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Q: Java SE 6 on Yosemite?

I just updated my mac to Yosemite and the following message keeps popping up "To open 'this Java application' you need to install the legacy Java SE 6 runtime." No matter if I click "ok" or "More Info..." (the only two options) it keeps coming up. Is there some way I can find out what app is triggering the message or fix the issue?

Posted on Oct 16, 2014 6:11 PM

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  • by Mike Chial,

    Mike Chial Mike Chial Oct 20, 2014 10:31 AM in response to Keith D.
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    Oct 20, 2014 10:31 AM in response to Keith D.

    Witless in Wisconsin here.  Specifically which files do you remove from the Library > Launch Daemons folder?  Or were the files to dump elsewhere?

     

    Thanks for any comments of suggestions.

  • by escocia1,

    escocia1 escocia1 Oct 20, 2014 10:39 AM in response to Mike Chial
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    Oct 20, 2014 10:39 AM in response to Mike Chial

    i removed all of them to a temp file but the java error still popsup at boot

    now i dont know what to do

  • by Paul Skudlarek,

    Paul Skudlarek Paul Skudlarek Oct 20, 2014 11:38 AM in response to escocia1
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    Oct 20, 2014 11:38 AM in response to escocia1

    The temp file route was the way to go -- in most cases, not all of the files were problematic. Each file represents settings for a program that launches when you log on to your Mac. You may want some or all of those programs to open; files in that folder aren't necessarily a bad thing.

     

    The trick to figuring out which program is causing the errors is in the steps I inadvertently left out -- instead of deleting the files, move them to a temp folder, on your desktop, for instance. Log off and back in to OS X to see if the problem goes away. If it does, awesome -- you've determined that one of those programs is your culprit. To find out for sure which one, put one file back in, then log off and back in again to see if the errors come back. Once they come back, you've found your program, and you can decide what to do with it -- if you don't need it any longer, uninstall it. If you do need it, either install Java 6 SE as it asks, or check with the publisher of the program to see if there's a newer version that doesn't need the older Java runtime.

     

    If, however, you've removed all the LaunchAgents files and the error is still occurring, the problem program is elsewhere. Try some of the previous suggestions in this thread, including checking the Login Items section for your name in the Users & Groups panel in System Preferences to see if the item is hiding there.

  • by escocia1,

    escocia1 escocia1 Oct 20, 2014 1:04 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek
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    Oct 20, 2014 1:04 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek

    Paul, i did all the above, temp folder for all lauchagents, hid all login items and switched off all adobe cc, evernote and dropbox web synching activity

    but the same bloody message still appears at boot so i guess the culprit program has not been found yet

    anything else i can do?

  • by Paul Skudlarek,

    Paul Skudlarek Paul Skudlarek Oct 20, 2014 1:23 PM in response to escocia1
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    Oct 20, 2014 1:23 PM in response to escocia1

    Hiding items in the Login Items section isn't enough -- hiding them prevents windows from opening, but the application still starts. To prevent an app from loading, you would need to remove it buly selecting it and pressing [delete] on your keyboard.

  • by Mike Chial,

    Mike Chial Mike Chial Oct 20, 2014 3:45 PM in response to Mike Chial
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    Oct 20, 2014 3:45 PM in response to Mike Chial

    FWIMBW:  I came to the Java 6 back-up, Java 8.25 update discussion because Adobe Photoshop CS5.1 failed to open after upgrading to Yosemite.


    I have a bag full of Adobe products.  Of those I tested, only Photoshop SC5.1 was a deader---PS Elements 12, Premier Elements 12, Lightroom 5,  Bridge CS5.1 Dreamweaver CS5.5,  Audition CS5.5, Illustrator CS5, and Acrobat X Pro opened fine.  Like others posting here, I got a warning after installing Yosemite that a Java fix was needed.  I scurried around and got a link at Apple Support to a patch.  Instructions were cryptic and not very useful.

     

    1.  I downloaded and installed Apple's recommended back-up patch (Java for OS X 2014-001).  Photoshop would not open.  Got this cryptic garbage:

    PS CS5.1 fail in OS 10.10.jpg

    2.  I went to Oracle, downloaded and installed the JRE 8 v 25 update--not the developer version, and not the JRE 7 Apple seems to prefer. I verified that this version existed on my computer using the Oracle verify Java utility in the two browsers I routinely use. Alas, for me Chrome has become a deader (32-bit only; works with Java 6 only), but offered some plausible information and links about how to undo Java updates beyond 6.  Photoshop still would not open.  Same report.


    3.  Following suggestions posted here, I used Terminal very judiciously to try to find things I did not at all understand in various Library folders.  Got quite bummed out by seeming differences between Yosemite and now-dead earlier OS versions, as in no Java panel in 10.10 System Preferences or the Utilities folder within Applications.  I logged out and restarted a number of times.  Photoshop still would not open.  Same report.


    4.  Dug around, found my CS Design Premium DVD, and reinstalled Photoshop CS5 in a new folder, leaving the version that repeatedly exited itself in place.   Photoshop CS5 now opens and works.  So (apparently) do Safari and Firefox.


    5. Now trying to update from Photoshop version 12.0.4 to 12.1 (supposedly a freebie) and resetting pointers to a a few dozen third-party plug-ins for Photoshop.  And to avoid Adobe Application Manager updates that either don't install, or are older than what I already have.

  • by AndyG1128,

    AndyG1128 AndyG1128 Oct 20, 2014 8:42 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek
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    Oct 20, 2014 8:42 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek

    Paul Skudlarek wrote:

     

    RESOLVED.

     

    No, the pop-up did not appear in safe mode. It also did not appear in normal mode when another user was logged in (I keep my administrator and day-to-day accounts separate).

     

    Based on that, a Google search turned up this MacWorld article on where to find various caches of startup items and launch agents. Moving all the items in my user's Library/LaunchAgents folder to a temp location and restarting prevented the pop-up from occurring. Restoring one item at a time with a logoff/logon isolated the problem as the NexDex video plugin used by MLB.TV. I'll look at ways to uninstall it; there's likely to be a newer version next season.

     

    Thanks for your help and persistence, Loner T!

     

    This helped me tremendously.  There was a com.facebookvideochat plist in my LaunchAgents folder.  I pulled it out and restarted.  The message went away.  I didn't realize Facebook had put some launch agent in place to simply use their video chat.

     

    Thanks for the research

  • by Paul Skudlarek,

    Paul Skudlarek Paul Skudlarek Oct 20, 2014 8:44 PM in response to AndyG1128
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    Oct 20, 2014 8:44 PM in response to AndyG1128

    AndyG1128 wrote:

     

    This helped me tremendously.  There was a com.facebookvideochat plist in my LaunchAgents folder.  I pulled it out and restarted.  The message went away.  I didn't realize Facebook had put some launch agent in place to simply use their video chat.

     

    Thanks for the research

     

    Awesome! Glad it helped!

  • by escocia1,

    escocia1 escocia1 Oct 20, 2014 9:26 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek
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    Oct 20, 2014 9:26 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek

    thanks Paul, i now deleted all Login Items but same message still appears

    To view this web content, you need to install the Java Runtime Environment.

    Click “More Info…” to visit the website for the Java Runtime Environment.

     

    whats the next step?

  • by zdavis,

    zdavis zdavis Oct 21, 2014 9:57 AM in response to doughboy04690
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    Oct 21, 2014 9:57 AM in response to doughboy04690

    I had this problem too, and solved it by installing the Java 6 version from the Apple support page: Java for OS X 2014-001

     

    Then I was able to go to the Oracle download page and get the latest (and hopefully most secure) version of Java. I installed it and my Adobe apps still work without any pop up notifications: https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

  • by klmhicks,

    klmhicks klmhicks Oct 21, 2014 12:13 PM in response to zdavis
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    Oct 21, 2014 12:13 PM in response to zdavis

    zdavis, I am forever grateful...this method worked for me!

     

    I originally had 8 installed. Reinstalled 6 opened AI CS6 (which would not launch without the window requiring java 6) closed it down. Installed 8u25 again and all works again!

     

    Yosemite has been the easiest update with the least amount of problems for me and my macs. It runs rather zippy too!

  • by escocia1,

    escocia1 escocia1 Oct 21, 2014 3:12 PM in response to zdavis
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    Oct 21, 2014 3:12 PM in response to zdavis

    zdavis

    why would we want the old Java6 when the current version is Java8 ?

    surely you are going to run into an issue at one stage soon?

    can anyone shine some light in this for us?

  • by Paul Skudlarek,

    Paul Skudlarek Paul Skudlarek Oct 21, 2014 4:03 PM in response to escocia1
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    Oct 21, 2014 4:03 PM in response to escocia1

    There's no single best answer to everyone on this. If the program requiring Java 6 is necessary and cannot be either removed or replaced with a newer version that accepts Java 8, then installing Java 6 may be the right solution. It's entirely case-by-case. Personally, I'm looking to avoid needing to install Java 6, but that may not be the right option for everyone.

     

    Ultimately, if you're getting this error message and want it gone, there's two overall ways to do it -- give the program what it wants, or get rid of the program. The choice is yours.

  • by klmhicks,

    klmhicks klmhicks Oct 21, 2014 4:47 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek
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    Oct 21, 2014 4:47 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek

    I am currently running Java 8u25 not Java 6. But I had to reinstall 6 open AI and then reinstall Java 8...it's voodoo. I don't know why it works I just know that it does.

  • by Mike Chial,

    Mike Chial Mike Chial Oct 21, 2014 8:24 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:24 PM in response to Paul Skudlarek

    Ultimately, there should be (but is not) a simlpe way to dump the OS update and return to the earlier 10.9.  Providing that option would be hugely simplified by the option of DVD distribution of Apple OS updates and of Adobe CC software.  But such argues the conventional commercial wisdom that all users have high speed internet access and (re Adobe's CC subscription hegemony) prefer the prescription drug refill way of leasing software.  

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