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Q: Yosemite: Preview Won't Manipulate or Merge PDFs

Using Yosemite 10.10 on 10-18-14 with a Macbook Pro Retina Early 2013, I can't manipulate PDFs using Preview 8.0.  The PDF is not locked, and I have full read/write permission.

 

I can open a PDF.  I can delete a page in a PDF. I can rotate a page in the PDF.  However, I CAN'T move a page from one location to another within the same PDF.  I CAN'T merge the contents of one PDF into another PDF.

 

When I try to move a page within a PDF a "hole" opens up between the pages (that slid apart to allow the page to be moved there) but the page is not moved to that location and the "hole" does not close up until the PDF is closed and reopened.  When I drag the source PDF to the desired position inside the thumbnail on the left side of the recipient PDF, the thumbnail pages slide apart and the green + appears over the icon for the source PDF confirming that I want to add the PDF in that location.  However when I release the mouse, the document springs back to its former location without being added.  Unlike in an attempted page move, however, the thumbnails slide back together.

 

I have to manipulate PDFs all the time, and if anyone can tell me what I'm (suddenly) doing wrong, I would be most appreciative.  I have Adobe Acrobat, so I can work around the problem, but Acrobat is slow and difficult to work with.  Thanks in advance.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 18, 2014 9:55 AM

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  • by peacefulvista,

    peacefulvista peacefulvista Feb 24, 2015 2:43 PM in response to Litag8r
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    Feb 24, 2015 2:43 PM in response to Litag8r

    I had trouble merging PDFs generated from a scanner on a new iMac running 10.10.2. in Preview 8.0.  I could add 3 files to the original in Thumbnail view just fine, but I couldn't save a combined file with all 4 PDFs merged into 1.

     

    I got around that by first Edit/Insert/Blank Page which seemed to turn the original single-page PDF into a "binder."  From there I could add the 3 I wanted, delete the blank page, and save as a merged file "binder."

  • by bobDfromvista,

    bobDfromvista bobDfromvista Feb 24, 2015 4:50 PM in response to Litag8r
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    Feb 24, 2015 4:50 PM in response to Litag8r

    I like PDFSuite.app.  It does numerous things.  I type up 8 page PDFs and shrink them to e-mailable size. It has other features also.

    Don't remember if I paid for it.

  • by caljim,

    caljim caljim Mar 1, 2015 7:09 PM in response to anthominati
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    Mar 1, 2015 7:09 PM in response to anthominati

    Thanks anthominati, printing to a pdf saved my combined files in a new pdf file.  Easy but unintuitive solution.

     

    For those who didn't notice his post, combine files by opening one, show the thumbnails, then just drag and drop other files that you want to include in one file.

     

    Then: File / Print and in the bottom left corner of the interface where it says PDF click the dropdown and select "Save as PDF...", select where you want to save the file and print.  The result should be all of your pages combined in one file.

  • by steffrussel,

    steffrussel steffrussel Mar 9, 2015 10:08 AM in response to Litag8r
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    Mar 9, 2015 10:08 AM in response to Litag8r

    Hi I now know how to convert images into one PDF file using Preview in Yosemite!

    So folks, lo and behold, the easiest steps of getting back our beloved function of Preview.

     

    1. Convert your first image into a PDF

    (Open Image/ Preview/ File/ Export as PDF)

    2. Open your newly created PDF

    3. Go to Edit/ Insert/ Page from File

    4. The click all the images you want to include

    5. File/ Save

     

    Viola!

  • by Hersco,

    Hersco Hersco Mar 16, 2015 10:25 AM in response to gsilas
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    Mar 16, 2015 10:25 AM in response to gsilas

    gsilas wrote:

     

    ok, so I have a workaround....

     

    1) go to FINDER, highlight all the documents you want to combine (doesn't matter is JPG or PDF or other).

    2) Right click on the highlighted files and choose "Open using Preview"

    3) Once open, choose PRINT from Preview file menu

    4) in the print drop-down box, DO NOT click PRINT, instead, towards the bottom left, click PDF and choose "SAVE AS PDF".

    5) Choose location to save to , file name, and you are done

    I tried your workaround and it succeeded to a point. Thanks.The one thing it missed was the markups that were added to some of the PDF files. I had entered some text and a few arrows on a couple of documents. Those markups were missing from the newly saved combined file. I could reenter the markups again, after combining them, but that is extra work. Also, the files must be in the exact order in the Finder that one wants them in the new document because they can not be moved by dragging them around in the thumbnail sidebar. For what it's worth, the Automator workflow here does the same thing as your workaround and has the same missing markup problem.

  • by Hersco,

    Hersco Hersco Mar 16, 2015 11:04 AM in response to Hersco
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    Mar 16, 2015 11:04 AM in response to Hersco

    UPDATE on my previous reply:

     

    After several different experiments and reading through all the posts in this thread, I learned that combining your workaround with a tip provided in the post by sjmcdonald7 solves the issue when using annotated PDF files:

     

    1. Before combining documents, export each of them via File/Export as PDF. This permanently attaches the annotations to the file.

    2. Then use your workaround or the Automator workflow linked here.

     

    The newly combined file will retain the annotations. (Note: You still won't be able to drag the pages to rearrange them after combining the files.)

     

    Too bad Apple changed the way this worked when moving from Mavericks to Yosemite.

  • by Litag8r,

    Litag8r Litag8r Mar 16, 2015 11:04 AM in response to Hersco
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    Mar 16, 2015 11:04 AM in response to Hersco

    Hersco,

     

    Thanks for the experimentation and tips!  In order to combine annotated PDFs I had tried several things including Adobe Acrobat Pro and PDFPenPro, Automator and the open all / print to PDF.  As you described, I also noted that when I annotated PDFs then tried to combine them using Automator, the annotations just went away.  Using your tip to "flatten" the annotation into the PDF before combining them solves that problem!  Strange, however, that I have been able to move pages within a PDF without a problem while you are unable to do so.

     

    Like you, I wish that Apple would just fix the problems with Preview and return it to its previous functionality.  In the interim, I have purchased PDFPenPro which does almost everything that Adobe Acrobat does (except continually crash) including OCR.  PDFPenPro combines PDFs just fine like we used to with Preview.  That being said, I will probably use your tip more often than PDFPenPro especially to keep the recipients from removing my annotations.  (Note:  My "annotations" are legal notices of the date the document was served on the other party.  Once "flattened" they become a permanent part of the PDF.)

  • by Hersco,

    Hersco Hersco Mar 16, 2015 11:06 AM in response to Litag8r
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    Mar 16, 2015 11:06 AM in response to Litag8r

    Litag8r,

    Good to know about PDFPenPro. Thanks.

  • by hakanology,

    hakanology hakanology Mar 22, 2015 1:20 PM in response to Litag8r
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    Mar 22, 2015 1:20 PM in response to Litag8r

    i found a way around.

    first, you select all the pdfs and open them in preview.

    next, you click on print.

    after that you see the pdf box down next to the question mark in the left side corner .

    you click on pdf and then on the selection save as pdf. voila, you have merged them into one.

  • by leesmac,

    leesmac leesmac Mar 25, 2015 6:56 AM in response to Litag8r
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    Mar 25, 2015 6:56 AM in response to Litag8r

    I really miss the Insert from File functionality. The menu item is now worthless and so frustrating. I too wish Mac would fix this. The change takes something that was really useful and easy and has bungled it.

  • by Matthewwfc,

    Matthewwfc Matthewwfc Apr 2, 2015 8:11 AM in response to Ariel484
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    Apr 2, 2015 8:11 AM in response to Ariel484

    Worked for me

    Help still shows merge/delete etc., should work, but its all grey'd out

    anyway's thanks

    11" Air 2010 running Yos

  • by 150403Kenneth,

    150403Kenneth 150403Kenneth Apr 3, 2015 5:28 AM in response to Litag8r
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    Apr 3, 2015 5:28 AM in response to Litag8r

    My solution was to move the files to an older machine with 10.5.8 and Preview 4.2. Everything worked just as it should. I did in five minutes what I fooled around with for an hour the previous day.

     

    My biggest problem with the new version is that the performance is inconsistent. I was able to add some pages to another pdf, but not others. Some of the pages added included highlighting, while others did not. At times, I thought an addition would fail, but Preview just required a lot of time, five minutes in one case. The addition was only about eight pages, so this was not a massive transfer. I did some multi-page transfers, and had some, but not all, of the pages transfer.

     

    None of the workarounds in this discussion worked for me. The idea of opening multiple documents at once and then printing them all as a single pdf does work, but the pages must all be in order first as they cannot be rearranged after being printed as a pdf.

     

    What surprises me is that no one from Apple is contributed to this discussion. That suggests that Apple did not intentionally disable certain features, and that Apple has not figured out what the problem is.

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Apr 3, 2015 5:34 AM in response to 150403Kenneth
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    Apr 3, 2015 5:34 AM in response to 150403Kenneth

    150403Kenneth wrote:

    What surprises me is that no one from Apple is contributed to this discussion. That suggests that Apple did not intentionally disable certain features, and that Apple has not figured out what the problem is.

    This is a COMMUNITY forum. Apple staff do not reply to posts here. It is just for users to discuss issues between themselves. Apple does have mechanisms to interact with users about bugs, but this isn't it.

  • by temporary name,

    temporary name temporary name Apr 10, 2015 8:08 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Apr 10, 2015 8:08 AM in response to benwiggy

    I just found the solution.  I didn't read the entire string so I don't know if someone else has answered this.  There is a youtube video showing the steps.  He explains it better than I could.  I was shown how to do this in my Apple one on one training but when I tried it at home, using methods similar to what I read in this string, it didn't work.  Apparently, it still can be done, but the method is totally different from how it was done earlier.

     

    Search youtube using the videos title   

     

    Combine multiple pdfs in Preview app and reduce file size Mac OS Yosmemite

  • by WebSailor,

    WebSailor WebSailor Apr 20, 2015 7:36 PM in response to steffrussel
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    Apr 20, 2015 7:36 PM in response to steffrussel

    Thanks steffrussel - This worked perfectly for me.   Now if we can get Apple to rewrite the Help pages with these instructions.   :-)

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