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Q: What is still missing in latest Pages 5.5

Has anyone put a list together of the features still missing in this latest Pages 5.5 upgrade that just came out this month with Yosemite.

 

I'm still using Pages 4.3 but would like to see if this new 5.5 has most of the features it broke in the upgrade.

 

Thanks for any links to this list.

Posted on Oct 20, 2014 10:25 AM

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  • by Tom Gewecke,

    Tom Gewecke Tom Gewecke Oct 21, 2014 3:53 PM in response to Boatfly
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    Oct 21, 2014 3:53 PM in response to Boatfly

    Boatfly wrote:

     

    Does anyone from Apple read these complaints of lost facilities that awash the Forum

     

    It is most unlikely, the forums have millions of messages.  They presumably read the feedback channel and should be paying attention to the reviews in the app store.

  • by ibjoshua,

    ibjoshua ibjoshua Oct 24, 2014 7:20 PM in response to braintoniq
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    Oct 24, 2014 7:20 PM in response to braintoniq

    Is there a comprehensive list of missing features in the new Pages and Numbers? I want to upgrade to Yosemite but I use the original Pages 4.3 and Numbers 2.3 (iWork '09) virtually every day. Can anyone tell us if it's safe to upgrade?

    I'm starting to think that I'll never be able to go with Pages 5.

  • by rogerfromnorwalk,

    rogerfromnorwalk rogerfromnorwalk Oct 25, 2014 5:10 AM in response to ibjoshua
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    Oct 25, 2014 5:10 AM in response to ibjoshua

    Yes, a consensus to the effect is building.

  • by graymc89,

    graymc89 graymc89 Oct 26, 2014 3:29 AM in response to ibjoshua
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    Oct 26, 2014 3:29 AM in response to ibjoshua

    I updated a few days ago and the only issue on Pages that I noticed - not thoroughly tested by any means! - is sharing via exporting directly to email did not work.  Otherwise seems mostly intact other than cosmetic changes.  Disappointing but small beans after last fall.

  • by enteecee,

    enteecee enteecee Oct 26, 2014 3:21 PM in response to rogerfromnorwalk
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    Oct 26, 2014 3:21 PM in response to rogerfromnorwalk

    Yeah, I think I'm with the consensus that Apple isn't going to bring Pages 5 up to snuff.  If you look at other software they've given similar treatment to (Aperture, iMovie), the new versions have not tended to regain the functionality of the old.

     

    I'm starting to wonder if this isn't an explicit but unstated strategy on Apple's part to offer some super-basic software for free, and cede the field to 3rd party developers to develop more robust applications in order to create a stronger base of developers for Mac.

     

    I really wish they'd be more transparent about their intentions in this field, though.

  • by Hirschkorn,

    Hirschkorn Hirschkorn Oct 31, 2014 9:07 AM in response to enteecee
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    Oct 31, 2014 9:07 AM in response to enteecee

    I have upgraded to Yosemite (clean install). I'm currently using Pages 4.0 — I still have the iWork 09 retail kit but, unfortunately, Apple does not provide a way to update (and not upgrade) to version 4.3. Pages 4.0 works fine on Yosemite; currently searching for a way to update it to v4.3 (copying the 4.3 app from my Time Machine archive over the 4.0 doesn't work...).

  • by Peggy,

    Peggy Peggy Oct 31, 2014 10:17 AM in response to Hirschkorn
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    Oct 31, 2014 10:17 AM in response to Hirschkorn

    You can download the standalone updater from this page.

     

    As much as Apple wants users to constantly upgrade to the latest versions of its software, they do keep older updaters available. Go to Apple's support page & click on the magnifying glass in the bar across the top & search for the updates you're looking for. It's best to be fairly specific when searching. A better way would be to use Google's advanced search, enter the update you're looking for in "this exact word or phrase:" & use support.apple.com/ as the site or domain.

  • by Hirschkorn,

    Hirschkorn Hirschkorn Oct 31, 2014 10:59 AM in response to Peggy
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    Oct 31, 2014 10:59 AM in response to Peggy

    Peggy, million thanks!

     

    PS. Get this: I even called Apple Support and I was told Apple does not support older software...

  • by Peggy,

    Peggy Peggy Nov 1, 2014 9:21 AM in response to Hirschkorn
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    Nov 1, 2014 9:21 AM in response to Hirschkorn

    Take a look at this page to see some of the very old software Apple still maintains.

  • by BobDrummer,

    BobDrummer BobDrummer Nov 2, 2014 1:29 PM in response to Peggy
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    Nov 2, 2014 1:29 PM in response to Peggy

    OMG!!! That is great Peggy!! Hah!

  • by Vaethon,

    Vaethon Vaethon Nov 2, 2014 11:29 PM in response to braintoniq
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    Nov 2, 2014 11:29 PM in response to braintoniq

    Oh lovely. I dropped by to figure out how the heck to convert a block of text into a table in Pages 5.5....  it can't be done, can it?

     

    I just might send a very pointed letter to Apple over this. Which as usual would be ignored..... 

     

    EDIT: Well... found out by accident. Convert text to table: make a new table. Copy text. Right click, paste text into table. Boom! Darn, I was really looking forward to writing a nasty letter. Still it SHOULD be easy!!

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Nov 2, 2014 11:31 PM in response to Hirschkorn
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    Nov 2, 2014 11:31 PM in response to Hirschkorn

    Hirschkorn wrote:

     

    Peggy, million thanks!

     

    PS. Get this: I even called Apple Support and I was told Apple does not support older software...

     

    Next time ask them if anyone in Support uses either Apple hardware or software. Many of them are even reading their responses off PCs. I asked one once to check something on his Mac and he had to go to another machine.

     

    Peter

  • by Virginia Garnitz,

    Virginia Garnitz Virginia Garnitz Nov 9, 2014 2:18 PM in response to Vaethon
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    Nov 9, 2014 2:18 PM in response to Vaethon

    Thankfully, getting text into a table is pretty straight forward. 

    What I seriously miss is the "table to text" feature.

    I have a table of over 10,000 rows and I need to print it. If I could convert it to text, I could have two columns and halve the number of pages required.

  • by VikingOSX,

    VikingOSX VikingOSX Nov 9, 2014 3:59 PM in response to braintoniq
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    Nov 9, 2014 3:59 PM in response to braintoniq

    The release of Pages v5.5.1 on Yosemite brought with it a means to enable backwards document compatibility with Pages v5.2.2 on Mavericks.

     

    By default, Pages v5.5.1 saves a document as a compressed archive — not a folder. There is no preferences override for this. It is this archive format that is not backwards compatible to Mavericks. However, there is now a File > Advanced > Change File Type menu hierarchy. The two choices are Single File (default archive format), and Package (folder). The first is good for non-Apple filesystems (e.g. Dropbox), and the second, a package folder, is the format that can be opened by Pages v5.2.2 on Mavericks.

     

    When creating a new document, you must first save it before the above menu is enabled. Choosing Package with an open, single file document, will convert it in-place to a package folder within Pages. Recommend you hit File > Save again for good measure.

  • by ibjoshua,

    ibjoshua ibjoshua Nov 9, 2014 8:09 PM in response to Virginia Garnitz
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    Nov 9, 2014 8:09 PM in response to Virginia Garnitz

    I usually copy and paste tables into Numbers via Textedit. Textedit in plain text mode strips tables down to tab delimited text which is then easily manipulated in Numbers before copying back to Pages.

     

    In reply to my earlier post -- I went ahead with the Yosemite upgrade and iWork '09 seems to be fine for me.

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