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Q: safari iOS 8.1 freeze and slow

Hello,

i have same problems with ios 8.1 with my Ipad3. when the Google search shows me the results, the blue links does not respond when I  tap. Safari was as if frozen. I have to drag the page up or down so that the link becomes active again. Further the application is very slow. Today I tried iPad Air it was same thing !!!!

 

the problem persists since updating iOS8.0.0. I am very disappointed with Apple.

 

excuse me for my english, I am french.

iPad (3rd gen) Wi-Fi + Cellular, iOS 8, safari

Posted on Oct 20, 2014 1:23 PM

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  • by AudioVideoEditor,

    AudioVideoEditor AudioVideoEditor Nov 23, 2014 11:55 AM in response to Tomskyair
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    Nov 23, 2014 11:55 AM in response to Tomskyair

    After spending more than two hours with customer support on this I came to the realization that Apple is not going to help me with this except on terms that would burn up the clock and create frustration with no guarantee of success. I can not change Apple. If Apple choses to release a defective product and leave me with the burden of trouble shooting their mistakes that is beyond my control.

     

    I hate to see fellow posters thrashing about trying to solve this instead of enjoying their weekend. When I see someone repeatly resetting their iPad and trying new things without any gaurentee of success it gives me great pain. If someone suddenly drove over your brief case with the iPad in it  and refused to be responsible you would just accept that it is broken beyond repair and that the person who did it was not going to take ownership.

     

    if Apple helps us it will be on their own time and on their own terms. It is not fair but it is the reality.

  • by Geoff37 ,

    Geoff37 Geoff37 Nov 23, 2014 2:17 PM in response to momolorient
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    Nov 23, 2014 2:17 PM in response to momolorient

    IT is not just A5 processors, my A6 devices are also having same issues.

  • by Sturges,

    Sturges Sturges Nov 23, 2014 9:51 PM in response to momolorient
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    Nov 23, 2014 9:51 PM in response to momolorient

    Suggestion to kill Javascript in Safari is a reasonable suggestion but  doesn't do anything for our problem. Other suggestions that do not involve wiping the hard drive clean and starting over?

  • by noremacniai,

    noremacniai noremacniai Nov 24, 2014 1:22 AM in response to Sturges
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    Nov 24, 2014 1:22 AM in response to Sturges

    Agreed!

     

    But disabling JavaScript in Safari DOES restore previously speedy performance, albeit with other intolerable issues!

     

    Now, not for one second am I suggesting this as a solution, IT IS NOT, but it does, for me at least, point DIRECTLY to where this issue REALLY LIES.

  • by noremacniai,

    noremacniai noremacniai Nov 24, 2014 6:54 AM in response to Sturges
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    Nov 24, 2014 6:54 AM in response to Sturges

    And before we go down the route of blaming third party Apps which, incidentally, is something that should be caught by Apple anyway*, I factory restored my iPad through iTunes with the release of 8.1.1 - effectively making it out-of-the-box and have yet to install a single App, and guess what?, Safari is still S-L-O-W!

     

    *For the nay-sayers that will argue "Apple can't monitor every third party developer App" - I say "Have you tried submitting an App for approval?!" - It's an extremely painful, tedious, long-winded, specification intensive process, so no real excuses for Apple not to catch rogue Apps! 

  • by Tomskyair,

    Tomskyair Tomskyair Nov 24, 2014 7:19 AM in response to noremacniai
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    Nov 24, 2014 7:19 AM in response to noremacniai

    Did the same iTunes restore to a factory fresh iOS 8.1.1 with my iPad 3 and my observation is identical. Safari still is a major dog as it has serious issues with demanding websites that are loading a lot of data such as high resolution photographs and links on many websites are reacting sluggish, unconventional (e.g. no visual actuation feedback) and sometimes not at all which also points into the direction of JavaScript. Overall the iPad's performance is also still noticeably worse than under iOS 7.1.2. Adding my relatively few apps didn't cause any further deterioration so it can be safely said that iOS 8 is at the core of the problem.

     

    However having come this far matters are now pretty much completely out of end-user hands - only Apple could fix these issues; and as a previous poster remarked, they'll do it on their own time and terms if they are going to act at all. For the moment it's just "Wait and See" and living with what we still got.

  • by Robert Martin 1,

    Robert Martin 1 Robert Martin 1 Nov 24, 2014 7:50 AM in response to momolorient
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    Nov 24, 2014 7:50 AM in response to momolorient

    FWIW, my Mini seems to be back in the saddle (as does my wife's), doing what I've posted elsewhere in this link.

     

    I have Time Warner service with a Broadband Extreme account into the house (30 down, 5 up), and an Airport Extreme with an Airport Express extending the network to the other end of a long single-story house. I use custom DNS Servers as theirs seem to be suspect.

     

    There are four Macs, two iPhone 6s, one iPhone 3s (operating as an iPod), two iPad Minis, an Apple TV, and a Roku on that network. I have loaded every app back into my Mini, save Facebook. Perhaps it's a tad slower than iOS 7 was, but not much -  not enough to impact my enjoyment. Seems to be stable. An OCCASIONAL web page crashes, usually because it's loaded with animated ads and popup pleas to join, such as the Huffington Post. I have had no apps crash - and that was a common occurrence with 8.0/8.02/8.1. Cut and paste across the board is fine. I have been reticent to load Facebook back in. Seems my life is actually richer without paying so much attention to Facebook - imagine that!

     

    So, despite the fact that my own problems (and my wife's on her Mini) being solved, I've still made a point of featuring this thread in the Apple Community Lounge and been keeping that thread active to point people here. It seems that it's NOT a widespread problem. The folks in there represent a wide swath of highly active people who use Apple's products (as well as an Apple moderator) and I was surprised to see how many were unaware of these issues and responded that all was well, particularly after 8.1.1. So, whatever is going on would appear to be more micro than macro.

     

    The point of this post is that this doesn't appear to be epidemic, but it's still an issue. With Sturges singling out a specific WiFi provider vs Apple (even though his other stuff works fine), I thought that MAY be a possible avenue to explore.

     

    I guess all we CAN do is relate our own experiences and hope that there are others who can be aided by them and hope that we/Apple discovers what the issues are with this subset of iOS8 users as soon as humanly possible.

     

    Bob

  • by noremacniai,

    noremacniai noremacniai Nov 24, 2014 8:42 AM in response to Tomskyair
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    Nov 24, 2014 8:42 AM in response to Tomskyair

    You're right - "For the moment it's just "Wait and See" and living with what we still got."

  • by Robert Martin 1,

    Robert Martin 1 Robert Martin 1 Nov 24, 2014 8:49 AM in response to noremacniai
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    Nov 24, 2014 8:49 AM in response to noremacniai

    I am doing what I can. To borrow a phrase from the 90s, "I feel your pain." Primarily, cuz I was in the same pain and cursing up a storm a few short weeks ago.

    I am in the fortunate position of having amassed a bunch of points years ago. I'd forgotten about the Lounge until I saw it mentioned by that guy who's the point strumpet. I figure I'll put 'em to good use in trying to help with what's going on here. Just keep posting anything you learn in this thread as it IS on the radar.

     

    Bob

  • by noremacniai,

    noremacniai noremacniai Nov 24, 2014 8:54 AM in response to Robert Martin 1
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    Nov 24, 2014 8:54 AM in response to Robert Martin 1

    Truly appreciate all your efforts Bob - Truly!

     

    My concern is that those of us who are suffering are being marginalised by a "Emperor's New Clothes" mindset, and that Apple will go along with the crowd because it serves them best.

  • by Robert Martin 1,

    Robert Martin 1 Robert Martin 1 Nov 24, 2014 8:52 AM in response to noremacniai
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    Nov 24, 2014 8:52 AM in response to noremacniai

    I hope not. I know it's a continual game of Whack A Mole for them. But they don't ever ignore anything, despite the fact that they don't acknowledge anything. They really do take all of this to heart - or so has been my experience before Jobs came back, during his tenure and post Steve. The company has not changed. They really do want to be insanely great. They just have their own way of going about it. And that's my experience - not just me being a fanboy.

     

    Bob

  • by noremacniai,

    noremacniai noremacniai Nov 24, 2014 8:56 AM in response to Robert Martin 1
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    Nov 24, 2014 8:56 AM in response to Robert Martin 1

    Cheers Bob,

     

    That's all we can hope for.

     

    Best,

    noremacniai

  • by Geoff37 ,

    Geoff37 Geoff37 Nov 25, 2014 11:15 PM in response to momolorient
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    Nov 25, 2014 11:15 PM in response to momolorient
  • by Jeff 12,

    Jeff 12 Jeff 12 Nov 26, 2014 2:55 AM in response to Geoff37
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    Nov 26, 2014 2:55 AM in response to Geoff37

    Works good here, iPad 4 iOS 8.1.1 Javascript is ON

     

    But I'm not logged in. Try to logout, sometimes it may help because when the website recognize you it may try to load your account and preferences and bunch of stuff.

     

    I also have a couple settings turned OFF :

     

    Safari:

    - spotlight suggestions

    - quick website search

    - preload top hit

     

    Keyboard:

    - auto-correction

    - predictive

    - dictation

     

    All of those settings are enabled by default if I remember correctly, Siri is also turned off. I turned off all of them because like everyone else here my iPad was close to be used as a freezbe and I tried to turn off where I think the juice can go. My iPas seem to work great, maybe I'm lucky... But if I could send me a message back in time, it would be : "DO NOT UPDATE TO iOS 8".

     

    My 2 cents on those rogue apps (facebook), it should be the job of the OS to manage the memory usage and to prevent unauthorized access to protected zone.

  • by Robert Martin 1,

    Robert Martin 1 Robert Martin 1 Nov 26, 2014 5:24 AM in response to Jeff 12
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    Nov 26, 2014 5:24 AM in response to Jeff 12

    Good, and great advice.

     

    I agree with you about the OS. But progammers are like hackers - they look for and share ways to get an advantage, often with memory manipulation techniques that 'borrow' temporarily unused memory to bloat their feature set or make themselves run faster. Or worse, take that memory from the OS, crippling the OS. When they are found, Apple comes along and makes those illegal calls not work any more and then it is up to the app developer to make their product work again. Now picture that happening multiplied by the number of lines of code times the number of apps times the number of ways they can interact. The number is in the stratosphere. I am not saying that's what is happening here, but picture an app like Facebook expecting to use memory that was previously reserved for the system. It's now locked out and the app has to figure out how to run in a crippled mode. If developers played by the rules, including Apple, all would be well.

     

    My personal way of dealing with it is to delete offending apps when they mess with me. This iOS update was brutal. And still is for many.

     

    Yes, the best course of action would have been to not upgrade and lock your device into iOS 7 permanently. Apple won't be going backwards, and neither will the app developers. At least you'd have a device that works with whatever was on it when you decided not to upgrade anymore. Then when you finally retired it to get all the new features of a more modern OS and hardware, it would be amazing. It's what I have done with my Macs, for the most part and it has worked just fine.

     

    bob

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