Q: OSX Yosemite Wifi issues

Christopher Starks wrote:

 

a .0 should work out the door.

yes - and so should democracy but it doesn't - yet still it is the best we have....

He he... Funny, I'm in Video and Audio FX programming... As I saw the subnet mask-numbers (255) I thought to myself, perhaps 8 bit is max as in 8 bit color... And yet still I did not put it together with the octets.... Hheheh...

I am going to go to bed... MUST be very tired... Thx 4 writing.. Appreciated !

I have the same problem here with macbook pro 9,1. Apple must definitely patch this bug.

Are we ever going to advance as human race to a next level? We argument or excuse our mistakes as genetically acquired "human imperfection". How we are going to progress into 21 century and beyond as modern space age specie? There is no reason for a large company like Apple to minimize errors instead of notoriously making them. The iOS 8.0.1 update took away ability to connect most i-Phones by creating a wide spread "no service" error. Just a couple of weeks later the 10.10 OSX Yosemite affected ability to connect many computers through networks via WiFi. As I stated; an operating system is like a heart in human body. Why most Apple updates or upgrades are causing WiFi issues? Can't Apple afford the best computer software engineers, designers or hackers and simply spend more time on testing before a public release? I guess if you care more about share holders an marketing more than about dedicated customers things like unintended but avoidable errors will continue to happen. I'm expecting and demanding from Apple more for my had earned money. Thanks everyone for making a forum like this one possible.

the easy'ish way to find the offending device is to run nettop in terminal and see what is hanging around after you turn wifi off as there should not be any established tcp connections after 15 secs or so assuming its not plugged into the lan, then its just down to pin point the offending device by turning things on or off or connecting and disconnecting and noting what hangs about each time you turn wifi off and in my case it was always tcp6 on my iMac so after turning my iMac IPv6 off and on all is well oh and it didn't matter if my iMac was off it still got it from who knows where

also manual IPv6 vs automatic shouldn't make any difference to speed as long as it has an address turning it off really slows it down though

Democracy is an utopia. It's a promise which will never materialize. Apple on another hand is charging a hefty premium to make their promises happen. I'm not dreaming, am I?

Can't Apple afford the best computer software engineers, designers or hackers and simply spend more time on testing before a public release?

Of course they can. And given the nature of how great Apple products, in general work, I would say that those people you refer to, are already working @ Apple. It is obvious that if Apple had those kind of problems, in-house, that they would not have released 10.10 or fixed the issue b4 the release.

Engineers are humans just like yourself. And they make the same amount of mistakes as the rest of us. Perhaps this wasn't a mistake. Perhaps an oversight, perhaps something quite simple, that no one could have ever predicted. Perhaps perhaps. That is WHY people should think twice before upgrading the minute the upgrade arrives. Apple did NOT force you, personally, to upgrade to the latest greatest. You did that all by yourself. And if you rely on your work done with that computer, you are irresponsible for just clicking an upgrade button whenever you see one !

Blame it on whoever you like, Apple, your TV, your brother... It WONT change the fact that this problem is here, on this very date. And that you have trouble with your WIFI. Does it suck. YES. But try using windows, that suck without being broke. Id rather use yosemite without wifi than W with wifi...

Apple is going to fix this - rest assured. And remember this incident next time you see an upgrade button.

While I agree that it's naive to expect that any OS or other software is perfect at the time of its release, I also believe that few on this forum are expecting perfection. What I expect from Apple is an OS release that provides reliable functionality of what I view as its core components, which certainly includes WiFi, especially in light of the fact that Apple has chosen to remove ethernet connection capability from some of its recent products. I find it hard to believe that these issues didn't come to light during the Developer Previews and public betas. I can't imagine that the many people who participated in them weren't using most, if not all, of the other apps, routers, and other variables that could conceivably cause the conflicts with Yosemite that may be responsible for the problems with WiFi and Time Machine that have been reported here and elsewhere. What is the reason to rush an OS upgrade release without assurance that it will function as advertised?

Perhaps more egregious is Apple's refusal to publicly acknowledge the problems. In my view, their continued silence smacks of arrogance and a disregard for their customers who have paid top dollar for products on which they could presumably rely. Others here have said that it's just the way Apple has always behaved. While that may be true, it doesn't make it acceptable. Since Apple has a much-deserved reputation for innovation, maybe they should devote some of it to their approach to customer relations.

I do realize that participating in an Apple program is voluntary, however not free. Can't we hold any one accountable for anything anymore? Can't we depend on anybody anymore without a fear of being affected by someones error? Yes, I agree that nobody made me upgrade. With a Maverick I waited few months before taking action, however with the Yosemite after reading customer reviews and paying a close attention to an average 4.5 star rating in the Application Store i took a chance instead of waiting and now are suffering from it. Should I blame myself for putting trust in someone? Don't you thing that a company like Apple which is in existence because of their customers should not be trusted? Again, I'm not going to blame myself for placing a trust in someone. We need to understand that in today's diminishing quality world if we continue to compromise for less everything around us will gradually deteriorate.

Perfectly stated. I have nothing more to add. Thanks for your comment.

I have encountered a similar issue. I upgraded to Yosemite a couple of days after it went live with no problems until I checked into one of those two story open front motels on 10/30 with my iMac. For the first 3/4 days, no problem. then all of a sudden, I was getting booted off the local WAN every1-5 minutes. Since then, I have learned more about WiFi protocols than I ever wanted to know. One of the things that I noticed was that at certain times of the day, the problem disappeared. Today, the problem went away around dinner time and reappeared a couple of hours later. I happened to be looking at the wifi networks that were showing up when I saw Verizon-MiFi5510L-8CBD appear under the WiFi icon. I did not catch on to the combination of alpha numeric characters (Duh..MiFi) so I did a google search. Sure enough it is a Verizon 4G hotspot. So from following this thread and my own sleuthing, I think that 10.10 has caused the Mac WiFi hardware hypersensitive to external interference on the 2.4 Ghz spectrum where most routers operate. turns out that Bluetooth, microwave ovens and a bunch of other devices operate at 2.4 Ghz. One solution would be to upgrade to a 5 Ghz router if your Mac is compatible. You can make that determination by going to About This Mac and looking at your hardware profile. If you see 802.11n or 802.11 ac you can use one of these routers. There is nothing but WiFi on the 5Ghz spectrum so that should eliminate the interference. Barring that, I guess the only real solution would be to try to track down any source of 2.4 Ghz interference or hope that Apple addresses the issue with a future tweak of OS 10.10. Hope this helps. Took me a fair bit of sleuthing to figure this out. I am baffled as to why anyone would use a Verizon 4G router when the hotel is showing 30Mb/sec when these idiots are not disrupting the local network.

Chris D

Some people say Mac OS 8.1.1. helped there issues. Has anybody tried it already? http://osxdaily.com/2014/11/03/os-x-10-10-1-update-seed-1-released-to-developers /

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Okay well I seam to have fixed the problem, for me anyways. I tried everything else in this thread. Here's what I did that worked out for me:

I have a dual band router, Apple Airport (mimo) running 2.4ghz and 5ghz

try this:

• open Airport Utility>click airport>edit>wireless>wireless options>check 5Ghz network name
• connect to that network and make it your preferred network

My theory was that maybe the signal is getting dropped during automatic handoff from 2.4 to 5 ghz spectrum (like a cell phone does)

So I split my Airport into two wifi networks, one on 2.4ghz and one on 5ghz with different names

I paired my Macbook Pro Retina only to the 5ghz wifi network, and attempted to do what had become impossible (stream video and audio through AppleTV) and BAM! It worked!!

All I can figure is that there's something wrong with the way Yosemite handles the 2.4ghz to 5.0ghz spectrum handoff. Once that was eliminated, no more issues. That would also explain when the same computer would work on one network, but not the other.

Woot! Just streamed half an hour of video through Airplay and downloaded over 6gb of data in the background, not a single issue!!!