or MAC, but if it's for MAC then definitely Logic I would say.

Thanks

Sep 22, 2006 4:30 PM in response to pawelm

Well, you're asking a bunch of Logic users - what do you think would be the recommendation...?! 😉

Listen, there are a million DAW comparison threads on every audio forum across the net, so for some quick opinion surveys, I'd advise you to do a little bit of research. They are a fairly big investment so I think you'll find it time well spent.

You don't state anything about your personal tastes, work habits, preferences and requirements, so any recommendations are going to be effectively useless - what works for person A might not be a good solution for you at all.

The bottom line is, they are both capable apps and you will be able to get good work done in either.

Sep 22, 2006 4:38 PM in response to Steven Wood2

here's how I would answer this.....and it's just an observation......that's all....

How many times do you see pictures of studio setups with nuendo? Cubase would be just a bit more....

but now, think about how many times logic is used!

Of course that isn't as much as PTOOLS......but still the "buzz" will include logic or even sonar before you hear about nuendo.

So, that being said, when you consider the price point, what one will do vs. the other it seems that logic holds more water.....

However, I do remember that nuendos audio engine was 20-40% better...(ducks, runs......laughing.........hoping someone will get it......)

Sep 23, 2006 4:02 AM in response to Steven Wood2

IMO Nuendo is an excellent program and a lot better than Logic in some places (PDC,VST pluggins, Cross-platform, sample precision in arrange are the ones that came to my mind right now). But it happens that I´m more comfortable with Logic and I feel it´s more "musical". nuendo (and PT also) is more "technical" in the way of working. The stability has a lot to do on how you set your machine, wich is crucial on PCs. I use Logic since Notator on Atari, so when I tried the switch I had a lot to change in my mind and had to leave aside many pluggins and sample libraries , etc... so I decided to buy a Mac and upgrade to L7. Honestly I don´t regret the Mac part, but also I feel Logic is not what it used to be regarding updates for example and the contact between the users and Emagic staff.
To be short: If you´re a musician I´d choose Logic. If you´re an enginer I´d choose Nuendo. Also don´t forget to take a look at Samplitude and SAW. Both incredible programs.

Sep 23, 2006 8:01 PM in response to Steven Wood2

Hey I thinkI already know the answer to this question
but here it goes. Which one is more stable and
better for audio mixes? Of course I am talking about
on a Mac!


It's not the equipment...it's the person using it...talent does not care what it uses to express itself.

Any equipment when properly set up can be stable,and there are many ways to mix,inside and outside the box(ie computer).

Here are a few examples of recent albums and what was used:

Alan Parsons - "A Valid Path" used Nuendo almost exclusively
Depeche Mode - "Playing The Angel" used ProToolsHD
Depeche Mode - "Exciter" used Logic Platinum 4.8.1,and ProTools mix24
Yes - "Magnification" - used 2" tape and ProTools mix24
Mark Knopfler - "Shangri-La" Used 2" tape and Nuendo

Please listen to these and then realise that each artist and each person involved made these albums sound the way they do,NOT because of the gear,but because of their experience.That experience overshadows any equipment shortcomings or abundances.

I worked on the middle three,and I have met Alan Parsons,as well as Mark Knopfler's engineer,Chuck Ainlay.

Cheers,
www.nicksevilla.com

Sep 23, 2006 10:32 PM in response to frequent popsicle

Hi guys.
Well, my opinion is that (and with this i agree with some of you) there is only one last word that count on choosing an audio software, your own.
i mean, the only best way to choose is to try as many softwares as possible and see which one you like the most.
thus far i used Sonar, Acid, Cubase, Nuendo (which is basically Cubase) ProTools and Logic.
Guess what..? Logic is shaped and emproved on Macs.
not only that, let's talk about Ensemble for a second.. that is a wonderful machine -again- built right on Logic and (of course) Macs.
BUT i have to say that even more pro-studios and producers that i know are using both Logic and ProTools.
ProTools because is "a standard" (i hate to say that but is true) and because it's (afterall) a good DAW, and Logic because is very powerfull and very above on everything midi (and ProTools is not).
..SO, that's the moral.. check them all (if you can) keep YOURSELF up-dated (study and learn, study and learn, study and learn), save your money if the budget is a problem and once you find the one you fell more comfortable with.. that's the one!

P.S. ok, if you really have no choices other than Logic or Nuendo.. i'd go for Logic and forget the rest.

Nook

Oct 23, 2006 5:30 AM in response to Steven Wood2

I know this video below is geared toward Euphonix's control surface integration into Nuendo, but it also shows a good amount of information for Nuendo itself and some it's capabilities.

http://www.euphonix.com/video/system5-mc_mcprofiles/index.htm
Goto the Steve Tusha video.

If anything, it's an interesting video for the Euphonix System 5 control surface, which would be really nice to own. =)

Also think about what you are going to be mixing. I have just gotten into recording classical pieces and from a few people I have talked with, they prefer Pyramix for editing and mixing because of its subtle and easy editing capabilities that are considered better for classical recordings. So think about that WHAT you are going to be mixing. I wouldn't know how to classify Logic or Pro Tools as what they are aimed for, probably overall anything mixing, but I wanted to throw out Pyramix as an option too.

~trevor

Oct 23, 2006 6:04 AM in response to Steven Wood2

I used to work with Nuendo and it is a good program, but it is not as "customizable" as Logic Pro. Logic not only gives you the option to customize it according to your workflow, but it also includes plug-ins that are just awesome. Sculpture alone should be a $399.00 plug-in, not to mention all the other synths, and effects plug-ins. This makes Logic a wiser decision when selecting a DAW. It's flexibility when working with audio and midi is just awesome. It lets you think about your music instead of getting technical.

P.S. The fact that Apple makes it, makes it a more stable system.

Oct 27, 2006 9:07 PM in response to gpiccolini

To be short: If you´re a musician I´d choose Logic.
If you´re an enginer I´d choose Nuendo.


I feel the same.
I use Logic since old notator days and it´s the best composition/midi program.
But Nuendo It´s much better and powerful to use ( I know how to use Logic for audio recording and edotong of course) on Audio and editing arena. maybe on new version we can see a better audio performance and easy of use on Logic.



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