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DHCP/NAT to wired clients not working.

Yesterday my wired clients lost their DHCP assignments from my AirPort Extreme (802.11ac) router and I can't figure out why that happened. This includes recent model iMac, a TiVo Roamio, an HP laser printer and a Drobo 5N. All of them have DHCP reservations by MAC address. All of them are connected with known good cables. All my wireless clients are fetching IPs via DHCP just fine, it's just the wired ones. In addition I have a second AirPort Extreme to extend the network. The wired clients connected to that one are working just fine.


I tried swapping the two AirPort Extreme routers to see if it was a hardware failure, but both exhibited the same problem when I restored my saved settings. I'm just wondering what's causing it now when I've been running the same basic router configuration for years, going back multiple versions of AirPort Extreme router hardware.


If I had to guess, I'd assume there is some kind of DHCPv6 weirdness affecting the physical LAN ports.


Has anybody encountered a similar problem and know a solution?

Airport Extreme 802.11ac, OS X Mavericks (10.9.5)

Posted on Oct 8, 2014 1:00 AM

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Oct 25, 2014 6:52 AM in response to Eugene Chan2

Eugene Chan2 wrote:


The RV130 functions as a DHCP server for the 4 ethernet clients, one of which is an AEBS. Reservations are handled by the RV130 as well. Then the AEBS also acts as a DHCP server for any wireless client and the wired clients connected to my AEBS acting as an extender. Reservations for all those clients are done by the first AEBS.


You have two DHCP servers in your network. Unless the IP ranges are carefully managed, this is a fragile setup.

Oct 25, 2014 1:53 PM in response to Loner T

Yes, I have the RV130 using 10.0.1.2-.10.0.1.99, and the AEBS using 10.0.1.100-10.0.1.199. Also the two AEBS are statically assigned 10.0.1.200 and 10.0.1.201. I see no way around this because in bridge-mode (off) the AEBS was not passing through DHCP leases from the RV130. It seems like there is a VLAN isolation issue on the AEBS in certain configurations. the more I deal with this, the more I believe it is plainly a firmware issue.

Oct 25, 2014 2:24 PM in response to Eugene Chan2

It is an interesting setup. Let us say Mac M1 (using ethernet only, otherwise there are permutations with en0 and en1) connects to the AEBSes and gets an IP of 10.0.1.115. It goes through mDNS registration. This is in DNS now. It disconnects and "roams" to the RV and gets an IP of 10.0.1.15. The clients on 10.0.1.100-199 should be able to see it as 10.0.1.15 (not .115). ARP should get updated across the two networks. You may run into some timing issues. I am not sure how AirPlay will behave in such mobility scenarios, for example.

Jul 16, 2015 7:47 PM in response to Eugene Chan2

My AC AirPort Extreme is handing out addresses via dhcp to all my wireless clients (iPhone, iPad, Xbox one, b&w a7, hp printer, etc) but all of my wired clients are not getting an address. I have tried factory resets, configuration changes, static ips, and a litany of power cycles. This happened about a week ago and it took 15 min of everything powered off before my wired clients were able to connect again. I had the same issue with the previous AirPort Extreme N. If this is the quality of Apple's routers, then I am through pouring money into buying another.


What is the fix for this? This is the second

Jul 16, 2015 8:11 PM in response to Loner T

For clarification. The AE is plugged into my surfboard cable modem directly. The AE is plugged Ito a dumb switch and there is 1 wired client directly connected. All wired clients are unable to get an IP. My previous airport express had the same issue About a year ago. So I upgraded to the new extreme. I'm not buying another Apple router after this.

Jul 16, 2015 8:38 PM in response to AK_Dave

Do you have a port-mirror switch which you can put between the AE and wired clients and run wireshark and monitor DHCP requests for wired clients? This will help verify if the AE actually receives any requests or not.


If AE can distribute IPs to wireless clients that it can directly see, but cannot see any wired clients due to topology differences, it is unlikely an issue with the AE.

Jul 17, 2015 5:17 AM in response to AK_Dave

Adding to https://discussions.apple.com/profile/LaPastenague is saying,


1. If your ISP provides an ethernet connection instead of a MoCA connection, you can remove the SurfBoard.

2. Modern OSes (W8+/Yosemite) wil indicate IP issues because they cannot connect to the Internet (for example a DNS or NTP server).

3. What is the exact model of the Motorola SurfBoard?

DHCP/NAT to wired clients not working.

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