Philippe Mion

Q: blurry font on yosemite

so i've upgraded to yosemite.

overall i like it, simplified and more like iOS

however the first thing that hit me is how blurry all the text is everywhere!

it's pretty awful, i'm sure it wasn't that bad with mavericks

the menu bar at the top of the screen is worse of all, i really don't understand what is going on here.it's bad and i hope it will be addressed in an update

Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.29.51.png

i think you can see from this screen shot how the web text is fairly clear whilst the menu bar is blurry

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 17, 2014 7:37 AM

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  • by MikeX3,

    MikeX3 MikeX3 Nov 21, 2014 4:48 PM in response to Philippe Mion
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    Nov 21, 2014 4:48 PM in response to Philippe Mion

    I just wanted to say I have the latest macbook pro retina 15" and since upgrading to Yosemite I see blurry text all over the place.  I feel like my eyes are messed up but other people see it too.  It's almost like there's random smudges on my screen making some text hard to see.  It's not all text, but randomly throughout.  Mostly in Safari because that's where I spend a lot of my time.  Will I be updated if a fix becomes available?

  • by crystalship,

    crystalship crystalship Nov 21, 2014 5:26 PM in response to MikeX3
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    Nov 21, 2014 5:26 PM in response to MikeX3

    Apple hasn't said ANYTHING about fixing this font problem. The next beta is out, but there is no mention of font fixes. I've already sent feedback numerous times. Please send yours in too.

  • by idan44,

    idan44 idan44 Nov 26, 2014 9:11 AM in response to Philippe Mion
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    Nov 26, 2014 9:11 AM in response to Philippe Mion

    I need to replace my really old Imac, and it will not be with another Apple product due to the unreadable font on Yosemite and lack of response from Apple.  I now use my Ipad and will be getting a Dell XPS 27 - screen resolution is fantastic and puts my Imac with Yosemite to shame. 

  • by devptdesigner,

    devptdesigner devptdesigner Dec 1, 2014 6:17 AM in response to crystalship
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    Dec 1, 2014 6:17 AM in response to crystalship

    Unbelievable that after so long after the release of yosemite a problem as this remains unresolved and there is not even any information that is being checked.

  • by JBA45,

    JBA45 JBA45 Dec 3, 2014 12:55 AM in response to devptdesigner
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    Dec 3, 2014 12:55 AM in response to devptdesigner

    Hy

    i've an imac 24" mi-2007 with yosemite, and you must use Terminal and put the AppleFontSmoothing parameter on 2 or 3 (default parameter is 1) with this line commande : "the defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 3". In my mac, the good parameter is 3. You must restart, and  after you must don't check "Use LCD font smoothing when available" otherwise you lost your personnal parameter.


    it's good for me

     

  • by yoonchan,

    yoonchan yoonchan Dec 13, 2014 6:12 AM in response to Oliver Matuschin
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    Dec 13, 2014 6:12 AM in response to Oliver Matuschin

    My problem also has gone after rebooting after setting the LCD font smoothing disabled. In my case, the issue was with the font for the menu items. When I disabled the LCD font smoothing in Preferences, it seemed the problem was not fixed. However, after rebooting my mac, my problem was perfectly fixed.

     

    I also recommend reading this article. http://osxdaily.com/2014/10/27/change-font-smoothing-text-os-x-yosemite/

  • by jthurow,

    jthurow jthurow Dec 13, 2014 6:23 AM in response to Philippe Mion
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    Dec 13, 2014 6:23 AM in response to Philippe Mion

    This is a serious problem.  I thought I was losing my sight.  I made an appointment to have my vision checked because I didn't think Apple would release such a terrible looking blurry font.  Yesterday it was confirmed my vision is great, it is just my Yosemite on iMac mid 2009 that *****. 

  • by crystalship,

    crystalship crystalship Dec 17, 2014 4:12 AM in response to jthurow
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    Dec 17, 2014 4:12 AM in response to jthurow

    I wonder how many people are getting their eyesight checked and don't realize that it's Yosemite's GUI that is causing this. It doesn't help that Yosemite has insufficient contrast in the tittle bars, ultra white everywhere, and that Helvetica Neue ultra light font is system wide so this compounds the eye strain problem. Couple in that non-retinas are affected by font rendering issues. Apple even states on their website that Yosemite is for retina displays which in reality is only a small percentage of users.

     

    iTunes 12 is a good example of this UI mishap. I'm blinded by white. The font is ultra light which makes it blurry on my non-retina display. I still can't get over how tiny the font in iTunes 12 is and I have "Large" checked in Preferences.

     

    A quick search and you'll find many tech websites offering fixes to increase legibility in Yosemite and I've gone through all of them. I've spent way too much time on this. It's about time that Apple offers a fix.

     

    For the moderators on this site.........yes, I have sent numerous feedback to Apple, but so far I'm ignored. The 10.10.2 build that is out in beta and there is no mention of the font being fixed. How much longer do we have to wait???

     

    For anyone that reads this thread, do remember your experiences with Mavericks and that you had zero problems with eye strain then.

  • by Spirosg,

    Spirosg Spirosg Dec 18, 2014 10:39 AM in response to crystalship
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    Dec 18, 2014 10:39 AM in response to crystalship

    I totally agree could not add anything!

     

    Please Apple do not forget non-Retina mac's

  • by Cristofer Cruz,

    Cristofer Cruz Cristofer Cruz Dec 18, 2014 2:37 PM in response to Spirosg
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    Dec 18, 2014 2:37 PM in response to Spirosg

    Just to be clear, this is not a font issue. It's not only the font that gets blurry it's also the menubar icons. Adjusting LCD font smoothing won't fix the issue. Simply restarting will fix the issue MOMENTARILY, but the issue will return after some time. Browsing through Open Radar seems like it may be related to bug in CoreImage... this will only be fully resolved in a patch from Apple.

     

    You can file bug reports at https://bugreport.apple.com/

  • by MacsSince1984,

    MacsSince1984 MacsSince1984 Dec 19, 2014 7:39 PM in response to Theatermax
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    Dec 19, 2014 7:39 PM in response to Theatermax

    Unfortunately it is now two months later, and it has not been fixed!

  • by idan44,

    idan44 idan44 Dec 19, 2014 9:01 PM in response to MacsSince1984
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    Dec 19, 2014 9:01 PM in response to MacsSince1984

    I only use my iPad now and will go google or windows next tine.

     

    On Friday, December 19, 2014, Apple Support Communities Updates <

  • by crystalship,

    crystalship crystalship Dec 20, 2014 5:48 AM in response to Cristofer Cruz
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    Dec 20, 2014 5:48 AM in response to Cristofer Cruz

    This is true. It does affect more than the font. Right now I'm looking at Safari, the menu bar and font is jagged, not clean crisp like Lucinda Grande system font was. A lot of the times, Apple Mail is particularly blurry in the font and menu bar. App Store is mostly unreadable with the tiny faded print. iTunes, the same.

     

    I'm noticing things like in Messages when I'm responding to a message without opening the app and the font is particularly faded and jagged looking. Recently, there was a slight tick underneath one of the characters so I'm wiping the screen, but it's still there. This is absolute craziness.

     

    Yes, restarting does fix it for a bit. Sometimes when I wake my MBP, the font appears clearer for a little while. The unfortunate thing is it does return so some who don't research this think they have eyesight problems or think their graphics card was dying out. Just great.......what a GUI mess. I had nothing like this with Mavericks. I'm so disappointed with Yosemite and the new features aren't even worth it because half the time I can't receive Airdrops to my MBP.

     

    I tried to report this to the bug report link you provided a few times, but it doesn't accept my information. I've already done feedback to Apple many times. I'm frustrated and I so regret upgrading to Yosemite. Never again will I upgrade to a new OS X.

  • by ayjaz,

    ayjaz ayjaz Jan 2, 2015 1:20 AM in response to Philippe Mion
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    Jan 2, 2015 1:20 AM in response to Philippe Mion

    I enjoy Yosemite to the fullest using Lucida Grande as System wide font with font smoothing disabled 

    (Click on screenshot go get a better idea)

    Screen Shot 2015-01-02 at 2.18.25 PM.png

  • by findik,

    findik findik Jan 2, 2015 9:05 AM in response to yann31415
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    Jan 2, 2015 9:05 AM in response to yann31415

    Yes, agreed, they did definitely went for aesthetic over readability. Look over productivity. Most likely someone just looked at the monitor and thought it looks nice, I dont think that person even tried reading/writing articles for 8 hours like us.

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