OSX Yosemite Wifi issues

Hi there,


I upgraded my Macbook Pro Retina 15" (mid 2014 revision) to OS X Yosemite last night and am now having issues when using my home WiFi connection. Whilst it connects to either the 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz network, it is basically unusable. Web pages take minutes to load (if they even load at all), dropbox doesn't sync because it can't get a connection and even trying to get to the router config page is extremely slow and hit/miss.


Tethering to my iPhone seems to work ok, as does using my home network via wired ethernet.


Are any others having problems with Yosemite? Wifi was working fine on Mavericks.


Tom

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 17, 2014 12:37 AM

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Nov 18, 2014 1:08 PM in response to Coobik

I have a couple of things to offer here. I am currently staying in a hotel and recently had similar problems. Prior to this, I had no issues with Yosemite/Wifi. The hotel provides WiFi with a non apple router that is on the 2.4 Ghz sppectrum. When I first checked in, no problems. Then a guest in a nearby room showed up in the WiFi list using a MyFi hot spot. Whenever his hot spot was on, I experienced similar issues to what has been reported here. When his hot spot was off no problems and no problems since he has checked out. There are numerous devices, including microwave ovens and Bluetooth that operate on the same 2.4 Ghz spectrum. At least in this case, this was absolutely an interference problem. So, for anyone having the problem click on your WiFi icon in the upper right of your screen and see if you are picking up neighbors WiFi. If you have other Bluetooth devices operating in your house, shut them off. And, lastly, consider upgrading to a 5Ghz router that does not have to share spectrum with other devices.


And...would the blowhards on this forum who rant on that which they no little or nothing puhleez refrain contributing to the noise. Until you become proficient at coding and testing software, you have little standing to belittle those who do and are no doubt working to resolve this issue. Considering the thousands and thousands of lines of interdependent code that go into a product such as Yosemite, we can imagine the complexity of troubleshooting these issues. Getting sick of my in box getting clogged up by the shining ignorant.

Chris


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Nov 18, 2014 1:38 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsen

Well, to a certain degree I have to agree with Coobik. Please do not forget that Apple is charging us a high premium for their products. Additionally, from the company like Apple which makes a following statement "Yosemite is the world most advanced operating system" we're all expecting nothing but the best. It does obligate them to a full responsibility of matching or backing above statement with a highest quality products, hardware and software. I do know that some of us are impress with Yosemite's structure or appearance, however without a full, uninterrupted, dependable WiFi functionality the Yosemite for many of us is simply worthless, and please it doesn't matter if was for free. It did negatively impact our expansive machines. Yes, and I do know that we are imperfect species making constant mistakes but we are also fully equipped to correct them. The way I see it Apple is in the dark on this one.

Nov 18, 2014 2:01 PM in response to tomstephens89

rMBP 15'', external GPU late 2013. Connected via WiFi to Airport Extreme base station. I measure the throughput to a second MBP that is connected via LAN cable to the Airport Extreme.


If I boot from the internal SSD 10.10.1 I get WiFi speeds below 2 Mbps.


If I boot from an external clone of my last 10.9.5 system the WiFi Speeds reach well above 100 Mbps.


In both cases the Tx rate display in OS X shows > 145 Mbps.


This is clearly an OS issue. I am glad my rMBP is still under warranty, so bringing it over to the genius bar is an option for me. It is clearly not an hardware issue but the only way to get this resolved is to cause Apple some pain/work.

Nov 18, 2014 2:12 PM in response to tomstephens89

This problem, dropping wifi connection, is nothing new to Macbook Air users. It started with the mid 2013 models and still has not been repaired yet. There have been a bunch of things tried and still nothing from Apple. Maybe now that it affecting more users Apple will finally get off the stick.

To all those that have not had this problem before, Welcome to the Club!

Nov 18, 2014 2:16 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsen

Did Apple ever respond or acknowledge your hard work and help? How do you know that they take a time and read your reports? Please, you can be possibly serious about expecting from all of us after spending a ton of hard earned money on Apple staff to get involved in software troubleshoot process. I believe that why we have the beta testers for. Great majority of people are not technically oriented or equipped to preform complex tests and submit data reports. I could be wrong but the way I understand a purpose of this forum is to share our experiences, opinions and if we can help each other with an information which could contribute to resolution of some of simple, common issues.

Nov 18, 2014 2:47 PM in response to tomstephens89

Okay, I don't have the time to read 80 pages so if this has been discussed just move along politely... 😉


I helped my friend with a brand new, fully tricked out 15" MBP last night and I couldn't connect to her brand-new AirPort. No error messages, no nothing. It just sat there. So I checked her 3 iPads, two iPhones, ATV, MacBook Air and my new 6Plus iPhone. All worked fine with no connection problems. Now her brand new MBP is the only device running Yosemite so there's that...


My thirty nine years in computers experience told me that this has got to be something simple. So I try again and still no good and still NO ERROR MESSAGE (are you paying attention Apple?).


So sitting there with the curser in the PW box I was just tapping away on a key when the JOIN button turns BLUE to try to connect. I said it can't be this simple (my friend had a complicated PW but only 6 bytes long). So I change the router PW to a complicated 11 characters and connect right up with the new MBP!!! And I then did Migration Assistant and the MBP flew through the transfer.


So there you have it, in my instance at least, the router has to have 8 or more bytes for a PW.


Apple, please pop an error message to explain this. I figured it out due to my vast experience but people that have little could be lost in a storm... 😕

Nov 18, 2014 3:00 PM in response to Warszawa

How do you know that they take a time and read your reports?

Because they communicate with me. That is what happens when you submit reproducible bugs instead screaming like a spoiled child ;-)


Please, you can be possibly serious about expecting from all of us after spending a ton of hard earned money on Apple staff to get involved in software troubleshoot process.

From where I'm sitting, it certainly appears that you are very much actively involved in troubleshooting. If you had put half the effort you took writing up on this thread in to reporting bugs to Apple, you might have helped fix the bug. Perhaps one of the system diagnoses you would have sent in, could have contained the golden clue..


I could be wrong but the way I understand a purpose of this forum is to share our experiences, opinions and if we can help each other with an information which could contribute to resolution of some of simple, common issues.

You are not wrong... And this forum is great for such.... But when it takes a turn where good information becomes flaming of developers, it serves no one any good. If going here to get advice and all you read is "Apple is this Apple is that" / then what the heck am I going here for...

Nov 18, 2014 3:28 PM in response to tomstephens89

I have been having numerous issues with Yosemite on my 2013 15" Macbook Pro such as whole system crashes and WiFi/Bluetooth issues.


Last night I updated to OS X 10.10.1 and although it seems stable so far and light browsing seemed ok, a speedtest revealed the speeds to be about a quarter (both up and down) of the normal speeds.


I really hope Apple has fixed this, I only recently bought the Apple Wireless Keyboard to avoid wearing down the Macbook's keys 😝 but with the Bluetooth issues of late, I'm noticing my Macbook is beginning to look worn with all the typing I do 😟


- Not-A-Happy-Chappy

Nov 18, 2014 4:23 PM in response to henrikfromuppland

Yep - since upgrading to Yosemite, my Wifi keeps cutting out. Sometimes it works for an hour before doing so, other times it could be a minute. Oh, and sometimes it tries to fool me - by showing a strong signal - but it's lying.


Installed the patch 10.10.1 today - it did not fix the problem. Apple seems to have screwed up big time.

I wouldn't usually bother to post up as you're all doing a fine job, but I understand that Apple does look at how many postings there are on a topic, to see whether to try to fix it. So, everyone visiting here, if you have a problem with the WiFi/ Yosemite thing, LET APPLE KNOW by posting here. Maybe they'll do something.

Nov 18, 2014 4:45 PM in response to ecotecit

Indeed Ecocetit. I'm using a Sitecom WiFistick with a Ralink RT3572 chipset on my old MacBooc Core Duo under Snow 10.6.8 because the reception/transmission is better than the internal Airport.

It uses its own drivers, and a program called "Ralink Wireless Utility". Bit buggy after computer sleep but sure does work and perfectly mixes with Airport. Just another Ethernet device/ card on your network (En2).

Don't know if it will still run on an OSX higher than Snow. But an interesting test case it might prove if indeed it would still run under Yosemite!

Just before posting this, I've switched off Airport, and logged into Apple Support again, in order to post this over the Ralink stick. Just testing.

Nov 18, 2014 5:54 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsen

+1 for that. Anyone should use 5GHZ where he can

Indeed. Everybody is crying wolf here over Yosemite software. Understandable, in some way.

But this thread shouldn't be used as a garbage can for any old WiFi issue. We all should know running Bluetooth will create interference on the overcrowded 2.4 GHz band.

We all should equally be aware (and this fact is rather less known) that running a simple USB3 external device will also create ample interference on the same 2.4 GHZ band. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/universal-serial-bus/usb3-frequency-in terference-paper.html

We all should as well be aware that the issues described in this thread may only be happening along with/ due to the use of specific older routers. Which makes reproduceability of the problems wellnigh impossible.

On top of that there is also an issue that has not been touched upon in the whole of this thread: Internet Service Providers and their tricky practice of Traffic Shaping: some providers, whenever they sense your computer is reaching a big link speed, will throttle your Internet connection, especially during business hours. Now maybe, just maybe, for some reason, Yosemite is a bit more speed hungry than Mavericks and you are with an ISP using Traffic Shaping. In that case you will be ok for a minute or 2, until throttling sets in.

Whats more, there is the issue of ipV6 barely coming into action globally, whereas Apple has had it built into Mac OSX for aeons. What clashes may this fact cause?

And the last one: DNSsec coming to bear globally, and not being implemented in most places/ servers yet.

I'm just a fairly average user with an interest in all of the above, but seeing all this i'm amazed at all I can still get to you over the internet.

Dear Apple devs, you have my respect, please deserve our sympathy as well.

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