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Nov 12, 2014 2:23 AM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby bodya,I want to use channel 36, but my expensive AirPort Extreme AC allows me to select only higher channels 136 - 153. I believe it because of country restrictions. It was my additional question: is it possible to change channels list on AirPort Extreme AC?
My successful experiment with channel 36 was in other place with cheap Belkin router which allow to setup any 5GHz channel.
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Nov 12, 2014 12:46 PM in response to tomstephens89by CrashOverride,I don't think it's a Wifi-specific issue. I think it's a Safari issue. I've come to this conclusion after switching to ethernet thinking it would solve the problem.
My problem generally occurred when I was doing a lot of downloading while surfing. It seemed to happen more with video than with pics. The solution had been to toggle wifi off and on. This worked for increasingly shorter and shorter periods of time before I'd have to repeat the step. The same problem occurred when I was using ethernet with wifi turned off.
So, I tested different browsers to see if I could recreate the issue and no other browser had any kinds of problems. My test involved opening at least 30 tabs at the same time and then option-click downloading as many media items as I could as quickly as I could. Firefox doesn't have that command other than a right-click menu option, so, it didn't have an issue since it would download faster than I could attempt to jam it. Chrome has that function and no matter what I did I couldn't break it. I then switched back to Wifi and I got the same exact results.
So, my conclusion is that this is a Safari-specific issue and not a hardware issue.
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Nov 12, 2014 12:48 PM in response to afuturoby CrashOverride,I don't think it's a hardware issue. I think it's specific to Safari. I did some testing after I found that the same thing happened on ethernet with wifi turned off. I found no issues using any browser except for Safari, which seemed to jam when I tried to do too many things at once.
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Nov 12, 2014 2:28 PM in response to tomstephens89by poppy forbes,People Still Aren't Downloading iOS 8
Posted: 11/12/2014 4:13 pm EST Updated: 21 minutes ago
People don't seem to be in a hurry to download Apple's latest mobile operating system.
Apple on Tuesday said that 56 percent of people who visited the App store on November 10 were using devices running iOS 8, up just 9 percent since Apple last released figures more than a month ago.
iOS 8 came out on September 17, and while people initially rushed to download it, adoption quickly slowed. After only four days of being out, 46 percent of people visiting the App store had downloaded it. But two weeks later, that number had climbed only 1 percentage point.
It's difficult to compare the most recent official adoption figures from Apple to figures from last year, because it doesn't appear that Apple released these numbers in November 2013. But Mixpanel, a mobile analytics company, also keeps track of iOS adoption. Mixpanel's analysis of the percentage of iOS devices running iOS 8 on November 10 was 57.88 percent, close to Apple's.
At this time last year, iOS 7 was on 75.5 percent of iPhones, according to Mixpanel. (Apple did release figures December 5, 2013 that said iOS 7 adoption had hit 74 percent; it does not appear that iOS 8 will reach that in the next three weeks.)
iOS 8 had a rough start, which could contribute to a reluctance to download it. The long-awaited Health app wasn't compatible with third party apps at launch, but the update to fix it was even buggier -- it rendered some new iPhones pretty much useless, and Apple made the rare move of pulling the update, which led to oodles of bad publicity.
Apple did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Wednesday.
iOS 8 also isn't a huge departure from iOS 7, the way that iOS 7 was a complete redesign from iOS 6. So some people probably don't feel a huge need to download it. Apple Pay, which is the biggest new feature of iOS 8, only works on the newest devices.
John Gruber, a prominent Apple blogger, wrote last month that slow adoption of iOS 8 is because of storage space -- it can take a whopping five gigabytes of free space to update the operating system via Wifi. How many people have that free space on their phones to dedicate to upgrading the OS?
Still, Apple is breaking records with its latest iPhone models. All of the newest iPhones come with iOS 8, so that number should be boosted by the people who are visiting the App Store with their new phones.
If you have an older iPhone and it's working well, you should think twice about downloading the latest operating system. As I wrote about last month, operating systems are designed for the latest and greatest hardware, and tend not to run as well on older phones.
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Nov 12, 2014 2:43 PM in response to tomstephens89by belmondoshkin,Here is my story - I can't promise it'll be unique. Early 2013 13" MBP. Never had WiFi problems. After upgrade, WiFi gets disabled occasionally. And nothing helps.
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Nov 12, 2014 2:46 PM in response to CrashOverrideby belmondoshkin,>I don't think it's a hardware issue. I think it's specific to Safari.
Nope, I hate Safari and never use it. Run Firefox instead. And last time, I lost my WiFi network when I was browsing the Apple Store.
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Nov 12, 2014 2:53 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby belmondoshkin,>Yes there are bugs in 10.10. If you find any, report them to feedback @ Apple... In a detailed form. They DO listen.
Why don't they fix the Wifi bug then? Ok, they don't know how to fix it. But can they admit this problem if they do listen?
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Nov 12, 2014 3:10 PM in response to CrashOverrideby kaym,I was wondering the same thing - but was not certain enough to post. I stopped using Safari & started using Firefox. Voila! no more disconnects.
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Nov 12, 2014 3:56 PM in response to CrashOverrideby MortenJamesCarlsen,CrashOverride wrote:
I don't think it's a Wifi-specific issue. I think it's a Safari issue. I've come to this conclusion after switching to ethernet thinking it would solve the problem.
So, my conclusion is that this is a Safari-specific issue and not a hardware issue.
Sorry to put a stop to your theory.
1) This issue is very much alive just by connecting two Mac running yosemite. Safari or Mail NOT even open.
2) It not a hardware issue. Then all the people would not start to complain with the arrival of yosemite but had done so MUCH earlier.
3) This problem which is now unfortunately referred to as WIFI Problem. Is not a WIFI problem. But a Network Problem. WIFI works great, I never ever loose the WIFI Network but I DO loose the ability to resolve to ANY IP or Host.
WIFI works great - Network Resolve does NOT !
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Nov 12, 2014 3:59 PM in response to belmondoshkinby MortenJamesCarlsen,belmondoshkin wrote:
>Yes there are bugs in 10.10. If you find any, report them to feedback @ Apple... In a detailed form. They DO listen.
Why don't they fix the Wifi bug then? Ok, they don't know how to fix it. But can they admit this problem if they do listen?
What is there to admit.... Half the user base of Yosemite including Apple HQ is running with no problems.
Aside from that, if they did not listen, they would hardly ask betas to concentrate on WIFI - Now would they !
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Nov 12, 2014 4:04 PM in response to kaymby MortenJamesCarlsen,kaym wrote:
I was wondering the same thing - but was not certain enough to post. I stopped using Safari & started using Firefox. Voila! no more disconnects.
The disconnect could have something to do with speed. If the physical cable you are connected to is not able to carry the bandwidth, the connection is cut.
This was a BIG problem in Germany and many other countries (and still is) the ISP offers i.e 20Mbit downstream - what they fail to mention is that if connectee is located further than 1500 meters away from the main distributor, the physical connection going in to the house is only able to carry 6Mbit.
Perhaps, that is something to check out. Firefox is not exactly the 'newest' technology. Nor the fastest. (Please don't take this thread off topic in to a FF vs. Safari War ;-)))
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Nov 12, 2014 4:34 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby antons2cts,Are you serious?
This problem has been going on for weeks without as much as a comment from Apple.
Obviously, the testing before release has been seriously inadequate.
That's what they could admit.
They could do customer relations management.
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Nov 12, 2014 4:54 PM in response to antons2ctsby MortenJamesCarlsen,antons2cts wrote:
Are you serious?
This problem has been going on for weeks without as much as a comment from Apple.
Obviously, the testing before release has been seriously inadequate.
That's what they could admit.
They could do customer relations management.
Again... What should their comment be... This is not a clear cut thing.
Look, they are doing customer relations the way they see fit.
Personally, I don't give a darn if they come out and say, 'hey - we are so sorry that some are having problems with their Network'... That is NOT going to make the problem @ hand go away... Working, in house on fixing the issue and posting it to beta testers IS. And latter is exactly what they are doing... That is what I want -- a fix. An apology isn't going to fix networking.
Aside from that, do you know how many other branches of OS X is having some kind of flaw, for some and not for others, causing issues for various professionals and other people. Apple would then have to set up whole new website and start apologising all over the place. That would be pathetic. And totally unnecessary. They fix those issues when they can repro them. And that is what counts. To me at least. You can't buy jack with an apology.
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Nov 12, 2014 5:34 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby kaym,I had no intention of starting a "Safari v Firefox war" and I believe my comment was "on topic". I don't particularly give a hoot which browser I use ... as long as it gives me what I want. If my disconnects have something to do with speed: then I don't know why the sudden deterioration post installation of Yosemite - just saying ...
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Nov 12, 2014 6:32 PM in response to tomstephens89by JonVdG,I had wi-fi dropping issues, as well as slow down issues on a 2014 Mac Mini running Yosemite. I confirmed it wasn't a DSL issue by testing my iPhone and iPad on the same network. For awhile, I suspect a hand-off problem, but ruled this out by switching off hand-off on all of my devices. I also suspected a Safari issue, but I ruled this out when I noticed connectivity issues with other apps. After trying a couple other proposed solutions from this forum, I found a fix that seem to really work - resetting the System Management Controller (SMC). I've been running at full speed without any loss of connectivity for four days now. I can't rule out the possibility of the issue coming back at some point, but I highly recommend the SMC reset. Apple's online support has the best instructions for how to do this with any Apple laptop or desktop. I followed the instructions pasted below exactly for my Mac Mini.
Important note: While this fixed my internet connection issues, my Magic Trackpad still has response issues. No lost connectivity, just unpredictable cursor movement. I had no problems with it whatsoever with Snow Leopard. My hope is that 10.10.1 address this as well, which is likely a bluetooth problem.
A big thanks to this community and the poster who originally suggested the SMC reset. Good luck to all. Apple will likely have a more comprehensive fix very soon.
Resetting the SMC for Mac Pro, Intel-based iMac, Intel-based Mac mini, or Intel-based Xserve
- Shut down the computer.
- Unplug the computer's power cord.
- Wait fifteen seconds.
- Attach the computer's power cord.
- Wait five seconds, then press the power button to turn on the computer.