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Q: Is the ram on the late 2014 mac mini still user upgradable?

I am wondering if the new Mac Mini has still user upgradable ram. So is it soldered on, or not?

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Posted on Oct 16, 2014 12:32 PM

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  • by lllaass,Helpful

    lllaass lllaass Oct 16, 2014 12:47 PM in response to Harrald
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    Oct 16, 2014 12:47 PM in response to Harrald

    Apple has not said and their article

    Mac mini: How to remove or install memory

    Has not yet been updated

    However, It looks like the same case or the 2011 and 2012 and thus I would expect the memory is user upgradable like those models.

    It does look like the memory is different that the ones in the 2o12 sincethe memoryin the new Mini is

    1600MHz LPDDR3 memory


    The earlier ones did not use the term "LP". (low power)

  • by Harrald,

    Harrald Harrald Oct 16, 2014 12:49 PM in response to lllaass
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    Oct 16, 2014 12:49 PM in response to lllaass

    The fact that Apple says this: "Configurable to 8GB or 16GB, only at the Apple Online Store." next to the memory specifications made me doubt. Also the LPDDR3 memory is the same as on the Air and that one is soldered on.

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Oct 16, 2014 1:03 PM in response to Harrald
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    Oct 16, 2014 1:03 PM in response to Harrald

    If I recall the memory in the2102 Mini was not configurable if purchased from the a retail store,. Only if purchased from the on-line store.

  • by PlotinusVeritas,

    PlotinusVeritas PlotinusVeritas Oct 16, 2014 8:42 PM in response to Harrald
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    Oct 16, 2014 8:42 PM in response to Harrald

    Harrald wrote:

     

    I am wondering if the new Mac Mini has still user upgradable ram. So is it soldered on, or not?

     

    BAD NEWS INDEED................you cannot upgrade the RAM.

     

    It use LPDDR3, so yes it is soldered

     

     

    BAD BAD NEWS

     

     

    I will not partake of the new variety of MINI,    I hesitate to say its a downgrade

  • by Mason H.,

    Mason H. Mason H. Oct 17, 2014 12:22 AM in response to Harrald
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    Oct 17, 2014 12:22 AM in response to Harrald

    I have spoken to four apple representatives on chat. They told me four different things. 1) YES, it is user upgradeable 2) We do not KNOW that information yet 3) YES, but the RAM slots cannot be seen. It is not soldiered, but difficult to get to, but Is possible. 4) NO, it is not.

     

    However, after a little digging. I believe it IS user upgradeable, because if we look at the Macbook Air, Macbook Pro and iMac 21.5 inch, which are all known to be non user RAM upgradeable. Under the RAM upgrade section of each item. Apple places a little note telling the buy that it is not user upgradeable (although very misleading, because you have to click on the expansion arrow "Learn more," by default this is not open!!!).

     

    For example (Last paragraph):

    MacBook Air.png

    For example (Last paragraph):

    MacBook Pro with Retina.png

    For example (Last paragraph):

    iMac 21.5 inch.png

    The next picture is of the MAC MINI 2014 right after the keynote Oct 16, 2014. It does not leave a note about RAM not being user upgradeable. For example:

    Mac Mini 2014.png

    If you buy it and it is not user upgradeable, return it for false advertising, so that companies can stop conning consumers. A matter of fact, print this out now and save it as evidence, because it took me 15 minutes to write and snap the pictures for you all.

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Oct 17, 2014 1:12 AM in response to Mason H.
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    Oct 17, 2014 1:12 AM in response to Mason H.

    Just wait for iFixit teardown

  • by sideshowraf87,

    sideshowraf87 sideshowraf87 Oct 17, 2014 1:36 AM in response to Harrald
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    Oct 17, 2014 1:36 AM in response to Harrald

    I was waiting for this update for a long time now but with the elimination of QuadCore, Dual Drive Options, and User Upgradable Ram....well I'm not too sure anymore. Also previous "Server" editions of the mac mini were covered by enterprise level support through applecare with a higher scope of support. I imagine with the elimination of the "server" edition, this is gone as well.

  • by RammyMac,

    RammyMac RammyMac Oct 17, 2014 4:09 AM in response to Harrald
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    Oct 17, 2014 4:09 AM in response to Harrald

    According to the chat with Apple support I just had the RAM is userupgradable. According to him the new Dual Core is also faster than the Quad Core of 2012 because of it's faster processor and Intel Iris.

  • by lazarusnine,

    lazarusnine lazarusnine Oct 17, 2014 9:33 PM in response to RammyMac
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:33 PM in response to RammyMac

    I call ****** on that support employee's assessment that a 2012 quad core is slower than this year's dual core. The actual speed increase for Haswell architecture isn't vastly significant - it's more a reduction in power needs. What a farce! Man, they totally gimped the MacMini on this go-around. If the RAM isn't user-upgradeable, they should be friggin' ashamed. And to have the gall to claim that they're offering us better value for money by 'lowering' the price. Never mind the fact that $499 used to be the introductory price for the MacMini a few years ago.

     

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 17, 2014 4:32 AM in response to lazarusnine
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    Oct 17, 2014 4:32 AM in response to lazarusnine

    lazarusnine wrote:

     

    I call bull*hit on that support employee's assessment that a 2012 quad core is slower than this year's dual core.

    Then please post your test results here for us to see.

  • by Alexs25,

    Alexs25 Alexs25 Oct 17, 2014 4:39 AM in response to Harrald
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    Oct 17, 2014 4:39 AM in response to Harrald

    What is the last mini that was manually upgradeable? I was looking at quad core i7 model if that is.

  • by RammyMac,

    RammyMac RammyMac Oct 17, 2014 4:47 AM in response to lazarusnine
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    Oct 17, 2014 4:47 AM in response to lazarusnine

    I really don't know... what I know is that it's not only the processor alone that defines the speed of a computer. I have a mid 2010 Mac Mini which I want to replace, going for the 2-year-old 2012 model now doesn't seem like the right choice.

  • by lazarusnine,

    lazarusnine lazarusnine Oct 17, 2014 5:09 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 17, 2014 5:09 AM in response to Csound1

    I won't have to. If you believe a dual core Haswell i5 is better than a quad core Ivy Bridge i7 with similar GHz ratings (Intel graphics aside), you'll believe anything. There are plenty of benchmarks readily available online that should help inform anyone who gives a hoot. My advice to anyone who wants a decent MacMini would be to get hold of last gen's quad core i7 and stick your own SSD and RAM in. It's a no-brainer.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 17, 2014 5:13 AM in response to lazarusnine
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    Oct 17, 2014 5:13 AM in response to lazarusnine

    In other words you're taking a guess.

     

    Thanks.

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