Justin Sluss

Q: Why is Yosemite showing a load bar when I boot up my Mac(s)?

So I upgraded my somewhat newer (late 2013 model) MacBook Pro Retina to "Yosemite" and it's flawless except for one little thing, a thing that is a BIGGER thing on my OLDER (mid 2011 model) Mac Mini.  Here's the problem.  This LOADING (PROGRESS) BAR:

 

On my MacBook Pro Retina I get it after my login...  It takes maybe 5 seconds.  It's no big bother or anything but it is a bit less classy and faster than before...  As seen HERE: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203308665013685&l=e27c3710e3

 

However, during the LENGTHY boot up process on my older Mac (the mid 2011 Mac Mini) I see the exact same loading bar -- except it takes a WHOLE LOT longer to pass by.  Finally I'll be waiting for my top bar with the Apple logo in the left corner to load for about 30 seconds... This is reminiscent of the systray icons to load on a Windows 98+ era PC system...  Boring and annoying to the user each time they have to boot up or even wake the Mac and login...


What gives?

 

I remember Macs booting up and loading instantaneously before on "Mavericks" and vice versa with OS X.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10), late 2013 model

Posted on Oct 17, 2014 11:54 PM

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Q: Why is Yosemite showing a load bar when I boot up my Mac(s)?

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 21, 2014 7:18 AM in response to larryy
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    Oct 21, 2014 7:18 AM in response to larryy

    larryy wrote:

     

    The progress bar at boot may be perfectly normal, but having it hang for over 8 hours at about 1/4 to 1/3 of the way, with a spinning beachball, cannot possibly be normal.  After a lot of time trying everything I could think of and 800-APL-CARE could think of, I finally erased the disk, did a clean install, at which point it booted normally, but then I allowed Migration Assistant to bring my apps, personal stuff, and network settings back from my most recent Time Machine backup, and it went right back to multi-hour hangs. 

    That's because the problem is in your previous installation, that's why it workied until you migrated it back to your new installation.

     

    Don't migrate anything except data files.

  • by guma3208,

    guma3208 guma3208 Oct 21, 2014 8:06 AM in response to Justin Sluss
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:06 AM in response to Justin Sluss

    I don't mind if there is a progress bar. My problem is it takes ages to load. With Mavericks it stared spontaneously.

  • by iTempo,

    iTempo iTempo Oct 21, 2014 8:28 AM in response to dansavol
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:28 AM in response to dansavol

    The progress bar scared me each time I saw it, and I was this close (holding index finger and thumb up about a quarter of an inch apart) to doing a fresh install.

    I think I'm just not used to any progress bar cause I've been using a Macbook with a SSD for so long, but unfortunately I'm back to a HDD.

    Thanks for the info.

  • by iTempo,

    iTempo iTempo Oct 21, 2014 8:41 AM in response to halukartan
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:41 AM in response to halukartan

    Hmm..this is weird. This is the loading bar I get BEFORE the login screen. After login I'm fine. And I wouldn't think login items would do this, as suggested to you previously. I have several login items including network drives that automatically map at login and I don't get this after logging in, I get it before.

    From everything I've read on all the forums it seems like the bar is normal. People are getting it with a grey background, black background, before login screen, on the login screen. Apparently it's the same process as Mavericks only then it was a wheel and now its a bar; and it seems to change depending on what model Mac you are on. Why change to an icon that was previously used when checking the HardDrive, usually do to a failing disc?...who knows. But I think we are all ok.

  • by iTempo,

    iTempo iTempo Oct 21, 2014 8:58 AM in response to AntWithWings
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:58 AM in response to AntWithWings

    I think you have a different problem than others in this forum. A far more annoying problem. Definitely a bummer tho, and obviously not a normal boot up process. Sounds like either a failing HardDrive, or just a bad install. I'm guessing the latter of the two. I had a bad install back with OS X Lion and had to start over with a fresh install. I would do a disk check just to make sure and if it passes which it probably will, I would do a wipe the drive and do a fresh install, which is annoying but....it technology...we're always gonna have issues. Make sure you google how to do an actual fresh/clean install and not just reinstalling if you aren't sure.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 21, 2014 10:22 AM in response to iTempo
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    Oct 21, 2014 10:22 AM in response to iTempo

    iTempo wrote:

     

    Hmm..this is weird. This is the loading bar I get BEFORE the login screen. After login I'm fine. And I wouldn't think login items would do this, as suggested to you previously. I have several login items including network drives that automatically map at login and I don't get this after logging in, I get it before.

    There are plenty of things loading before you log in, the more you have the longer it takes before the password prompt appears. If you also have a lot of user login (as opposed to system login) items you'll see another progress indicator.

  • by iTempo,

    iTempo iTempo Oct 21, 2014 10:41 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 21, 2014 10:41 AM in response to Csound1

    ..yup.

  • by larryy,

    larryy larryy Oct 21, 2014 2:12 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 21, 2014 2:12 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

    That's because the problem is in your previous installation, that's why it workied until you migrated it back to your new installation.

    Don't migrate anything except data files.

     

    Right, I assumed that, which is why I mentioned migrating system settings.  But not migrating anything except data files is not an option.  My Promise Pegasus2 RAID drive (that I bought from Apple), at a minimum, requires an extension.  So does CrashPlan.  I've been unable to find any compatibility info on extensions, and cannot spend 24 hours per attempt in a binary search to determine the culprit.  (It's also not obvious where all of the possible culprits reside, as they might be extensions in /System/Library/Extensions, /Library/Extensions, or ~/Library/Extensions, or they might be LaunchAgents or LaunchDaemons in those various places, and possibly other places I'm not aware of.  I actually did some experimenting booting into single-user mode and moving certain extensions to a disabled folder, but it didn't change anything.)  I still don't have my machine back and it's been four days now.  I'm hoping that by tonight the Mavericks restore from Time Machine will be complete and I will have use of my Mac again.  I'm not going to even consider Yosemite until the ecosystem has evolved a bit and these kinds of incompatibilities have been identified and updates provided.

     

    I worked for Apple for 19 years and installed pre-pre-pre-Alpha versions of every release of OS X that existed up until I left in 2006, but this is the first time a shipping product has failed so completely for me.  Couple this with my iPhone 6 Plus waking up locked into the wrong orientation, including both landscape and upside down, and I'm pretty disgusted with Apple right now.  Thankfully iOS 8.1 seems to have fixed the orientation problem, though I can't be certain until I've lived with it a bit longer.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 21, 2014 2:13 PM in response to larryy
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    Oct 21, 2014 2:13 PM in response to larryy

    larryy wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

    That's because the problem is in your previous installation, that's why it workied until you migrated it back to your new installation.

    Don't migrate anything except data files.

     

    Right, I assumed that, which is why I mentioned migrating system settings.  But not migrating anything except data files is not an option.

    Not the choice I would make but it's yours to make.

     

    Good luck.

  • by kevin918,

    kevin918 kevin918 Oct 21, 2014 5:19 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 21, 2014 5:19 PM in response to Csound1

    The loading bar *****. Another issue I had is there is an App in the dock quickly log off. I always couldn't see the logo when I reboot my laptop.

  • by njleach,

    njleach njleach Oct 21, 2014 5:22 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 21, 2014 5:22 PM in response to Csound1

    I did a completely clean installation of Yosemite via USB. Formatted the disk before installation etc... and still have the same slowness issue when logging on that was never present on Mavericks.

  • by Fuzzydice,

    Fuzzydice Fuzzydice Oct 22, 2014 10:49 AM in response to njleach
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    Oct 22, 2014 10:49 AM in response to njleach

    As a 2012 macbook pro owner (one with a solid state drive), the idea that OS X Yosemite's new slow log in progress bar is anything but a problem - is ridiculous.

     

    Like most similarly situated owners I bought by macbook pro with SSD and became accustomed to experiencing an almost "instant on" boot up. What an impressive feature.

     

    Why would anyone want to trade down after getting used to such an improvement? They wouldn't. Apple clearly designed this OS version inelegantly. I'm a dedicated Apple user, who expects my user experience to always be enhanced, not diminished. Is this an unrealistic goal? No, Apple created this expectation and I've paid for the privilege of enjoying it, since I bought my first Apple, a Mac SE, decades ago.

  • by gummyhoward,

    gummyhoward gummyhoward Oct 23, 2014 7:28 AM in response to Justin Sluss
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    Oct 23, 2014 7:28 AM in response to Justin Sluss

    I got that with the grey background as well.

    Besides, does anyone notice that there is a folder called "Recovered files" in the "Trash" every time?

     

    It is a bit annoying.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 23, 2014 7:38 AM in response to gummyhoward
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    Oct 23, 2014 7:38 AM in response to gummyhoward

    I saw that folder after the installation completed, haven't seen it since,

  • by Chippy99,

    Chippy99 Chippy99 Oct 23, 2014 7:52 AM in response to gummyhoward
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    Oct 23, 2014 7:52 AM in response to gummyhoward

    Besides, does anyone notice that there is a folder called "Recovered files" in the "Trash" every time

    I suspect you'll find that has something to do with Microsoft Orifice.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4962236?tstart=0

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