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Jun 18, 2015 1:10 AM in response to jrpinnaby LadyPac,jrpinna wrote:
Hi same issue here, closed to the router it is ok. Otherwise, wifi symbol shows full bars but the browsing experience is awful. Have to disable/enable wifi permanently. My mbp is nearly useless. I guess that if I go to an Apple store the wifi will working fine. I wonder if there is a way to record wifi status in order to come with some kind of evidence ?
Hi jrpinna,
Yes, this seems to have been my real issue from the very beginning, literally since the second I restarted my MBP after installing 10.10.0.
After my complaints on this thread, I received a couple of phone calls from Apple, we successfully recreated the issue, and then I emailed them the logs when I could get online again, but I have no idea whether it revealed anything more useful than an "inadequate wifi signal" (which had never been inadequate on the same laptop, in the same house, on Mavericks.) In my old place, where I couldn't really get VERY close to the router, there was one corner of my bed where my MBP had to face a certain direction for me to be able to get online - and, all the while, my wifi symbol was showing full bars. In my new place, where the router if like a foot away from me all the time, it's fine. But, if I take my MBP to the bedroom, which is maybe 15 feet away, it's a hit and miss. Again, full bars all the time.
I am a very average user, and I really don't understand how it all works. All I know is that these issues started the second I downgraded to Yosemite. There were literally no changes in the environment or the hardware.
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Jun 18, 2015 1:46 AM in response to LadyPacby osihara,Hi. I didn't see the message you quoted but here is your likely approach to gathering evidence. Hold OPTION when you click on the Wi-Fi icon in the menu-bar. that will reveal an expanded menu with more advanced settings. You can turn on logging and you can run an actual monitoring session that will save out a file that you can investigate or mail to Apple.
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Jun 18, 2015 2:54 PM in response to osiharaby shwh,I'm using OS 10.10.4 Public Beta 1436Eb, the latest, and still I cannot use Bluetooth and WiFi concurrently; activating Bluetooth disables WiFi immediately.
The same symptom occurred on the previous two public betas.
The same symptom occurred on OS 10.10.3.
On OS 10.10.2 and OS 10.10.1 WiFi did not work at all independent of Bluetooth unless I was within a short distance of our modem, even with the modem's transmit power setting configured to maximum.
On OS 10.10.0, again I could use WiFi if Bluetooth was deactivated.
I now suspect that I will not be able to use WiFi and Bluetooth together for all releases of Yosemite since El Captain will be released soon; looking forward to posting in the "OS X El Capitan Wifi Issues" thread.
Pretty amazing considering this Mac is a mid-2012 15" rMBP. Modem is a Netgear 760S.
Half of my hard drive has OS 10.8 installed. If I boot using that then WiFi and Bluetooth function faultlessly, unlike the 6 versions of Yosemite I have installed. I think that says it all.
This is pretty bad. Such fundamental functionality shouldn't have been compromised and then take more than 6 attempts to correct. Who knows what's going on?
Downloading all these attempts (i.e versions) is also rather annoying when our monthly data allowance is 15GB and that's the maximum offered by our only available ISP.
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Gawd, what is happening: I just tried to post the above and was told user Grayn280 has been banned so I couldn't post - but I'm not Grayn280. What the? And why does the beginning of this thread state it's branched to a new discussion which is inaccessible? And why is my icon a dog? What is going on?
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Jun 19, 2015 1:02 PM in response to tomstephens89by tomaszboril,Hello Apple (yosemacbook) family,
we all know and experienced how bad could be a whole year without working bluetooth and wifi together. Actually after trying over 20 fixes from all around the globe internet sources, I found very strange and simple how to manage this problem. Btw all those fixes were temporary, ye wifi was working for around half an hour but than hangover came back.
My solution for working wifi with bluetooth is quite simple:
You need to setup your router right way, after many and many test of various routers and different places to log into with my bluetooth accessories I figured out, that all the wifi connection which were "public" in the street etc without any protection or password WORKED PERFECTLY, while any WPA2 secured wifi was a garbage together with bluetooth.
So how I solved this? I reset my router to a factory settings, so I would start with fresh router, setup a new name (ssid) to my router, told my macbook (rmbp 15 late13) to remember that router. Security/privacy let to stay "unprotected" (many of you can say aaaa thats strange i won't do that, but follow the reading) and told the router to "don't stream SSID name" so others can't find that router to join. While some advanced users still can manage join to hidden router, I gave them a ban for joining, due to setting up an advanced MAC address protection, so only my macbook, my smartphone, friends notebooks etc which was joined to the router before the reseting could join back and get online. (that's inside every router settings to allow connection of specific mac dresses only)
And bluetooth vs wifi solved for me and 3 of my friends.
Ofc I did a clean install of yosemite twice, but for you who are not able to spend over 8hours of setting all the programs and apps required for work like I did, I won't recommend you to reinstall whole your OS, just reinstall/setup the router the right way.
Give it a shot, because I would bet one of those hours I spent figuring what could be wrong, that this could help you. Maybe first try another router to reset into "unprotected" wifi or go your local café/square for joining into public wifi and testing if it works, than setup your router at home/work
All the best,
Tomas
PS: Got an old TP-Link router with 2,4 only, haven't tested 5GHz routers... I know it looks like a hard way how to setup all your gear at home with their MAC address but take care of data you sent to internet and don't allow anyone else to join your network
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Jun 19, 2015 2:14 PM in response to tomaszborilby steve626,tomaszboril wrote:
My solution for working wifi with bluetooth is quite simple:
I reset my router to a factory settings, so I would start with fresh router, setup a new name (ssid) to my router, told my macbook (rmbp 15 late13) to remember that router. Security/privacy let to stay "unprotected" (many of you can say aaaa thats strange i won't do that, but follow the reading) and told the router to "don't stream SSID name" so others can't find that router to join. While some advanced users still can manage join to hidden router, I gave them a ban for joining, due to setting up an advanced MAC address protection, so only my macbook, my smartphone, friends notebooks etc which was joined to the router before the reseting could join back and get online. (that's inside every router settings to allow connection of specific mac dresses only)
And bluetooth vs wifi solved for me and 3 of my friends.
It is actually quite easy for someone to scan through the network traffic to/from your router and (a) they will see the SSID in the stream, even when it is not broadcast, and (b) they will see the MAC addresses of devices in the vicinity as well. This is actually pretty easy to do with utilities one can easily download from various online sources. These utilities are typically used for troubleshooting, looking for interfering signals, etc., but along the way, these text strings can be seen.
So without a good WPA2 password protection on the router, almost anyone can do this and thus enter your "private network" and do who knows what to your devices, computers, phones, etc. I don't think this is an acceptable risk, at least not for me.
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Jun 19, 2015 2:24 PM in response to tomaszborilby Alex Shum,YEs, you have to bear in mind that ALL traffic in your wireless network is now unencrypted, so it is up for grabs for anyone with a little hacking knowledge.
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Jun 19, 2015 4:38 PM in response to Alex Shumby tomaszboril,You guys are definively right but for someone it can be acceptable fix - no collegues, nor anyone who would join the network and hack yourself :-)
At least for me at work where I need to work on graphics fast which is not possible without bluetooth (still not working with any secret info so thats why I did it this way).
And I think it should be mentioned as a working fix here :-) quite strange one, but apple can focus on errors with wpa bugs and nonwpa working bluetooth.
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Jun 25, 2015 5:41 AM in response to bjelliotby mungbeanuk,Changing the router IP addresses worked for me too... did it about 4-5 weeks ago and haven't had a problem since.
My addresses are now starting at 10.10.0.1.
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Jun 26, 2015 9:07 PM in response to osiharaby osihara,Update from me. My dongle has just started showing signs of the Wi-Fi issue. Just the last couple of days. Which is really bad because I'm going into an extremely busy stage of a project for a client. Down-time will not reflect well on me. Will definitely have to warn them Apple's software and hardware is buggy and will let me down. Still waiting for the replacement Wi-FI card to arrive.
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Seems to be related to waking from sleep and or unlocking the display.
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Jun 29, 2015 12:29 AM in response to osiharaby jndupuis1,Hello!
Been out of pocket but with just time enough to see your update. Sorry to hear about your dongle and more so about your client situation. This puts you in quite a bind.
I have taken full advantage of Boot Camp. I use Windows 7 Pro. I have found in Boot Camp, that splitting the partition is good for OS X as well as Windows. Have you considered Boot Camp?
I, speaking for myself, printed out the Boot Camp instructions from Apple and followed them to the letter. All you need is a dedicated 16 GB Thumbdrive formatted with MBR in MS DOS (for the Apple drivers) and, of course, the Windows 7 Pro Operating System Disc with Product Key. Just a suggestion. This may help you out of a tight with clients. Cheers!! -John
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Jun 29, 2015 12:54 AM in response to jndupuis1by osihara,I used to use it but found rebooting between OS' was too disruptive. I bought a media PC to use for my windows site tests on my code and design work.
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Jun 29, 2015 7:59 AM in response to osiharaby jndupuis1,Awesome. I should have thought you would have a back up plan. Yeah, rebooting back and fourth is disruptive. One positive of Boot Camp, for me, is OS X can read NTFS and Windows reads HFS. Right now, until things get ironed out and more stable, I'm leaning more on my Windows install. Take care. Cheers!!
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Jun 29, 2015 6:32 PM in response to shwhby shwh,Hightechdad's suggestion has thus far fixed my problem. As I explained above on June 18, Bluetooth has prevented me from using WiFi from my Netgear 760S for every Yosemite release since the first release and including the latest public beta of 10.10.4.
The solution was -
1. Record modem's settings
2. Confirm the latest firmware is installed (SWI9200H2_03.05.14.06ap)
3. Reset the modem to Default Factory Settings (button lives under "About your Mobile Hotspot")
4. Restore original settings.
Now I can use Bluetooth and WiFi simultaneously. I hope it stays this way.
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Jun 30, 2015 7:13 AM in response to shwhby HighTechDad,Glad that installing latest firmware on your wi-fi router worked and doing the factor reset.
Apple removed by post (I believe it was too promotional). However, it does have a long list of possible fixes. If anyone needs to see it, just search for "HighTechDad Yosemite Wi-Fi issues" or something similar and it should be one of the top results.
I'm really hoping to find a commonality somewhere. Perhaps it is Netgear routers, or perhaps it is simply reseting a wi-fi router to factory defaults.
There is a solution out there...