Master26A

Q: Does Yosemite Improve or Reduce Performance?

Hi there,

 

I'm a user of a Macbook Pro 15 Retina from 2013, and I'm considering upgrading to Yosemite. Although I do want to upgrade for the new look and features, I do have one major reservation. If Yosemite is going to make my computer less responsive, laggy ect. then I'm going to hugely regret the decision. For me Mavericks is a great OS, and so a performance hit would seriously put me off. Can anyone share some experience they've had with the full version please?

 

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated!

MacBook Pro with Retina display

Posted on Oct 17, 2014 5:48 AM

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  • by kk2485,

    kk2485 kk2485 Jun 17, 2015 8:17 PM in response to Master26A
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    Jun 17, 2015 8:17 PM in response to Master26A

    I have the MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014) 

    2.2 GHz Intel Core i7

    16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

    Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

     

    And I am totally frustrated with the performance. It was a a huge drop in performance from my older iMac which is 2 years older with lower specs. I am so confused what happened here. How is THIS slower and it's brand new and my iMac is maxed on space and on this new MBP I dont hardly have anything on it and it moves like a snail. Even with programs that dont use the internet, smh.   I am Very unhappy with my purchase and I have Apple EVERYTHING!!

  • by FaceTheIMAC,

    FaceTheIMAC FaceTheIMAC Jun 27, 2015 2:12 PM in response to jetoff41
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    Jun 27, 2015 2:12 PM in response to jetoff41

    Hi Jetoff41 !

     

    I could like to advise you that please check the desktop of your Mac is-it full of stuffs and icons , in most cases there are tons of cases that full of icons and app on your desktop would take up the space of the HDD , rendering the HDD performance to drop , please check for ongoing task running on your computer that might slow down the computer .. Please refrain of using vulgar words in Forums !

  • by macmonkeynate,

    macmonkeynate macmonkeynate Jul 17, 2015 5:10 AM in response to kk2485
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    Jul 17, 2015 5:10 AM in response to kk2485

    Having exactly the same issue except my MBPro-r 2014 is a refurb with GeForce 750m + Iris Pro and was delivered with Yosemite pre-installed just 2 weeks ago. VERY laggy on Photoshop CC (especially when using quick selection and liquifying layers), Illustrator GPU rendering doesn't work and crashes to display random screen artefacts (had to disable that) - indesign seems OK until you go to overprint preview then it lags (this is with preflight switched off). I use Prezi and that lags like crazy when panning between slides, Premiere Pro crashes, but this is a known CUDA acceleration driver issue. Even pages and numbers seems to lag.

     

    It also runs hot when you watch anything on youtube. This was supposed to be an upgrade from my 2012 i5 MacBook Air (8gb RAM, 500gb SSD) but if I'm honest it's the opposite - battery life on the MBPro is same as the Air (which is 3 years old now and displays battery error messages!) and CC actually runs better and DOESN'T CRASH.

     

    I've done some research into it and it would appear there's been a lot of talk about issues with GPU switching in Yosemite - I;m pretty sure there's a serious device driver f*** up that's caused this - either by Apple or Nvidia. I've done the usual repairs using Onyx, reset the SMC and PRAM but all to no avail. Console and activity monitor don't help with diagnosis. I've created a new user account to make sure mine doesn't have any errors, tested the GPUs for errors using GFX switching programs then run Heaven, the GPU temp went up to 88oC which seems a little excessive but frame rates seem good and no errors are displayed except for some visual tearing (which I've noticed it does in Photoshop).

     

    Seriously for this sort of money you'd expect it to work PERFECTLY out of the box. Really, really unhappy with how things are going over at Apple - design studios I work at are having similar issues with Yosemite on various systems but the iMacs and MacBook Pros seem worst hit. Tempted to push for a refund and spend the money on a high end Windows laptop!

  • by CT,

    CT CT Jul 17, 2015 5:23 AM in response to macmonkeynate
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    Jul 17, 2015 5:23 AM in response to macmonkeynate

    TLDR

  • by macmonkeynate,

    macmonkeynate macmonkeynate Jul 17, 2015 5:27 AM in response to CT
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    Jul 17, 2015 5:27 AM in response to CT

    Thanks, very helpful.

     

    I just thought I'd itemise all the issues and the methods attempted to rectify them in a bid to help others with the same issue. There's a lot of vague comments on here that speak nothing of the details - getting the full picture is important when you're fault finding.

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Jul 17, 2015 5:33 AM in response to macmonkeynate
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    Jul 17, 2015 5:33 AM in response to macmonkeynate

    Any problems you're having are likely to be:

    1.  Third-party software that doesn't work well with the OS.

    2. Incorrect or corrupt preferences and caches. (unlikely to have accumulated on a brand new Mac).

    3. Hardware fault.

     

    Apple tests new OSes very thoroughly -- Yosemite has had a public beta before it was released and it's now on the .4 update. IF this is a brand new Mac crashing -- take it back to the shop.

  • by tbirdvet,

    tbirdvet tbirdvet Jul 17, 2015 5:37 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Jul 17, 2015 5:37 AM in response to benwiggy

    "Apple tests new OSes very thoroughly".  Perhaps but not thorough enough which is one reason they have so many revisions.

  • by macmonkeynate,

    macmonkeynate macmonkeynate Jul 17, 2015 5:58 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Jul 17, 2015 5:58 AM in response to benwiggy

    Yes I agree

    1) Adobe Creative Cloud, Prezi, Video streaming in Safari

    2) Brand new mac, shouldn't be an issue - although have reset them all to eliminate

    3) Likely, but this is refurbished so should mean fully functional and well tested right?

     

    It's the amount of down time when running a business I could really do without - IF apple tests OS's thoroughly then why are there so many reports of there being issues with Yosemite? I know of one studio rolling back 5 macs to Mavericks as there was an issue with Firewalls and RDP/ARD - that's a LOT of downtime! Don't get me wrong, I love Apple - my entire business is built on Apple, virtually all the freelancers I work with use Apple - but the common denominator in all the issues I've seen is Yosemite.

     

    I will speak with Apple and talk them through the issues I'm having, hopefully we'll get the bottom of it. Thanks for your input.

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Jul 17, 2015 6:13 AM in response to macmonkeynate
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    Jul 17, 2015 6:13 AM in response to macmonkeynate

    You'll find people complaining about things not working after every new OS -- even, gasp! Snow Leopard. No two computers are alike: people are running all sorts of different apps, with different settings, different environments. This may be the first problem you've ever had with Macs, but I assure you that Yosemite is not especially more crappy than any other release.

    If you moved to Windows, you won't be immune from things going wrong there either.

     

    There are pages and pages that detail troubleshooting steps which you can try:

    Test a brand new user account to pinpoint whether the user domain or the system is at fault.

    Boot into Safe Mode and test there.

    Check Activity Monitor to see what third-party processes are running. Quit them and uninstall if necessary for testing.

    Remove all peripherals.

     

    Run software like EtreCheck, which is very good at pinpointing non-standard processes and potential problems.

     

    Look at the crash logs. It may look like gobbledy-gook, but you may recurring references to a certain bit of software, or OS framework. If it keeps talking about IOUSB, then it's probably something to do with a peripheral device, etc.

  • by macmonkeynate,

    macmonkeynate macmonkeynate Jul 17, 2015 6:21 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Jul 17, 2015 6:21 AM in response to benwiggy

    Thanks for the replies Ben, I've tried everything on that list apart from "EtreCheck". Will give it a whirl.

     

    I agree on your comments re. Windows - the only difference is I'm not paying the premium for hardware and the "reliability" that is supposed to come from a  dedicated OS. I'm going to install Linux and Windows boot partitions and runs some more tests when I get time - the more info I have when I go to Apple with my issues the better I think.

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Jul 17, 2015 6:31 AM in response to tbirdvet
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    Jul 17, 2015 6:31 AM in response to tbirdvet

    tbirdvet wrote:

     

    "Apple tests new OSes very thoroughly".  Perhaps but not thorough enough which is one reason they have so many revisions.

    "If you wait for all the bugs to be fixed, you'll never release any software."

  • by Cronux,

    Cronux Cronux Jul 25, 2015 9:03 PM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 25, 2015 9:03 PM in response to Zanaelf

    Could not agree more with you. I have an early 2011 MBP running Mountain Lion, and I am glad I did not upgrade the OS ever since.

    Apple needs to answer this one question, why these latest OS and iOS are such a resource hog despite of their this retro and flat GUI interface? What kind programs or services are they running under the hood? Or its just a shady business practice to force us to upgrade our hardwares every 2 years??

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 25, 2015 11:13 PM in response to Cronux
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    Jul 25, 2015 11:13 PM in response to Cronux

    Apple needs to answer this one question

     

    And then this one asks three... Do you really think that the new GUI should use less resources because it looks different? If you want to know what programs and services are running under the hood have you tried launching Activity Monitor?  Really? Force you to change hardware every two years? Macs back to 2007 can run Yosemite. Never let common sense and facts get in the way of a healthy does of paranoia. Keep on counting.

  • by Zanaelf,

    Zanaelf Zanaelf Jul 26, 2015 7:25 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 26, 2015 7:25 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    I don't know if you noticed the simpleness of GUI elements of the older operating systems which used less resources, and when they became better designed the required more resources. Yosemite has adopted the boring flat design of the 80s and early 90s, when their designs were ideal for their function at the time, because the computer was limited in what it could do. Not only Apple has adopted this regression in design in Yosemite, but it seems Microsoft moved first before Apple with windows 8. Though Apple still looks better and will always look better than windows 8 or even 10 (thats if the GUI is not reduced in over simplification) with ElCapitan. Mavericks on older machines older than 2011 runs a bit slower and with issues. I have had first experience with an old Macbook late 2009 model. Mountain Lion runs like a charm, in Mavericks it beach balls like ****. So reinstalling and testing how the operating systems ran on the device gave me  a pretty good conclusion. I don't have the old macbook to test Yosemite on it since I donated it to a friend for free, with Mountain Lion on it , but from watching reviews online it is more of a RAM hog than Mavericks.  Thats why when you you get your mac and you focus on function more than keeping up with the trends. It is recommended to keep the same OS it came as factory default with only updating with the minor updates which still require backing up on time machine before updates as the machine gets older. Which would explain why hackintoshes die while only macintoshes would get sick and beach ball the older they get. Yes a 2007 mac can run Yosemite , but how well , does it do the beach ball more often than usual ?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jul 26, 2015 7:28 AM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 26, 2015 7:28 AM in response to Zanaelf

    My 2009 MBP (8GB/SSD) boots Yosemite (button to desktop) in 18 seconds, Photoshop opens in 4 seconds, Mail and other system apps are instantaneous. Fast enough for me at least.

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