OSX Yosemite Wifi issues

Warszawa wrote:

I really need my computer to be operational just like before the Yosemite "upgrade". I'm depending on it every day.

Hi -

That is why I suggested that you install Mavericks and wait a month or two to install Yosemite. At least until this problem blows over.

1) Backup your hard drive then Wipe it.

2) Install Mavericks latest greatest.

3) Copy over your personal files and you're good to go.

If you depend on the computer every day and 10.10 does not do it for you. Then what is there to discuss ;-)

Install a system that works and has stood the test of time. And use your computer productively. You don't need the latest greatest to be productive.

To me that is a fool-proof solution. If you backup your drive while you are sleeping you won't even loose time. Installation is fast and so is migration.

That is less time spent than what you already did trouble shooting. And if nothing works for you. Then there is your way out ;-)

And Mavericks is a perfectly functioning system - and not that old.

I did explain on more than one occasion; I'm not comfortable of performing a such task. It's a much more complicated and involving process then your three point suggestion. I do not want to totally mess my computer up.

@Mamaricci: I tried as you described. One question: when clicking 'Access control' tab in the keychain item, it takes several minutes to open, showing a spinning beach ball all the time. Than the 'enter an admin password' dialogue pops up, that again takes very long before allowing me to enter it. After setting "allow all applications to access this item" another 'enter admin name and password' opens (this time without my current admin account pre-filled) which again takes very long to allow any entry. I was able to confirm the change in the end. While hoping connections will improve, I tried to just look at the same Keychain entry again: same behavior (still waiting for it to open while typing this).

Did you experience the same?

Hi wifiguru,

The speaker that wasn't getting on with my iMac is a Monitor Audio S1 but I hasten to add its not a problem with the speaker. I swapped them around and it was always the speaker on the r/h channel (the one nearest my iMac) that had the issues. It's wired btw and not a wifi or Bluetooth jobie.

Tthe problem I was having with multiple iTunes librarys showing up has disappeared since I relocated things too and my AirPlay connectivity has improved massively since then, allthough it's far from perfect.

Could Yosemite be more susceptible to electrical interference than Mavericks? I don't see how that's possible so I'm thoroughly confused as to what's going on now.

I am having exactly the same problem. I'll initially connect to the router but it will drop the connection after a minute or two. It will usually reconnect after another minute or two. Up and down ... very frustrating. I tried a full fresh reinstall of Yosemite but same results. Something is wrong with the wireless car driver or associated network stack. Would appreciate some attention and fixes from Apple.

I'll post the results of my Maverick downgrade. Tough to get it downloaded with the network dropping out ... 😕

Another interesting phenomenon I experience: I get the message "Another device on the network is using your computer’s IP address". I've gone into my ASUS router and selected a unique IP address for my MacBook Pro. The only possible device that can have the IP address is my MacBook Pro (designated by MAC address). This error shows that it is a low level problem with how the network is functioning on the MacBook. The session is being dropped and then connects in a way that the router doesn't even know it's gone down.

I've got about 20 devices connected to my WiFi and the MacBook is the only one experiencing connectivity problems. I didn't start experiencing these problems until I upgraded to Yosemite.

Here is the system report ...

Model Name: MacBook Pro

Model Identifier: MacBookPro8,1

Processor Name: Intel Core i5

Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 2

L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB

L3 Cache: 3 MB

Memory: 10 GB

Boot ROM Version: MBP81.0047.B27

SMC Version (system): 1.68f99

Serial Number (system): C2QGV006DVHJ

Hardware UUID: DA72AB32-E50A-518A-AB93-7D0259C0A715

Sudden Motion Sensor:

State: Enabled

You really ought to read the document on discussing Pre-Release Software in Publich Domain.

You are infringing upon terms !

There is a reason it is called a BETA. It is NOT yet in a release state. So coming here and crying Wolf is not going to provide anyone with any valid information.

You are spreading false and non-valid information. Hold back on the gossip until 10.10.01 is officially released.

Yep on 10.10.1 beta I am still getting the DNS stall thing where it sits there trying to resolve names.

Really annoying. Makes internet browsing basically impossible and horribly inconsistent. OSX yosemite is basically unusable. I would have expected such a fundamental problem to be fixed in the beta in which it has existed for nearly 2 months now....

OK I reinstalled Mavericks and I am no longer experiencing WiFi issues. The WiFi drops are related to Yosemite.

Apple,

You need to test the OS on all hardware you've sold and support before releasing the upgrade. I understand that you've probably incorporated software from third parties to support the various hardware component you've used in your products. I also understand that it can be expensive to test all these iterations. You charge a premium price for your product and I think it appropriate to expect quality in your approaches. I am very disappointed that you released a half baked product and have been so slow to address these issues.

Nick

I kept on having this problem and fixing it temporarily with all the fixes I could find on the internet. Then a week or so ago I realised that my iMac had the same settings as my MacBook Pro, which I use out and about. There was a list of all the WiFi connections that my MB Pro had been using. Clearly the two are somehow sharing locations over iCloud.

I deleted all locations on both computers including automatic and then set up new locations. The first one was "home": I deleted all connections apart from WiFi for this location. I did this on both. On my laptop I then set up "4G" for tethering and only included a USB iPhone connection. Finally I set up "roaming" for public WiFi sites only. So far for over a week it's been trouble free. This has been an intermittent problem for me for at least 2 years but infinitely worse with Yosemite. If you have two macs and use one when out and about it may be that your home one is trying to use your mobile connections

I think you miss antons2cts 's point. Again you are letting your love affair get in the way of simple logic. Apple should have acknowledged the WIFI issue, instead they said nothing. That appears arrogant and is bad for the brand. Frankly I am getting tired of the 'we know whats best for you' attitude and killing my WIFI has only made this feeling worse.

antons2cts never asked for an apology so I don't know why you wrote an entire paragraph on the topic. After all, like you said, that wouldn't fix the issue. Besides, why bother with an apology when they've got love-sick minions like you running around doing it for them?

Dear Apple, a little less politics, a little less social issues, a little less focus on reworking icons and a lot more focus on quality please.... that's what we want.

Warning, unless you want MortenJamesCarlsen coming after you, please refrain from criticising Apple in anyway. When you point your finger at Apple, he feels like you are pointing the finger at him too and this appears to be causing him some pain.

Dear Morton, we all expect more from Apple. Maybe, if you can look past your love affair and let your hormones drop a few levels, you might begin to expect more too. Maybe then you will spend a little less time defending, apologising & excusing on their behalf (and frankly you should).

Dear Apple, less social issues, less politics, more quality... please.

It's a matter of caring about the customer who pays your high profit margin after all.

What I expect from a firm like Apple, on day 1 :

a) confirmation that there is an issue

so I know that is indeed my mac and not my isp, router, interference from the neighbours etc etc etc etc

b) lists of products affected

c) list of fixes (if any) and workarounds
so I do not have to WASTE MY TIME only to find out that NONE of the solutions floating about work

d) estimated time to fix

are we talking hours, days, weeks, months ?

e) we have a large nr (quantify) of "geniuses" working on it

or are they all hanging out in an Apple shop pushing iPhones?

f) list of other known bugs

g) any other business related to this

h) we will keep you informed
on a daily basis please until this is fixed

SeanjaNZ wrote:

Dear Morton, we all expect more from Apple. Maybe, if you can look past your love affair and let your hormones drop a few levels, you might begin to expect more too. Maybe then you will spend a little less time defending, apologising & excusing on their behalf (and frankly you should).

I know exactly what I want. Quality. That is why, I take my personal time to write up bugs which are concise and reproducible, so that they can be fixed and make my life better.

The Network issues (This is NOT a WIFI Issue) are unfortunately not so easy to reproduce. Some have them while others don't.

So it is not as simple as saying, 'hey guys - lets sit down and fix it, shall we ?' That there is a bug somewhere in the system, is undisputed and these forums along with grand parts of the web are proof of it. But just because there is bug which is quite obvious, one can only fix it, if the source of it is located. And apparently this is not as simple as we would all like it to be.

I can understand that you would feel better if Apple comes out and make a statement about it. And if you want to accomplish that, posting about it here is a waste of good server-bytes and your own time. This a user-to-user forum. Good for providing i.e. temporary solutions to this bug. Solutions, if followed correctly will work in most cases.

You could be surprised about Apple's ability to correct their own program errors or eliminate bugs. The question is; do they want to? After fixing my WiFi problem I'm not sure if Apple is willing to rewrite some of the Yosemite program WiFi protocol. I guess with this "World most advanced" Yosemite operating system some things were pushed forward to the point that older network equipment (modem/router) can't process as before. I have tried all of the suggested fixes and nothing worked. I didn't want to revert to Maverick because it is unapproved process and a little to complicated to perform without any reservations. At the end I have decided to throw my money on it and purchased a new Air Port Extreme router. Apple for some reason abounded my 3.5 years old Air Port Extreme which was no longer eligible for a software update and possibly for that reason didn't want to fully cooperate with Yosemite. The new router has no issues handling the new OSX. I'm doing more testing but looks that in my case the problem is fixed. Well, until next major update or upgrade.