Q: OSX Yosemite Wifi issues

If I read your post correctly, you think that the problem lies with cheap routers and not with Yosemite. I have a cheap router and have no problems with wifi; my daughter has an almost identical set up (same iMac, same ISP, same router) but does have severe wifi problems. I have even lent her my router but to no avail. We don't, however, have identical software in that, for example, she has Office installed and I don't, and I have some apps that she doesn't. Large organisations may have expensive routers and perhaps have a combination of software and hardware that works properly but, since large organisations often have standard configurations controlled by professional IT staff, it would not be surprising if there were large numbers of people in the same organisation having no problems. I don't, therefore, think it follows that expensive routers are the answer to the wifi difficulties that people are experiencing.

The problem may be caused by cheap routers, or Yosemite, or third-party software, or ISP configurations or just about any combination of them. The key to solving any problem is gathering data and, generally, the more data the greater the chance of identifying the cause of the problem and establishing a solution. Of course, conspiracy theories do not help, but to dismiss as babbling 20 pages of posts by people who are impacted by this problem and are offering inputs that they think might help does not further the cause. In fact, by resorting to insulting language you damage your own arguments and open yourself to retaliation, and I hope that you will agee that this really would be a degeneration of the discussion.

Cheap home routers God's gift to Wi-Fi. Hmm? You named Linksys as one of the brands. I believe that is Cisco. Who made Microsoft the arbiter of what is correct protocol? YOU and ME and the rest of the world who bought and consumed Microsoft Windows from 3.1 all the way until now. Cisco and Microsoft being the two that are being used Globally as the Server and Domain solution for Global Manufacturing Companies, Global Corporations and Private/Big Business.

The internet protocol is an standard that is used on a Global basis for Networking Broadcasting and Ethernet equipment. Microsoft and all developers must adhere to.

The bottom line, there IS a known issue in Apple's OS X Yosemite. Please refer to OSXDaily and MacWorld just to name two sources. There is due diligence on Apple's part to have some who posted in this Thread and others to be part of the solution to the Known Issue with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Ethernet in Yosemite. The "babble" is the occasional venting amongst ourselves who are experiencing this frustration. No conspiracy theory. Known FACT that there IS a problem with Yosemite's Networking and interaction with iOS 8. Further investigation will reveal that there are known issues with iOS 8 interacting with Wi-Fi and OS X Yosemite as well. We have and are paying the price for FREE. When OS X upgrades were available to purchase this funding paid for RND, Testing and QC of the OS X upgrade. Thank you for your input but please do not belittle all of those who's Macs have been rendered almost unusable due to the instability of the Yosemite release.

still no solution eh? Lovely.

jndupuis1 wrote:

 

The bottom line, there IS a known issue in Apple's OS X Yosemite. Please refer to OSXDaily and MacWorld just to name two sources. There is due diligence on Apple's part to have some who posted in this Thread and others to be part of the solution to the Known Issue with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Ethernet in Yosemite. The "babble" is the occasional venting amongst ourselves who are experiencing this frustration. No conspiracy theory. Known FACT that there IS a problem with Yosemite's Networking and interaction with iOS 8. Further investigation will reveal that there are known issues with iOS 8 interacting with Wi-Fi and OS X Yosemite as well. We have and are paying the price for FREE. When OS X upgrades were available to purchase this funding paid for RND, Testing and QC of the OS X upgrade. Thank you for your input but please do not belittle all of those who's Macs have been rendered almost unusable due to the instability of the Yosemite release.

No, there is not. If you choose to ignore the FACT that millions of Yosemite and iOS 8 users have no issues with WiFi and you have no explanation as to why that is the case that’s your business. YOU tell me why I’m not having any issues with either OS X or iOS 8. Strength in numbers and I personally know no one who is experiencing issues. If you can extrapolate your experience into a “known” issue then why can’t I extrapolate my experience into an issue that affects a small number of users for unknown reasons?

If you and other’s theories are true then EVERY Yosemite user should be dead in the WiFi water. We know that’s not the case. Nothing has been narrowed down. No specific model of Mac or iOS device has been zeroed in on. No brand of router has been singled out. No specific system configuration is apparent. We don’t know if the supposed issue affects only urban dwellers where WiFi signal concentration is congested (i.e. numerous routers in a small area like an apartment building.) Lastly, a number of commenters who had issues have reported success in resolving them using various solutions like changing channels, moving routers, rebuilding networks, etc.

But no, you and others have settled on it being a Yosemite problem, no matter the vast user community is not having issues. And anyone who points that out is pounced upon. Advanced and long time helpful forum members stopped visiting this thread months ago because the response to their suggestions has been “Well, you’re a fanboy not willing to accept the truth.” Apple is on the verge of releasing Yosemite 10.10.3 and nothing has changed for some beta users. And the response is to call Apple’s engineers incompetent. Yeah, right.

And the “Well, it worked before and now it doesn’t” theory is a wrongful interpretation of cause and effect.

And if you believe this issue is pandemic, being ignored by Apple or that Apple is incompetent to fix it then where are the lawsuits, eh? Class action lawsuits have been filed for a lot less than this. If a lawyer thinks they can make a buck then... explain that.

On a whim, I tried a search for "wifi issues windows" and, of course, up come oodles of posts, stories, issues, solutions. Many from Windows 8.1 users.

Some of the "solutions" posted for Windows users with wifi problems (most of the time, something worked for someone, but some folks seemed to be stuck in the end with no solution):

* Revert to an earlier version of the driver

* Update to the latest driver version

* Replace Windows driver with Broadcom driver

* Reboot router

* Reset wireless settings then reconfigure

* Replace router

* Move router or add access point

* Disable wireless, then re-enable wireless

* Disable bluetooth

* Disable sleep to prevent loss of wireless upon wake

* Clear corrupted DNS cache; change DNS resolver settings

Here's a post, scores of others can be found like it:

"Every other PC, laptop and device in the house can connect to the WiFi fine, but ever since the auto-upgrade to 8.1, this Dell laptop can't connect. That's not entirely accurate, I should say that it will connect fully to the Internet through the WiFi if I reset the router (unplug it, wait, plug it back in). Then the Dell will connect for an hour, a day or even a couple days. But then, without warning, the connection drops - it sees the router just fine, but won't connect. And no amount of fiddling with settings, updating drivers, flushing, modifying or anything else mentioned here (or in the dozen other sites I've visited) will cause it to reconnect. I would consider that the problem is with the router except that all my other devices connect to it just fine. Also it should be noted that this Dell did connect to and use the WiFi router just fine until the upgrade to 8.1. So I don't think it's the router, but I'm confounded by why this won't work. If anyone has any more suggestions, I'm all ears."

OK So clearly you are employed with apple's PR department. Nice try! Let me be very clear, I pay a premium rate for apple products and I simply expect everything to work. I am a user not a technician. I could add more but why play your little game?

As I have a MBP with 10.10.2 and at home having a Airport Extreme I still have intermittent WIFI problems, i.e connecting to internet. That requires a reboot of the laptop to get going again. In addition the problems with accessing the USB disk connected to the airport extreme is there all the time, WIFI sync between itunes and Iphone5, ipad2, ipad3 is not working, airdrop between laptop and the rest of the devices is not working and streaming music from the laptop to an airport express is not working. As you see all these products are Apple and was working with the previous versions of the OS so having a switch for different vendors of wifi equipment is probably not the solution. 

I forgot one thing that is working a bit better...

handoff is working as it should when it comes to safari, maps, notes and calendar. Mail is not. I tried to start this mail on my MBP and complete it on the iphone 5. When trying to continue on the phone after some 30 seconds I get the error message on the phone ”Could not continue activity. The operation couldn't be completed. (cocoa error 4609)”

OK, this thread is becoming a haven for technicians and not the simple user who is having extreme difficulty getting any pleasure out their (expensive) Mac purchase.

Posting all the so-called workarounds is all very well, and indeed some posters are getting some pleasure out of it, however the fundamental issue remains. OS X Yosemite has some sort of fault meaning that any Mac device using it is having problems.

I've been away on business for the last coupla weeks, however this weekend I will be returning my Mac Book Pro to the store from which I bought it. I will be demanding a full refund under the (UK) Sale of Goods Act. It's reasonable to assume, under the act, that the machine is faulty and NOT fit for purpose. Faults within the first 6 months are deemed to have been present when sold.

I paid £999 for a trouble free experience (as Apple are at pains to advertise). It's been anything but trouble free. I've had no pleasure out of my purchase and it's been an expensive experiment.

Echoing a post (or two) from another user a few pages back; I'm a user and not a technician. I'm not interested, at all. in playing around with the system settings. It should be, as implied in the sales/advertising blurb, plug 'n' play.

I'll re-post with news of how I get on.

I waited too long and unfortunately can't revert to Mavericks.

Do we know if they are working on a fix? Any answer from official channels? Do they at least admit the problem? 'cos last week my friend went in a mac store to buy a new mac, and he asked about the wifi problem, and the answer was, mac has no wifi problem!

I need to know the timing, I can't wait too much, 'cos I need it for work.

drwmay wrote:

 

Do we know if they are working on a fix? Any answer from official channels? Do they at least admit the problem? 'cos last week my friend went in a mac store to buy a new mac, and he asked about the wifi problem, and the answer was, mac has no wifi problem!

 

I need to know the timing, I can't wait too much, 'cos I need it for work.

1. No

2. No

3. No

Not to question the wealth of knowledge that is lkrupp but I would say if Apple has reached out to some people on this board than they know there is an issue.

lkrupp,

I am not sure why you are paying attention to this forum at all. Having no wifi-issues at all in your large IT-department.

I also wonder if you respond to your colleagues the same way as you respond to posts here on the forum. If you do, I am sure that you are equally popular IT-manager as a Swedish Hockey player I worked with on a project. That was the last time I worked with that guy.

drwmay,

You wonder if apple is working on a fix. I believe so. If not, why would they bother contacting lots of people on this forum to collect logs and analysis results as well as producing seeds for tests.

Back to you lkrupp,

I know for sure that the there is a wifi/bluetooth-problem with Yosemite, based on the following facts:

• No changes was done in the environments I am normally appear with my computer. After upgrading, I am having problems depending on type of routers.
• I had no problems using Airplay previously, regardlesss of router I was connected to. After upgrading it depends on the router.
• We are two developers working in the same room. I am on Yosemite, he is still on Mavericks. After I upgraded, my computer interfere with his Bluetooth. If I switch off my Bluetooth, he can use his.

And lastly, let me say that I have been working in the computer industry for more that 30 years. With this experience, I have empathy with both colleagues and developers of the software I use daily.

If you have no wifi-issues, lkrupp, I suggest you keep out of this forum.

@velociter

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Do not feed lkrupp, it's definitely a troll

Just ignore him.