RoshBaby2

Q: Why do my SMTP/IMAP/POP servers keep going offline in OS X Yosemite Mail app?

I have a MacBook Pro from summer of 2011 and just upgraded to OS X Yosemite. Now my Mail app keeps taking the servers offline randomly and keeps it can't reconnect. I can fix it by quitting the app, shutting my computer, and then opening it and restarting the app, but if someone has a permanent fix that would be much appreciated.

 

I've gone into the accounts and made sure the information was correct, reentered it, etc. And I think the port numbers are correct (I changed them but that didn't help anything). I've also repaired my Keychain because that seemed to cause problems in previous OS versions.

 

Everything else on my computer still logs in and accepts the passwords (so far), it's just the Mail app that broke. And it was working great until I upgraded to Yosemite.

 

Thanks!

MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 21, 2014 8:04 AM

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Q: Why do my SMTP/IMAP/POP servers keep going offline in OS X Yosemite Mail app?

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  • by threeofseven,

    threeofseven threeofseven Dec 17, 2014 5:17 PM in response to zurent
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    Dec 17, 2014 5:17 PM in response to zurent

    I have gone through every post and tried every recommendation...changing the outgoing port to 465 worked! I was able to keep everything else the same, but did have to enter my password again after changing the port number. Thank you!!

  • by Jeff Kash,

    Jeff Kash Jeff Kash Dec 21, 2014 10:51 AM in response to RoshBaby2
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    Dec 21, 2014 10:51 AM in response to RoshBaby2

    I solved my Mail issues by not using it anymore until Apple fixes it. I have downloaded Thunderbird and  no longer have a problem sending or receiving emails. I don't like the layout as much as Mac Mail, but I am willing to live with it because it works.

  • by threesixty,

    threesixty threesixty Dec 22, 2014 4:49 PM in response to RoshBaby2
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    Dec 22, 2014 4:49 PM in response to RoshBaby2

    I have similar headaches on my company POP account since "Side-grading" to Yosemite on my laptop.

     

    I have unchecked "Automatically detect and maintain account settings", but my account still keeps going offline.

     

    Strangely - sometimes I still get mail for brief periods on the account when the "Offline" badge is showing.

     

    It's not a password issue - connection doctor does not say password is rejected. It says account settings are wrong.

     

    My Mail on my 2013 iMac, which is running Mavericks, is running fine with the same settings.

     

    At this point, the Yosemite Mail app is unusable, which means the OS is unusable.

  • by manofdogz,

    manofdogz manofdogz Jan 5, 2015 6:52 AM in response to threeofseven
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    Jan 5, 2015 6:52 AM in response to threeofseven

    465 is the correct SMTP port for SSL secure email. A further bug I have found however is that Apple Mail keeps changing the port setting to 25. I set it to 465 and all is well for a while then for no obvious reason, the outgoing server goes offline and when I check, the port is changed to 25. As soon as I put it back to 465 it is OK.  I would like to know how this change is triggered

  • by Spenco44,

    Spenco44 Spenco44 Jan 20, 2015 8:25 AM in response to manofdogz
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    Jan 20, 2015 8:25 AM in response to manofdogz

    for what it is worth my gmail account is permanently offline showing incorrect password or user name. I have tried every single one of the suggestions and not one works. This is also the case with my orange.net account. I have updated to Yosemite and all worked well  until about two days ago.Works ok on my iPhone5s but not on my iMac or laptop.

    I love all things apple but this is starting to really annoy me.

    Tried to contact apple but they want to charge and gmail help is useless.

  • by threesixty,

    threesixty threesixty Jan 20, 2015 9:12 AM in response to Spenco44
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    Jan 20, 2015 9:12 AM in response to Spenco44

    Maybe I can help -

    We went through the mail **** when we first switched to Yosemite and are now up and running again reliably.

    Your problem may be different, but it's worth a try.

     

    Our solution was:

    Turn of the auto-settings features in Mail.

    Contact service provider and return settings to their recommended settings.

    Check with service provider that your IP is not locked out.

     

    For those insterested, here's how the whole mess happened in the first place:

    1. Mail's two auto-settings features caused an initial failure to connect to our mail server.

    2. We then went through a number attempts to troubleshoot and finally our service provider noted that the auto-settings features in Mail had set the wrong settings.

    3. We turned off both auto-setting features and returned the settings to the correct ones.

    4. But the server had interpreted our repeated failed attempts to log on to our server as a malicious attack and had locked out our IP address.

    5. Once we had our provider unlock our IP and returned our settings to what they were before Mail had fudged them, everything was ok again.

     

    We had done diagnostics with a Level 2 Apple tech and he was unable to solve the issue, and suggested our provider needed a software update, and that the problem was not caused by Mail. As you can see, we found later that this was not the case - the problem was triggered by Mail's failure to set settings correctly and then compounded by the lockout by the server.

  • by BajanApple,

    BajanApple BajanApple Jan 23, 2015 4:16 AM in response to RoshBaby2
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    Jan 23, 2015 4:16 AM in response to RoshBaby2

    Please click the link below to resolve this problem. Yahoo mail in Apple mail requires an app specific password in order to function normally.

     

    Kind regards

     

    Anthony

     

    https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-account/generate-separate-quotapp-passwordquot-s ln15241.html

  • by emaccame,

    emaccame emaccame Feb 1, 2015 6:05 AM in response to RoshBaby2
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    Feb 1, 2015 6:05 AM in response to RoshBaby2

    I struggled with the same problem using OS X 10.9.5. It has happened twice now for no apparent reason. My outgoing SMTP server continued to stay "offline". I could receive mail, but not sent mail out.  Here's the solution that worked for me (the others posted did not).

     

    Go to the account in Mail Preferences

    Go to the "Account Information" tab

    At the bottom of that screen you will see "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP):"

    Click on the drop down menu and at the bottom of the list you will see "Edit SMTP Server List", click that

    On the screen that comes up is a checkbox for "Use Secure Layer (SSL)"

    This box was checked, but when I unchecked it, my outgoing mail server went online and I could once again send mail out.

     

    I have no idea how this box got checked by itself, but this was the same root cause the last time I had the problem.

     

    The other setting on this screen were as follows (I did not need to change these, by the way)

    "Use default ports (25, 465, 587)" was selected

    For "Authentication", Password was selected

    For "User Name" my primary ISP email address was present

    For "Password" the password for my primary ISP email address was present

     

    Hope this helps.

  • by bobdobelina,

    bobdobelina bobdobelina Feb 6, 2015 1:08 PM in response to RoshBaby2
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    Feb 6, 2015 1:08 PM in response to RoshBaby2

    I believe the problem is SSL. If the server your mail is hosted doesn't have an SSL certificate then Apple Mail won't work for you anymore. I have a client that has a number of mailboxes on his Mac. Only one of them is hosted by me and this is the only one not working.

     

    If you try ticking the SSL box it might work for a while but then it will constantly ask you to verify the certificate and won't send.

     

    I'm losing faith in Apple.

  • by bobdobelina,

    bobdobelina bobdobelina Feb 6, 2015 1:10 PM in response to bobdobelina
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    Feb 6, 2015 1:10 PM in response to bobdobelina

    I now have the choice of installing an SSL on my server and having to tell all my clients to tick the SSL box, or tell the small number of Apple Mail users that they need to switch to Thunderbird.

  • by joseespinoza84,

    joseespinoza84 joseespinoza84 Feb 20, 2015 2:08 PM in response to RoshBaby2
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    Feb 20, 2015 2:08 PM in response to RoshBaby2

    SOLVED. I signed on mz google account on myaccount.google.com and turn on the "acces for less secure apps" to -allow- and inmediatelz solved the problem.

    Hope this solves zours too.

  • by Drieu,

    Drieu Drieu Feb 27, 2015 8:04 AM in response to photosolve
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    Feb 27, 2015 8:04 AM in response to photosolve

    This actually worked for me also, thanks for the suggestion. I have been waging war on this problem for ages. It is just my wife's MacBook 13 Aluminium Late08 which has the problem, my MacPro talks to the SMTP server okay. Apple have really lost the plot so far as design is concerned; it is a complete mess. Especially if you factor in setting up the accounts on the iPhones and iPads as well. Our ISP's smtp server requires that we have password authentication, no SSL and insecure authorisation enabled. On my computer, when setting up for the SMTP server I can do this without any trouble. On my wife's machine (both have OS X 10.10) in the same SMTP set up dialogue it is identical except there is no "Allow insecure authentication" tick box and it is only in that detail that our set ups differ but it is this which means I can send mails and she cannot. We both have the aia box ticked in the IMAP part of the Advanced tab for each account. It is bizarre and frustrating. So I hope the random change to MD5 etc. provides a lasting solution. I am sceptical, in the same way I am about mechanics who lift the bonnet and just wiggle things but maybe they get lucky too. I fully expect it all to break next time there is an update but, for now, we can work again!

  • by cromdubh,

    cromdubh cromdubh Mar 6, 2015 3:17 AM in response to W.W London
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    Mar 6, 2015 3:17 AM in response to W.W London

    That worked for me. Thank you!

  • by Guy Arm,

    Guy Arm Guy Arm Mar 13, 2015 12:23 AM in response to RoshBaby2
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    Mar 13, 2015 12:23 AM in response to RoshBaby2

    I think this for me is related to the whole "wifi issues in Yosemite" problem. I upgraded my MBP 2011 and iMac 2014 to Yosemite immediately. I haven't had a single problem with MBP but iMac has been a fiasco. I associated this to the bluetooth issue whereby I have bluetooth keyboard and trackpad on iMac but not MBP. With iMac until the last patch my wifi would drop out every 15-30 mins and I had to turn wifi off and on to fix it. I tried all the published fixes but none worked. At the same time Mail on my iMac had the dropping out/going offline issue as frequently. Yosemite 10.10.2 mainly fixed the wifi issue but Mail drops out still and the easiest way to fix is literally turn wifi off and on and within 30 secs all mail accounts are online again. Many others by the sounds still have major wifi issues with 10.10.2 I guess we wait for the next version. Frustrating to the extreme to be 100% diplomatic. To watch the Apple keynote the other day going on about "it works" and "beautiful products" knowing that they all know they are literally shipping new product with major wifi deficiencies is galling. All my gear incl router is Mac so no excuses. Anyone else have the same experience?

  • by NorwalkMacUser,

    NorwalkMacUser NorwalkMacUser Mar 17, 2015 9:08 AM in response to pullober
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    Mar 17, 2015 9:08 AM in response to pullober

    Pullober -

     

    THANK YOU!!!! I have tried everything else and changing the DNS did the trick immediately.

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