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2.5 Inch Hard Drive - New Hitachi High Speed Experience and Questions

I recently purchased a new Hitachi 500GB drive to replace an old drive in a 2009 mid year MacBook. I’m impressed with the seemingly incredible performance of the drive, but have some questions.


The original drive was OEM and it was a Fujitsu MHZ2160BH FFS G1 which was a 160GB drive that came with the system. Recently I started getting slow-downs with it so I used Scannerz to perform a drive test on it. Scannerz found a few, not many, bad blocks and a bunch of weak sectors surrounding them. Their manual include some instructions to use Disk Utility to reformat and zero the drive which may or may not fix the problems. This drive is already five years old, so I just figured why waste time on trying to repair something that’s really old enough it might be on its way out anyway.


I considered replacing it with an SSD but the prices for comparable or bigger drives really can’t be warranted on a MacBook this old because they really aren’t worth that much any more - you can get them on eBay in good condition for about $200 or less. The system, however, still works fine. Only the drive is having problems and that’s after five years.


I did some searching and found an Hitachi HGST HTS725050A7E630 on sale locally for just over $50. Its a 500GB HD SATA 7200 RPM drive. I included a bunch of links for stuff mentioned here at the bottom of this post. You can see the specs there.


In any case, I wanted to make sure the new drive was OK so I installed it and started a scan on it using Scannerz. I figured this would take hours to run so I started the scan, left for a few minutes while I got soda, and thought I’d make one last check before leaving it alone to do the test on the drive. I figured when I got back Scannerz would have gone through about 4 or 5 GB, but instead it was at about 12 GB. I thought something was wrong.


I started a retest and the drive was hauling like I’d never seen an actual hard drive move before. I thought maybe the big cache was fooling Scannerz, so I got a copy Black Magic Disk Speed Test and was really, really surprised to see how fast this thing is. Scannerz tests for errors and other problems, so it doesn’t report speed data directly.


I expected to see a performance improvement, but I expected the improvement be caused by the rotational speed of the drive. The old Fujitsu drive ran at 5400 RPM and the new Hitachi runs at 7200. I expected the improvement to be on the order of 7200/5400.


What I did was a set of tests on both the old Fujitsu and the new Hitachi. I also used an old program named Xbench to get some results. It’s quite old but if you use only the disk testing mode it still works. In any case, here’s what I got results wise:


NEW HITACHI:


Time to do 0-10 GB scan using Scannerz: 1 min 13.93 sec (73.93 sec)

Black Magic Disk Speed Test Write speed: 116.1 MB/sec

Black Magic Disk Speed Test Read speed: 120.8 MB/sec

Xbench Uncached Write (256K blocks): 117.29 MB/sec

Xbench Uncached Read (256K blocks): 96.86 MB/sec


OLD FUJITSU:


Time to do 0-10 GB scan using Scannerz: 2 min 39.65 sec (159.65 sec)

Black Magic Disk Speed Test Write speed: 47.5MB/sec

Black Magic Disk Speed Test Read speed: 46.6 MB/sec

Xbench Uncached Write (256K blocks): 37.44 MB/sec

Xbench Uncached Read (256K blocks): 44.67 MB/sec


These obviously aren’t SSD speeds, but considering the price and the fact I now have a 500GB new drive, the speed difference is impressive. The tests aren’t averages, they’re just one shots to see how big the difference was. I suppose if I wanted to do a real test I’d take lots of measurements and do averages, but the differences are obvious and far exceed the 7200/5400 ratio I thought I’d see.


Some other notes:


1. The Hitachi is incredibly thin. DO NOT PUSH ON IT’S CASE AT ALL! I had a friend that did that and he ruined the drive. You’re not supposed to do that anyway, but in this case it absolutely has to be taken seriously. Handle it only by the edges.


2. The Hitachi drive has an “AF” label on it indicating it’s using 4K sectors natively but emulating 512 byte sectors. At least that’s what I think it means. I’m not sure if this is why the performance difference is so high.


3. Some people have questioned whether or not the 7200 RPM drives would cause heating and fans coming on in some posts. From my experience with this disk, the answer is a definite “no.” In fact I’d say fans on the system come on less.


4. If you look for one of these, make sure you get the right model number. Hitachi was making an earlier version with an 8 MB buffer instead of a 32MB buffer like this one has. I have no idea how that drive performs compared to this one. I assume this is Hitachi’s latest and greatest.


What I would like to know is why the speed difference? In use this thing is surprising fast. Obviously not as fast as an SSD but for 50 bucks and 500GB of storage I can’t complain. Is it because of the advanced format or is there some other technology at play?


Any comments are welcome, particularly those that may tell me whether we can see HDs continue to get even faster.


Links:


New Hitachi HD specs:http://www.hgst.com/hard-drives/mobile-drives/7mm-thin-and-light-drives/travelst ar-z7k500

Specs for old Fujitsu: http://vb.net/products/FUJITSU/fujMHZfam_ds.pdf

Scannerz: http://scsc-online.com/Scannerz.html

Black Magic Speed Test: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blackmagic-disk-speed-test/id425264550?mt=12

Xbench: http://www.xbench.com


Xbench seems to have been sort of abandoned since Tiger but if you uncheck all the options except the drive testing option it can still report.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5)

Posted on Sep 29, 2014 2:33 AM

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Nov 1, 2014 2:56 PM in response to HuntsMan75

HuntsMan75 wrote:


We could all sit around here second guessing HD makers all day. For example, why not put a little battery on the HD to keep the cache RAM data active when powered off along with a big cache, then you would probably have a boot speed that makes an SSD look slow.

Unless you spend your days rebooting that's of little value. Fast seek and fast transfers are what matters, SSD's rule that area. Reliability is as yet not so clear, SSD's have not been around long enough. But HDD's are not reliable long term (or even short term) storage devices, so the bar is low.

Nov 1, 2014 4:28 PM in response to Csound1

I guess it depends on how you define reliable. In my original post the Fujitsu had been in the system for 5 years, and it's problems weren't that severe. I didn't lose all the data on the unit. Most of the drives I've had didn't get replaced because of failure, they got replaced because of me needing more space.


Space and cost are issues with SSDs for someone that's on a budget. If I turned my system on one day and found the drive was now completely erased, I'd be a little ticked off.

Nov 2, 2014 1:26 AM in response to Fred1956

Fred1956 wrote:


I guess it depends on how you define reliable. In my original post the Fujitsu had been in the system for 5 years, and it's problems weren't that severe.

That's about average, 5 years is longer than I would trust a mechanical drive but as you say, they're usually full by then.


Fred1956 wrote:


I didn't lose all the data on the unit.

You should keep backups, there is never any reason to lose any data other than lack of preparation, it is entirely user error when you do.

Nov 8, 2014 12:34 PM in response to Fred1956

SSDs can just drop blocks, just like an HD can lose a sector. I've seen more and more posts about stuff like that on the web. I suppose it's because more and more SSDs are being put into use. If the block drops while it actively holds a file the file is gone. The only way to correct it is to fool the controller into overwriting the block, which often means re-initializing the drive and then restoring it.


HDs aren't going to die off any time soon, IMHO.

Nov 10, 2014 12:07 PM in response to Fred1956

I don't think they've been around long enough for any significant data to be compiled, plus the fact that they seem to be changing constantly. For example a few years ago some of the earliest SSDs had no trim, GC, etc. and you could see people getting on the web and posting videos showing the SSD running the system like it was being run from a CD - extremely slow. That was just a few years ago. Now they're streamlined they're using better chips, etc.etc.etc.


The point being, about the time they get around to gathering statistics on a certain type of failure, the units may already be obsolete.

Nov 15, 2014 11:17 AM in response to Fred1956

This SSD stuff is confusing. Look at the following link, and it's only a year old:



http://www.anandtech.com/show/6727/apple-is-using-sandisk-ssds-in-retina-macbook -pro-as-well


I really don't see Intel mentioned but I could have sworn that somewhere I read about them being used. Did Apple ever use Intel SSDs? If I'd opt to go with an SSD it would be kind of nice to know which SSD Apple is using because I assume the OS would have full support and you wouldn't need to fool around with third party drivers.

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