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Nov 18, 2014 1:01 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby Coobik,Apple should not have released Yosemite then, it should still be beta. Apple is immature and irresponsible
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Nov 18, 2014 1:02 PM in response to tomstephens89by bearwife,I had trouble with Yosemite for a day and a half, but using fixes suggested in this post got me running again without issue. When I posted on that, I got jumped on for saying a solution worked, allegedly because I hadn't waited long enough to say so. Then I updated to the latest release yesterday and lost wifi again. Once again, working through solutions in this post got me running again. I've been tracking the thread since it first went up and I have to say that the venting is getting very old. Want to get through to Apple that you are frustrated? Call them. Want to help others use their wifi? Post your solutions if you find any. But please don't keep clogging this thread with your anger -- though understandable, it just creates a giant morass of comments for others who want to solve their problem to have to read through.
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Nov 18, 2014 1:07 PM in response to ecotecitby MortenJamesCarlsen,ecotecit wrote:
If a company releases a product, you expect it to do what it's supposed to do.
I expect MANY of the parts which it is supposed to do, NOT to work as intended.
That is what my experience has taught me.
I have yet to see an OS or App where each and every feature - work flawlessly. Pro Tools is the most stable app I have ever seen and used. But even that has about 10% bugs when released.
if a company were to release a product without conducting extensive research with a working internet connection, they are absolutely immature and irresponsible.
Yes - 100% agreed. I do not work for Apple but I am willing to bet everything I have that they HAVE conducted such tests.
Ask yourself, who stands to loose something here... Who is getting all the heat... Who is being ridiculed by online headlines "Yosemite, The World's Most Advanced Operating System -- Now WITHOUT WiFi and Internet"
Not you not I but Apple !
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Nov 18, 2014 1:08 PM in response to Coobikby c.doppler,I have a couple of things to offer here. I am currently staying in a hotel and recently had similar problems. Prior to this, I had no issues with Yosemite/Wifi. The hotel provides WiFi with a non apple router that is on the 2.4 Ghz sppectrum. When I first checked in, no problems. Then a guest in a nearby room showed up in the WiFi list using a MyFi hot spot. Whenever his hot spot was on, I experienced similar issues to what has been reported here. When his hot spot was off no problems and no problems since he has checked out. There are numerous devices, including microwave ovens and Bluetooth that operate on the same 2.4 Ghz spectrum. At least in this case, this was absolutely an interference problem. So, for anyone having the problem click on your WiFi icon in the upper right of your screen and see if you are picking up neighbors WiFi. If you have other Bluetooth devices operating in your house, shut them off. And, lastly, consider upgrading to a 5Ghz router that does not have to share spectrum with other devices.
And...would the blowhards on this forum who rant on that which they no little or nothing puhleez refrain contributing to the noise. Until you become proficient at coding and testing software, you have little standing to belittle those who do and are no doubt working to resolve this issue. Considering the thousands and thousands of lines of interdependent code that go into a product such as Yosemite, we can imagine the complexity of troubleshooting these issues. Getting sick of my in box getting clogged up by the shining ignorant.
Chris
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Nov 18, 2014 1:16 PM in response to Coobikby MortenJamesCarlsen,Coobik wrote:
Apple should not have released Yosemite then, it should still be beta. Apple is immature and irresponsible
It is in Beta. All the Time... Between each release a beta is released.
Software is in constant progress.
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Nov 18, 2014 1:22 PM in response to c.dopplerby Coobik,obviously there is wifi driver problem on yosemite. after the update 10.10.1, I cannot bring AC 5 GHz mode to life for more than couple of seconds. 2 GHz mode lives though, after several OFFs and ONs.
what we see now is AC wifi does not work. so the shiny macbook air 2013 is downgraded to a cheap acer
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Nov 18, 2014 1:38 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby Warszawa,Well, to a certain degree I have to agree with Coobik. Please do not forget that Apple is charging us a high premium for their products. Additionally, from the company like Apple which makes a following statement "Yosemite is the world most advanced operating system" we're all expecting nothing but the best. It does obligate them to a full responsibility of matching or backing above statement with a highest quality products, hardware and software. I do know that some of us are impress with Yosemite's structure or appearance, however without a full, uninterrupted, dependable WiFi functionality the Yosemite for many of us is simply worthless, and please it doesn't matter if was for free. It did negatively impact our expansive machines. Yes, and I do know that we are imperfect species making constant mistakes but we are also fully equipped to correct them. The way I see it Apple is in the dark on this one.
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Nov 18, 2014 2:01 PM in response to tomstephens89by Dembo,rMBP 15'', external GPU late 2013. Connected via WiFi to Airport Extreme base station. I measure the throughput to a second MBP that is connected via LAN cable to the Airport Extreme.
If I boot from the internal SSD 10.10.1 I get WiFi speeds below 2 Mbps.
If I boot from an external clone of my last 10.9.5 system the WiFi Speeds reach well above 100 Mbps.
In both cases the Tx rate display in OS X shows > 145 Mbps.
This is clearly an OS issue. I am glad my rMBP is still under warranty, so bringing it over to the genius bar is an option for me. It is clearly not an hardware issue but the only way to get this resolved is to cause Apple some pain/work.
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Nov 18, 2014 2:07 PM in response to Demboby wifiguru,What does Wireless Diagnostics -> Window->Info tell you ? (Option click the Wi-Fi Menu Extra to get to Wireless Diagnostics)
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Nov 18, 2014 2:12 PM in response to tomstephens89by darrbee,This problem, dropping wifi connection, is nothing new to Macbook Air users. It started with the mid 2013 models and still has not been repaired yet. There have been a bunch of things tried and still nothing from Apple. Maybe now that it affecting more users Apple will finally get off the stick.
To all those that have not had this problem before, Welcome to the Club!
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Nov 18, 2014 2:16 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby Warszawa,Did Apple ever respond or acknowledge your hard work and help? How do you know that they take a time and read your reports? Please, you can be possibly serious about expecting from all of us after spending a ton of hard earned money on Apple staff to get involved in software troubleshoot process. I believe that why we have the beta testers for. Great majority of people are not technically oriented or equipped to preform complex tests and submit data reports. I could be wrong but the way I understand a purpose of this forum is to share our experiences, opinions and if we can help each other with an information which could contribute to resolution of some of simple, common issues.
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Nov 18, 2014 2:19 PM in response to Coobikby Andrew Nalty,I have the opposite issue. 5GHz works great (in some modes) but 2.4GHz is super slow.
Frequency Mode MacMini iPhone 6 2.4GHz Up to 54Mb/s 0.917 5.27 5 GHz Up to 54Mb/s 7.56 14.76 2.4GHz Up to 144Mb/s 0.395 10.33 5 GHz Up to 144Mb/s 27.87 36.55 2.4GHz Up to 300Mb/s 0.016 0.01 5 GHz Up to 300Mb/s 53.03 or lose connection entirely!! 27.75 -
Nov 18, 2014 2:47 PM in response to tomstephens89by Daniel Reilly,Okay, I don't have the time to read 80 pages so if this has been discussed just move along politely...
I helped my friend with a brand new, fully tricked out 15" MBP last night and I couldn't connect to her brand-new AirPort. No error messages, no nothing. It just sat there. So I checked her 3 iPads, two iPhones, ATV, MacBook Air and my new 6Plus iPhone. All worked fine with no connection problems. Now her brand new MBP is the only device running Yosemite so there's that...
My thirty nine years in computers experience told me that this has got to be something simple. So I try again and still no good and still NO ERROR MESSAGE (are you paying attention Apple?).
So sitting there with the curser in the PW box I was just tapping away on a key when the JOIN button turns BLUE to try to connect. I said it can't be this simple (my friend had a complicated PW but only 6 bytes long). So I change the router PW to a complicated 11 characters and connect right up with the new MBP!!! And I then did Migration Assistant and the MBP flew through the transfer.
So there you have it, in my instance at least, the router has to have 8 or more bytes for a PW.
Apple, please pop an error message to explain this. I figured it out due to my vast experience but people that have little could be lost in a storm...
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Nov 18, 2014 2:49 PM in response to tomstephens89by Anamcr,when i started having this issue i tried everything that is posted here.
i tried resetting my router, the keychain access thing, EVERYTHING, nothing worked.
i reinstalled mavericks and my internet connection is working fine now, APPLE NEEDS TO FIX THIS, end of story.