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Nov 16, 2014 3:30 AM in response to noremacniaiby lesliefromstockton-on-tees,Hhhi noremacnial!
are you experiencing those annoyances in iOS 8.1, slow Sarari etc, its much worse, when using this forum. Let me know if you work out how to fix them!
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Nov 16, 2014 4:08 AM in response to noremacniaiby Star Traveler,noremacniai wrote:
Hilarious!.. LOL!.. :-)...
How are you doing in your attempts at helping other users solve their problems and getting thanked with their points awarded to you? ... :-) ...
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by lesliefromstockton-on-tees,Nov 16, 2014 4:32 AM in response to lesliefromstockton-on-tees
lesliefromstockton-on-tees
Nov 16, 2014 4:32 AM
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Hi noremacniai!!
Some users appear to lead very sad lives, points? its a big world and there's lots to see and experience in the short time we are on this planet, just need my iPad to function so I can capture life rich experiences. Let me know if you make any progress, how's your life experiences going? I'm off out to climb a mountain, see friends, laugh and get away from the annoyances of this forum. Roll on 8.1.1 !
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by Star Traveler,Nov 16, 2014 4:35 AM in response to lesliefromstockton-on-tees
Star Traveler
Nov 16, 2014 4:35 AM
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Apple TVlesliefromstockton-on-tees wrote:
... how's your life experiences going? I'm off out to climb a mountain, see friends, laugh and get away from the annoyances of this forum.
LOL ... "life experiemces" as tech support solutions for iPad problems? ... :-) ...
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Nov 16, 2014 4:52 AM in response to Star Travelerby SBosze,The question no one seems to be asking is, "why should I waste hours of my time troubleshooting and trying to repair a problem that everyone seems to have out of the box?" I'm returning my new Air2 and getting an Android based tablet. The silence from Apple on these obvious issues is deafening.
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Nov 16, 2014 5:07 AM in response to SBoszeby Star Traveler,SBosze wrote:
The silence from Apple on these obvious issues is deafening.
Apple is not here on this forum ... for one thing. This is a "users helping other users" forum in that one user posts a problem, and another user posts a solution to the problem that the first user can implement himself. Apple does not comment or participate in this "users helping other users" forum.
As for the MEDIA, Apple never discusses future revisions, like any bug fixes that they may be working on. When Apple delivers solutions, they don't "talk about it" they simply DELIVER a fix in a revision.
You seem to be looking for Apple to do something (namely a press conference of some sort) which is something they never do. You're going to be waiting FOREVER if you're waiting for a news conference ... :-) ... but you won't have long of a wait if you're taking about upcoming revisions.
SBosze wrote:
The question no one seems to be asking is, "why should I waste hours of my time troubleshooting and trying to repair a problem that everyone seems to have out of the box?"
Well, for one thing everyone doesn't have a problem right out of the box. And even in this forum, with long-term users they don't all exhibit problems. There are many here who have no problem at all with iOS 8.1, and others who had initial problems, but not now, after they applied one or more of the solutions here.
AND ... for the second thing, one doesn't know ahead of time if something is easily solved and requires no fix from Apple -OR- if somethong does need a bug fix on a particular problem. You may wait and wait to only find out after weeks of waiting, that it was something easily solved by you in the first place.
Follow this procedure for a Troubleshooting Methodology ... basically reset to factory default condition -BUT- be sure to do the following methodically and also to follow the part with Apple Support!
First you want to make sure you have several backups of your data and done with a couple of "different" sources. Be sure to understand what data is backed up and what is NOT on iCloud Backup and iTunes Backup. Use a variety of methods for backup ... you might check into Dropbox, in addition to your Apple options.
Then turn off your desktop anti-virus software when using iTunes for this reset to factory default. After you do that reset, then leave your iPad in its factory default state and see how it operates then. If you encounter any problems in that factory default state, then take it to Apple Support, and let them know that you have just reset it to that state with iTunes and have not put any of your data back on and it is operating in this fashion (whatever the problem is) in that pristine state. Make sure you keep that trouble ticket number, because if it has to be escalated through Apple Support, you're going to find all communications tied in with that number. If the lower level help isn't able to help you, then escalate it to a higher level to examine the problem. Keep at it with that trouble ticket number until Apple Support arrives at a solution to that problem. Be methodical and keep at it.
On the other hand, if everything is okay with the factory default condition, then restore your backup. Some people have discovered that the problem resides in the apps or something in the restored backup. If that's the case, then it's going to be trying and difficult to find out which developer's app is causing you the problem. And ... it's true ... that a developer not following Apple's instructions and guidelines for his app can CAUSE YOU TROUBLE. This kind of thing does happen from developers, especially when a new system upgrade comes out, because some developers ignore what Apple tells them about changes coming, and what they do BREAKS SOMETHING.
This is a troubleshooting methodology that you are going through. See it through to the end.
Choosing an iOS Backup Method (Should I Use iTunes or iCloud to back up ...)
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT5262
Back up and Restore your iOS Device with iCloud or iTunes
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1766
iTunes: About iOS Backups
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4946
Create and Delete iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch Backups in iTunes
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4946
iOS: Troubleshooting Encrypted Backups
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5162
Use iTunes to Restore your iOS Device to Factory Settings
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Nov 16, 2014 5:20 AM in response to SBoszeby lesliefromstockton-on-tees,SBosze wrote "The question no one seems to be asking is, "why should I waste hours of my time troubleshooting and trying to repair a problem that everyone seems to have out of the box?" I'm returning my new Air2 and getting an Android based tablet. The silence from Apple on these obvious issues is deafening."
You are absolutely correct, the answer to your QUESTION is you shouldn't. Your solution is certainly viable.
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by Star Traveler,Nov 16, 2014 5:26 AM in response to lesliefromstockton-on-tees
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Nov 16, 2014 5:26 AM
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Apple TVlesliefromstockton-on-tees wrote:
You are absolutely correct, the answer to your QUESTION is you shouldn't. Your solution is certainly viable.
If all those users on this forum who have had their iPads fixed and running fine now ... had taken your advice, they would be still waiting right now with no iPad to use ... but ... which they ARE USING right now, with iOS 8.1 and no problems.
"THAT" (what you suggest) is not a troubleshooting methodology ... :-) ...
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Nov 16, 2014 6:12 AM in response to SBoszeby noremacniai,HI SBosze,
That's precisely the question i posited at the very begging of this thread - It's just that there is a certain member intent on prolonging the pain of users by offering bogus "solutions". I'm sure I'll now get a lengthy diatribe from said member, putting in me in my place for just saying that, but no real solution that users can come back with and say "wow that actually worked" - just sarcasm and condescension.
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Nov 16, 2014 6:17 AM in response to noremacniaiby kajjal,This is exactly what is going on, unfortunately.
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Nov 16, 2014 6:20 AM in response to noremacniaiby lesliefromstockton-on-tees,noremacnial, Well I'm still sat here over a month later with two defunct iPads, lots of time lost which shouldn't have been, one very un happy wife now resorted to a netbook of all things (another solution). Why bother if the cause of the issues appears not to be bothered. Oh, and there's that other annoying iOS 8.1 error occurring again, only whilst using this forum, very strange. Must submit feedback to Apple to see if they can fix it as well - just ignore it noremacnial, works great!!
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Nov 16, 2014 6:19 AM in response to SBoszeby kajjal,Hopefully will be resolved in the next update but people are already actively seeking out alternatives which puts more pressure on the effectiveness of the next update.
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Nov 16, 2014 6:20 AM in response to noremacniaiby Star Traveler,noremacniai wrote:
It's just that there is a certain member intent on prolonging the pain of users by offering bogus "solutions".
I hope you do know you came to a forum that has the SINGLE PURPOSE of supplying "said solutions" to other users who come here ... LOL ...
I'm sure I'll now get a lengthy diatribe from said member, putting in me in my place for just saying that, but no real solution that users can come back with and say "wow that actually worked" - just sarcasm and condescension.
WELL ... with countless users coming back to me and thanking me for a solution that worked for them ... I would say that's about all anyone needs to know ... :-) ...
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Nov 16, 2014 6:26 AM in response to kajjalby lesliefromstockton-on-tees,Lets' hope the update works!