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Jul 26, 2015 10:19 AM in response to Zanaelfby Csound1,Helping someone remove Yosemite is not the same as being experienced with it.
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Jul 26, 2015 11:51 AM in response to Zanaelfby Terence Devlin,Not terribly sure what vague point you're trying to make here, but as for Yosemite being a Ram Hog, remember it uses Ram differently than previous versions, so accurate readings on effectiveness are difficult.
It is recommended to keep the same OS it came as factory default with only updating with the minor update
By who? Seriously, can you give us a reference to any serious, well known expert who recommends this? A link? Anything?
There are many reasons why a Mac might beachball, and older ones too, that have nothing to do with the OS, but which might be caused by good old fashioned wear and tear, especially on the HD.
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Jul 26, 2015 12:05 PM in response to Zanaelfby petermac87,Zanaelf wrote:
Don't want to because of my reasons, I am uncomfortable with its GUI design and would be able to do a bit less than I would do , than what I do when using Mavericks.
Yosemite is the most popular OSX ever. It is obviously popular with many many millions of their customers. Unfortunately it may be a bit too advanced for people who draw cats.
Pete
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Jul 26, 2015 2:12 PM in response to Terence Devlinby Zanaelf,Mavericks has about 4 GBs used when running system from startup, Mountain Lion about 2.5 and Yosemite about 8. For best performance minimum is 4GB for Mountain Lion, 8 GB for Mavericks and 16GB for Yosemite, thus Yosemite hogs the most memory and 16 GB would be comfortable, and 8 GB just for basic things.
These are based my my own experiences and observations. If mac beach balls after being upgraded in OS version, and never beached before, and then downgraded again, the beach balling stops it is not the wear and tear as you suspected, it is a software issue rather than a hardware issue
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Jul 26, 2015 2:14 PM in response to petermac87by Zanaelf,"too advanced for people who draw cats" ? what is your point here ? Is it not Mac OS the operating system that is the most simplest designed Operating system to do much of the tasks someone needs to do out of the box as compared with windows or linux ? Which only proves the point that OS Yosemite is more tedious than Mavericks to use for any task ?
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Jul 26, 2015 2:15 PM in response to Zanaelfby petermac87,Yosemite on 8GB RAM absolutely flies here whilst running intense Graphic and Audio programs, so I don't know where you pulled these figures from, though I have an idea.
Pete
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Jul 26, 2015 2:20 PM in response to Zanaelfby Csound1,Thank for your opinion, I'll put it with the others.
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Jul 26, 2015 2:23 PM in response to petermac87by Zanaelf,I got these figures when using the different operating systems while looking at the activity monitors of each.
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Jul 26, 2015 3:14 PM in response to Zanaelfby Terence Devlin,Bluntly, your observations are at odds with mine, and like I said, Yosemite uses Ram differently form the other two and so always reports that it is using more. An accurate comparison is impossible from a simple reading of Activity Monitor.
But I notice that you offer no support for your assertion that you should not upgrade the OS. So it's not recommended then? If that's the case why did you say it was?
Again, the notion that simply downgrading is the only reason for a lack of beachballs is simplistic at best. I've seen downgraded OSes that performed worse than the upgrade. There are so many possible causes - faulty installs, damaged hardware etc etc - that you simply do not test for, so really, like your observations about Ram, we can take them as yours alone.
Is it not Mac OS the operating system that is the most simplest designed Operating system to do much of the tasks someone needs to do out of the box as compared with windows or linux ?
On the contrary, it's the most complex, but so well designed that the complexity is hidden behind a very good interface.
Which only proves the point that OS Yosemite is more tedious than Mavericks to use for any task ?
Which does no such thing. That's not even a rational assertion, to say nothing of a logical one.
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Jul 26, 2015 4:02 PM in response to Terence Devlinby Zanaelf,I would agree then that our observations are different, well the activity monitor is a way to observe what RAM is being used and what is not, including the CPU usage. Well i have seen the opposite happen when computers have been upgraded and perform not as good as previously , and then return to better performance when downgraded.
i don't think flat design is a good interface design , and that is my opinion based on how well my cognition interacts with the interface.
It is a logical one I may say on the basis of RAM use and my cognitive responses with the interface.
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Jul 26, 2015 4:25 PM in response to Zanaelfby Csound1,How it looks is a matter of taste, and not everyone agrees with yours, any problems with less 'subjective' areas? (if you used Yosemite long enough to find out)
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Jul 26, 2015 4:26 PM in response to Zanaelfby Terence Devlin,The point is that Yosemite is designed to use all the Ram whenever possible. The earlier Oses are not so your comparison is meaningless.
That you don't like the visual space is interesting autobiography but that's all. It's a statement about you and not about the OS.
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Jul 27, 2015 8:58 PM in response to Csound1by Cronux,Even a 12 yrs old Dell Optiplex PC (P4 3Ghz) running windows 7 completes a cold boot in 12 secs or less with SSD and 2GB RAM!