Is the ram on the late 2014 mac mini still user upgradable?

Apple has not said and their article

Mac mini: How to remove or install memory

Has not yet been updated

However, It looks like the same case or the 2011 and 2012 and thus I would expect the memory is user upgradable like those models.

It does look like the memory is different that the ones in the 2o12 sincethe memoryin the new Mini is

1600MHz LPDDR3 memory

The earlier ones did not use the term "LP". (low power)

If I recall the memory in the2102 Mini was not configurable if purchased from the a retail store,. Only if purchased from the on-line store.

Harrald wrote:

I am wondering if the new Mac Mini has still user upgradable ram. So is it soldered on, or not?

BAD NEWS INDEED................you cannot upgrade the RAM.

It use LPDDR3, so yes it is soldered

BAD BAD NEWS 😝

I will not partake of the new variety of MINI, I hesitate to say its a downgrade

I have spoken to four apple representatives on chat. They told me four different things. 1) YES, it is user upgradeable 2) We do not KNOW that information yet 3) YES, but the RAM slots cannot be seen. It is not soldiered, but difficult to get to, but Is possible. 4) NO, it is not.

However, after a little digging. I believe it IS user upgradeable, because if we look at the Macbook Air, Macbook Pro and iMac 21.5 inch, which are all known to be non user RAM upgradeable. Under the RAM upgrade section of each item. Apple places a little note telling the buy that it is not user upgradeable (although very misleading, because you have to click on the expansion arrow "Learn more," by default this is not open!!!).

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The next picture is of the MAC MINI 2014 right after the keynote Oct 16, 2014. It does not leave a note about RAM not being user upgradeable. For example:

If you buy it and it is not user upgradeable, return it for false advertising, so that companies can stop conning consumers. A matter of fact, print this out now and save it as evidence, because it took me 15 minutes to write and snap the pictures for you all.

Just wait for iFixit teardown

I was waiting for this update for a long time now but with the elimination of QuadCore, Dual Drive Options, and User Upgradable Ram....well I'm not too sure anymore. Also previous "Server" editions of the mac mini were covered by enterprise level support through applecare with a higher scope of support. I imagine with the elimination of the "server" edition, this is gone as well.

According to the chat with Apple support I just had the RAM is userupgradable. According to him the new Dual Core is also faster than the Quad Core of 2012 because of it's faster processor and Intel Iris.

I call ****** on that support employee's assessment that a 2012 quad core is slower than this year's dual core. The actual speed increase for Haswell architecture isn't vastly significant - it's more a reduction in power needs. What a farce! Man, they totally gimped the MacMini on this go-around. If the RAM isn't user-upgradeable, they should be friggin' ashamed. And to have the gall to claim that they're offering us better value for money by 'lowering' the price. Never mind the fact that $499 used to be the introductory price for the MacMini a few years ago.

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lazarusnine wrote:

I call bull*hit on that support employee's assessment that a 2012 quad core is slower than this year's dual core.

Then please post your test results here for us to see.

What is the last mini that was manually upgradeable? I was looking at quad core i7 model if that is.

I really don't know... what I know is that it's not only the processor alone that defines the speed of a computer. I have a mid 2010 Mac Mini which I want to replace, going for the 2-year-old 2012 model now doesn't seem like the right choice.

I won't have to. If you believe a dual core Haswell i5 is better than a quad core Ivy Bridge i7 with similar GHz ratings (Intel graphics aside), you'll believe anything. There are plenty of benchmarks readily available online that should help inform anyone who gives a hoot. My advice to anyone who wants a decent MacMini would be to get hold of last gen's quad core i7 and stick your own SSD and RAM in. It's a no-brainer.

In other words you're taking a guess.

Thanks.

RammyMac wrote:

I really don't know... what I know is that it's not only the processor alone that defines the speed of a computer. I have a mid 2010 Mac Mini which I want to replace, going for the 2-year-old 2012 model now doesn't seem like the right choice.

That's fair and you're correct to point out the importance of other components, but I can't imagine the bus speed of the Mini's motherboard will be vastly different than the 2012 mini. The RAM speed is perhaps a consideration, but they've moved to low-powered RAM and I'm not knowledgeable enough to know the effect of that on RAM performance. Seems to me, if you don't care about Iris graphics, maybe consider the quad core i7 from the previous generation?