tomstephens89

Q: OSX Yosemite Wifi issues

Hi there,

 

I upgraded my Macbook Pro Retina 15" (mid 2014 revision) to OS X Yosemite last night and am now having issues when using my home WiFi connection. Whilst it connects to either the 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz network, it is basically unusable. Web pages take minutes to load (if they even load at all), dropbox doesn't sync because it can't get a connection and even trying to get to the router config page is extremely slow and hit/miss.

 

Tethering to my iPhone seems to work ok, as does using my home network via wired ethernet.

 

Are any others having problems with Yosemite? Wifi was working fine on Mavericks.

 

Tom

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 17, 2014 12:37 AM

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  • by PFJ30,

    PFJ30 PFJ30 Mar 3, 2015 12:45 AM in response to hexdiy
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    Mar 3, 2015 12:45 AM in response to hexdiy

    Hi Hex

     

    Yes running iCloud

     

    Will turn it off for a while

     

    On wake this morning no wi-fi icon and it didn't auto connect after signing in - 1st time ever i think except in the middle of a not working phase (it went to sleep last night with wi-fi connection) - was always there (95%+) or connected to 2.4 auto on sign in.

     

    Ciao

     

    EDIT

     

    Hmmm, just remembered why I didn't do this already - anything connected over iCloud - Mail, contacts, docs etc etc - is deleted from Mac if you stop using iCloud...better think on it again.

  • by cpmax,

    cpmax cpmax Mar 3, 2015 9:27 AM in response to PFJ30
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    Mar 3, 2015 9:27 AM in response to PFJ30

    It's definitely software related. I'm on the 10.10.3 and it still hasn't been fixed. Usually affects me when I wake from sleep but on occasion it will get screwed up. I have to take out the wifi profile entirely and stay on ethernet if I want a stable connection. Also, I installed Linux Mint and it has had no issues with wifi. Linux Mint 17 is snappy and stable so I might just switch if this doesn't get fixed.

  • by drwmay,

    drwmay drwmay Mar 3, 2015 3:03 PM in response to cpmax
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    Mar 3, 2015 3:03 PM in response to cpmax

    Evening,

     

    I have this issue, while I'm using wifi connection suddenly the connection stop to work even if the wifi icon tells me that I'm connected, than I have to disable and reconnect wifi. And it could works fine for hours or just few seconds, than I have to do again the "disable thing".

     

    Is this problem already been advised?

     

    Anyway it's unbelievable that, I, with a 2300 euros machine 8 months old, I can't work fine, and the girls in my house with machines 6 - 7 years old with linux can work fine!

  • by Sparkleberry,

    Sparkleberry Sparkleberry Mar 3, 2015 3:24 PM in response to drwmay
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    Mar 3, 2015 3:24 PM in response to drwmay


    Anyway it's unbelievable that, I, with a 2300 euros machine 8 months old, I can't work fine, and the girls in my house with machines 6 - 7 years old with linux can work fine!

     

    I have a five year old Macbook Pro and my WiFi has run flawlessly regardless of the OS.

     

    I am sure there is a mathematician in the forum who can calculate the permutations and combinations or whatever due to the  third party apps, the third party hardware, third party dongles, and the numerous ISP providers and their hardware and installs that make the entire process of what seems to be "just an internet connection" more than relatively complex.

  • by hexdiy,

    hexdiy hexdiy Mar 3, 2015 3:36 PM in response to drwmay
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    Mar 3, 2015 3:36 PM in response to drwmay

    while I'm using wifi connection suddenly the connection stop to work even if the wifi icon tells me that I'm connected

    That, drwmay, is exactly the issue at hand here. The WiFi icon may correctly inform you your WiFi radio is well and truly connected to your WiFi router, this does not mean your DNS is getting resolved. Meaning a.o. your public Wan IP is not getting found/ connected to.

    Today I've received an invite by Apple to join the Yosemite 10.10.3 testing seed program, but I know in advance ( by correspondence and reading) that this will not alleviate Yosemite WiFi issues in some hardware setups.

    You seem to know the most common workaround: go to System Preferences, delete your current WiFi network, add it again and have it reconnect. Usually works.

    Good luck!

  • by hexdiy,

    hexdiy hexdiy Mar 3, 2015 5:04 PM in response to hexdiy
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    Mar 3, 2015 5:04 PM in response to hexdiy

    Something else maybe; unlikely blast from the past. Workaround never published and easily tried, even for non-technical users:

    AirPort: Can Connect to Base Station But Not to Internet When Using PPPoE - Apple Support

    Please for testing purposes switch off PPPoE ( Point-to-Point-over-Ethernet, rarely used anymore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-point_protocol_over_Ethernet)  in System Preferences> Network > Advanced.

    Seems like just the antiquity which might interfere sometimes...

    Update/ edit: the update for the first link was edited by Apple only today, so mind carefully what is being written. Yosemite might loosen its tether here... at last!

    Fingers crossed.

  • by hexdiy,

    hexdiy hexdiy Mar 3, 2015 7:13 PM in response to hexdiy
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    Mar 3, 2015 7:13 PM in response to hexdiy
  • by steveOooo,

    steveOooo steveOooo Mar 4, 2015 12:25 PM in response to tomstephens89
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    Mar 4, 2015 12:25 PM in response to tomstephens89

    ADd me to the sorry long list of users with no wifi. Montain lion to Yos. Think I need to erase and restore back to ML amd upgrade to a windows workstation which seem more professional than apple - 9 year mac user - just feels like apple are updating for updating sake. Instead of releasing stuff when it's 100% sound they release half baked trash.

  • by velociter,

    velociter velociter Mar 4, 2015 1:35 PM in response to tomstephens89
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    Mar 4, 2015 1:35 PM in response to tomstephens89

    Seems like the Apple devices, such as Airport Time Capsule, provides better compatibility with the Yosemite implementation of the wifi protocol than other devices. I have multiple wifi- routers at home, (Airport Time Capsule, Netgear WNDR3700v3, and Zyxel P-2812HNU-F3), though I never connect to the last one.

    I normally have no issue (net)working with the first two. However, I noticed the other day, when Airplaying to my Apple-TV that the Network connection to my router disconnected immediately. Checking which router I was connected to - voila - the Netgear. I connected to my TimeCapsule, and I had no network loss and Airplay worked just fine. Connecting back to Netgear, the connection to the router just dropped.

    Apparently we are facing an implementation of technology not supported by all devices we have around us.

     

    Should Apple just face the truth? Should they admit that their vision of seemless integration between between devices just doesn't work with any devices?

     

    Please, add a notice when you connect to an incompatible router, and say: "If you connect to this router, we are unable to support seemless integration with your iDevice (such as iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, iWatch etc). Click OK to accept." Then fall back to the old wifi/bluetooth protocols.

     

    Please let us get this option until issue is resolved. Please, please, please.

  • by lkrupp,

    lkrupp lkrupp Mar 4, 2015 2:49 PM in response to velociter
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    Mar 4, 2015 2:49 PM in response to velociter

    velociter wrote:

     

    Should Apple just face the truth? Should they admit that their vision of seemless integration between between devices just doesn't work with any devices?

     

    How about the router manufacturers get THEIR act together to support ALL current and valid implementations and protocols. What makes you think the cheap home routers on the market (DLink, Linksys, Netgear, Trendnet, et al) are God’s gift to WiFi standards? Have you ever looked at the release notes for some of the firmware updates put out for these consumer grade routers? I’ve seen a number targeted directly at fixing Apple specific issues. Then there’s the old market share priority list where the router manufacturers test only for Windows PC WiFi compatibility. They then take the attitude that as long as it works for Windows it (should, maybe, possibly) work with OS X too. Who made Microsoft the arbiter of what is correct protocol?

     

    You’ve seen posts by a user who works with a large IT department that has a large Yosemite deployment with no more trouble tickets than before and maybe fewer. Do you think those IT departments use a $50 D-Link wireless router? How about professional grade Cisco products.

     

    I completely reject your theory out of hand. There are millions of Yosemite installations world wide working flawlessly with WiFi. The last 20 pages of this thread have degenerated into conspiracy theories by anonymous commenters who may or may not know what the heck they are babbling about.

  • by Sparkleberry,

    Sparkleberry Sparkleberry Mar 4, 2015 3:07 PM in response to lkrupp
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    Mar 4, 2015 3:07 PM in response to lkrupp

    I completely reject your theory out of hand. There are millions of Yosemite installations world wide working flawlessly with WiFi. The last 20 pages of this thread have degenerated into conspiracy theories by anonymous commenters who may or may not know what the heck they are babbling about.


    Hear, hear!

    +1



    From my  own post above:

    "I have a five year old Macbook Pro and my WiFi has run flawlessly regardless of the OS.

    I am sure there is a mathematician in the forum who can calculate the permutations and combinations or whatever due to the  third party apps, the third party hardware, third party dongles, and the numerous ISP providers and their hardware and installs that make the entire process of what seems to be "just an internet connection" more than relatively complex."

  • by amirfazwan,

    amirfazwan amirfazwan Mar 4, 2015 3:42 PM in response to tomstephens89
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    Mar 4, 2015 3:42 PM in response to tomstephens89

    I also having this problem.

    It has to do with bluetooth.

    After i enabled/disable the bluetooth, the internet works significantly.

    As I use my college's wifi, the router's band is out of my control.

    If I turn off the bluetooth, my keyboard and trackpad won't be able to be used as I use mirroring display with closed-clamshell.

    Plus, 10.10.2 update not solving the problem though.

     

    Fix this Apple!.

  • by hexdiy,

    hexdiy hexdiy Mar 4, 2015 3:43 PM in response to lkrupp
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    Mar 4, 2015 3:43 PM in response to lkrupp

    lkrupp wrote:

     

    velociter wrote:

     

    Should Apple just face the truth? Should they admit that their vision of seemless integration between between devices just doesn't work with any devices?

     

    How about the router manufacturers get THEIR act together to support ALL current and valid implementations and protocols. What makes you think the cheap home routers on the market (DLink, Linksys, Netgear, Trendnet, et al) are God’s gift to WiFi standards? Have you ever looked at the release notes for some of the firmware updates put out for these consumer grade routers? I’ve seen a number targeted directly at fixing Apple specific issues. Then there’s the old market share priority list where the router manufacturers test only for Windows PC WiFi compatibility. They then take the attitude that as long as it works for Windows it (should, maybe, possibly) work with OS X too. Who made Microsoft the arbiter of what is correct protocol?

     

    You’ve seen posts by a user who works with a large IT department that has a large Yosemite deployment with no more trouble tickets than before and maybe fewer. Do you think those IT departments use a $50 D-Link wireless router? How about professional grade Cisco products.

     

    I completely reject your theory out of hand. There are millions of Yosemite installations world wide working flawlessly with WiFi. The last 20 pages of this thread have degenerated into conspiracy theories by anonymous commenters who may or may not know what the heck they are babbling about.

    I may not know completely but surely try to learn about what the heck I'm babbling about. Day by day. And I may be cautious, but sure as heck am not a conspiracy theory follower. Just trying to catch up, research and help here...

    Anyhow, thanx for your contribution, Ikrupp! Please try to be a little more lenient next time.

  • by hexdiy,

    hexdiy hexdiy Mar 4, 2015 3:55 PM in response to Sparkleberry
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    Mar 4, 2015 3:55 PM in response to Sparkleberry

    Sparkleberry wrote:

     

    I completely reject your theory out of hand. There are millions of Yosemite installations world wide working flawlessly with WiFi. The last 20 pages of this thread have degenerated into conspiracy theories by anonymous commenters who may or may not know what the heck they are babbling about.


    Hear, hear!

    +1



    From my  own post above:

    "I have a five year old Macbook Pro and my WiFi has run flawlessly regardless of the OS.

    I am sure there is a mathematician in the forum who can calculate the permutations and combinations or whatever due to the  third party apps, the third party hardware, third party dongles, and the numerous ISP providers and their hardware and installs that make the entire process of what seems to be "just an internet connection" more than relatively complex."

    On the other hand, playing advocate of the devil, why then are neither Windows or any Linux OSes experiencing any trouble within these sometimes antiquated  and complicated hard/software setups?

    Hey, get me right: my old Snow Leopard has never malperformed on any (guest) network whatever, ever, either...

  • by velociter,

    velociter velociter Mar 4, 2015 4:08 PM in response to lkrupp
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    Mar 4, 2015 4:08 PM in response to lkrupp

    lkrupp wrote:

     

    You’ve seen posts by a user who works with a large IT department that has a large Yosemite deployment with no more trouble tickets than before and maybe fewer. Do you think those IT departments use a $50 D-Link wireless router? How about professional grade Cisco products.

     

    I completely reject your theory out of hand. There are millions of Yosemite installations world wide working flawlessly with WiFi. The last 20 pages of this thread have degenerated into conspiracy theories by anonymous commenters who may or may not know what the heck they are babbling about.

    Please understand that the average community of Mac users are not working in large IT departments. I bring my Mac everywhere where I go, and there might not be routers that support this new technology. You cannot expect that every household, cafe or hotel will have the newest and most expensive equipment in place.

    And, please understand, that I do not conspire, nor am I against seemless integration. I am, like all the other hundreds here on this thread, frustrated, as Apple, that this new technology is causing more trouble than benefits to us Mac-users.

    I had no issues whatsoever with wifi on Mavericks, using the same hardware as I am using today.

     

    And lastly. I expressed my self wrong.

    - Should they admit that their vision of seemless integration between between devices just doesn't work with ALL devices?

    That is what I meant.


    I am asking that Apple gives us an interim solution meanwhile we wait until all routers are either upgraded or replaced (in most of the world).


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