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Q: Boot camp: "The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partition"

Hey guys,

Would really appreciate some help on this!

I used to successfully use bootcamp and have an extra partition so i could use Windows aswell, until my HD crashed and i had to take it to the Apple Hospital. When i got the computer back and restored my old backup Time Machine clone, i couldn't create a new partition for Windows. It doesn't let me get passed the first screen.

 

What happens is: I load up Boot Camp as usual, push Continue passed the Introduction screen, then i get a msg pop up that says:


The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partition.

The startup disk must be formatted as a single Mac OS Extended (Journaled) volume or already partitioned by Boot Camp Assistant for installing Windows.


Then i push Ok and it goes back to the BootCamp introduction screen. I.e. i can't get passed this msg.

I looked in Disk Utility and of course my internal HD already is Mac OS Extended (Journaled) so i have no idea why it isn't being recognised as one partition.

 

What do i have to do to be able to install windows on this computer without having to format my entire Mac and installing everything again? I really need the exact clone of what i have right now. I do have an external HD for making backup clones using Time Machine though.

 

Some specs:

- Boot Camp Assistant version is 3.0.1

- Mac OSX 10.6.2 (yeah i guess i'm old school now)

- 2.66 GHz Intel Core i5, 4 GB RAM

- I have no other partitions currently, just my current mac one

 

Any questions just ask. I would love to resolve this tonight.


iMac (27-inch Late 2009), iOS 6.1.2

Posted on Oct 8, 2014 4:05 AM

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Q: Boot camp: "The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partition"

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  • by Barncore,

    Barncore Barncore Oct 11, 2014 8:52 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 11, 2014 8:52 AM in response to Csound1
    The manual would have told you how to format the partition as NTFS, something that the 'actual human being' advice signally failed to do. Not a very positive affirmation of the 'actual human being' approach really.

    I wouldn't have even got to that point if it weren't for an actual human. There were many hurdles to jump through before i could even get to the Windows installation phase.

    How would i have known how to get passed this initial problem without a human?

    The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partition.

    The startup disk must be formatted as a single Mac OS Extended (Journaled) volume or already partitioned by Boot Camp Assistant for installing Windows.

    I didn't even know what "formatted" meant!

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 11, 2014 8:51 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 11, 2014 8:51 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    The manual would have told you how to format the partition as NTFS, something that the 'actual human being' advice signally failed to do. Not a very positive affirmation of the 'actual human being' approach really.

     

    And now I'm done, your installation works and although I totally disagree with the 'roll your own' approach it did, eventually, work.

    Yet, you chose to participate in a discussion which was "roll your own", by your semantics. . And you are criticizing using Apple-documented utilities to address issues.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 11, 2014 8:54 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 11, 2014 8:54 AM in response to Loner T

    Disk Utility is not recommended by Apple for use in a Boot Camp environment. BC partitions must be created and removed using Boot Camp only. I find your directions incomplete (for the procedure you describe) and far from a supported method. They also require an absurdly long time to complete.

     

    There is no need to post further Apple documentation, I have read it and it says the same thing that I said in the early posts.

     

    You and I will just have to disagree.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 11, 2014 8:55 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 11, 2014 8:55 AM in response to Loner T

    Whenever I see instructions posted that lack essential steps I will take an interest.

  • by Barncore,

    Barncore Barncore Oct 11, 2014 8:57 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 11, 2014 8:57 AM in response to Csound1
    They also require an absurdly long time to complete.

    I don't see how that's a problem to do with our troubleshooting method. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Backing up and restoring hard drives takes a long time, mate. Maybe blame technology..? Or life in general?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 11, 2014 9:02 AM in response to Barncore
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    Oct 11, 2014 9:02 AM in response to Barncore

    Exacerbated by the missing steps.

     

    Please use whatever method you wish, if this was a satisfactory experience for you that's fine. I will continue to use the method suggested and supported by Apple, in my experience it is far faster and more reliable.

     

    This thread however is an excellent example of the results of 'alternate paths and has been bookmarked for use as a cautionary tale. It will be useful.

     

    Thanks.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 11, 2014 9:06 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 11, 2014 9:06 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Disk Utility is not recommended by Apple for use in a Boot Camp environment.

     

    • If a dialog appears saying “The disk cannot be partitioned because verification failed,” try repairing the disk using Disk Utility and opening Boot Camp Assistant again. If that doesn’t work, back up all the information on your Mac, then reinstall OS X. For more information, click the Finder icon in the Dock, choose Help > Help Center, and search for “reinstall OS X.”

    BC partitions must be created and removed using Boot Camp only.

    OP did use BA to partition his drive.

     

    I find your directions incomplete (for the procedure you describe) and far from a supported method.

    Yet, the OP did follow them and has a running Windows installation.

     

    They also require an absurdly long time to complete.

    Yes, TM restore depends on volume of data.

     

     

    There is no need to post further Apple documentation, I have read it and it says the same thing that I said in the early posts.

    Can you post an Apple link for disk drive fragmentation/defragmentation?

     

    You and I will just have to disagree.

    Yes, we can disagree.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 11, 2014 9:07 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 11, 2014 9:07 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Exacerbated by the missing steps.

    Please document all missing steps, for future reference.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 11, 2014 9:10 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 11, 2014 9:10 AM in response to Loner T

    The need to format the partition as NTFS, and the method.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 11, 2014 9:21 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 11, 2014 9:21 AM in response to Loner T

    Loner T wrote:

     

    Can you post an Apple link for disk drive fragmentation/defragmentation?

    Sure, here's what Apple suggest to defragment the drive for a Boot Camp partition, it's the same thing I suggested many pages ago. It's also the method that (after 3 days of blind alleys) finally worked.

     

    Screen Shot 2014-10-11 at 17.18.06.png

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 11, 2014 11:59 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 11, 2014 11:59 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    The need to format the partition as NTFS, and the method.

     

    My first post has Disk Partitioning analysis...

     

    Barncore-Bootcamp-Disk-Analysis.png

     

     

    My second post on the thread already has a reference to the appropriate Bootcamp manual, which you chose to ignore. It has the NTFS formatting instructions included in it.

     

    Barncore-Bootcamp-Reference.png

    The disk steps are also clearly documented. If you choose not to read them, I wonder where the comprehension failure is?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 11, 2014 12:17 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 11, 2014 12:17 PM in response to Loner T

    This will be the last time.

     

    I recommend following the Boot Camp directions, solely and exclusively. I am unlikely to change that position.

     

    I'll also note that it was your instructions the OP followed. They resulted in a wrongly formatted partition (FAT rather than NTFS) so I question the methodology as well.

     

    Just leave it 'we disagree' this thread is way too long already.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 11, 2014 12:47 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 11, 2014 12:47 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    I recommend following the Boot Camp directions, solely and exclusively. I am unlikely to change that position.

    You can choose whatever you wish.

     

     

    I'll also note that it was your instructions the OP followed. They resulted in a wrongly formatted partition (FAT rather than NTFS) so I question the methodology as well.

    Without even reading the thread properly, you make an uneducated comment. Very strange. The partitioning is done in step 3. There is not FAT partition involved anywhere except to possibly test if the disk will even allow to be partitioned.

    Barncore-BA-Partitioning.png

     

     

    Just leave it 'we disagree' this thread is way too long already.

    Certainly.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 11, 2014 1:11 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 11, 2014 1:11 PM in response to Loner T

    Loner T wrote:

     

     

    I'll also note that it was your instructions the OP followed. They resulted in a wrongly formatted partition (FAT rather than NTFS) so I question the methodology as well.

    Without even reading the thread properly, you make an uneducated comment. Very strange. The partitioning is done in step 3. There is not FAT partition involved anywhere except to possibly test if the disk will even allow to be partitioned.

     

     

    So after a little bit of messing around i re-formatted my HD, restored via TM, ran boot camp, and fiiiiinally successfully created a new partition for windows. But in typical nature, the universe decided to give me yet another hurdle to jump through: I began the windows setup process (i.e. i could successfully boot from windows CD), but couldn't get to install it, because when it came time to choose the partition, i get this error when i select the BOOTCAMP partition:

    Windows cannot be installed to this hard disk space. Windows must be installed to a partition formatted as NTFS.

     

    So I must have imagined this I guess.

     

    What exactly is your object here, I find your instructions complex, confusing and incomplete. That problem (above) was the result of them. And now as I know you disagree I'll leave it there.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 11, 2014 1:31 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 11, 2014 1:31 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Loner T wrote:

     

     

    I'll also note that it was your instructions the OP followed. They resulted in a wrongly formatted partition (FAT rather than NTFS) so I question the methodology as well.

    Without even reading the thread properly, you make an uneducated comment. Very strange. The partitioning is done in step 3. There is not FAT partition involved anywhere except to possibly test if the disk will even allow to be partitioned.

     

     

    So after a little bit of messing around i re-formatted my HD, restored via TM, ran boot camp, and fiiiiinally successfully created a new partition for windows. But in typical nature, the universe decided to give me yet another hurdle to jump through: I began the windows setup process (i.e. i could successfully boot from windows CD), but couldn't get to install it, because when it came time to choose the partition, i get this error when i select the BOOTCAMP partition:

    Windows cannot be installed to this hard disk space. Windows must be installed to a partition formatted as NTFS.

     

    So I must have imagined this I guess.

    No you lost the context here. Every single BA partition is a DOS partition, till Windows is successfully installed. OP did not know how to format it within the installer, and he clearly stated it. It requires clicking on Advanced Options in the installer, and then choosing Format. This is standard in every Bootcamp/Windows installation.

     

     

     

    I find your instructions complex, confusing and incomplete. That problem (above) was the result of them. And now as I know you disagree I'll leave it there.

    Yet the OP followed them and has a working installation. Where do you think the comprehension issue lies? If you do not like them, please do not follow them. There was no issue, except your misinterpretation without understanding the context. I also clearly stated that BA can format the NTFS partition before the Windows Installer starts, so there is no need for the Installer to show Advanced Options/Format, but that functionality is not in the current product.


    Yes, I disagree with you. I do not have to agree with you, do I?

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