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Q: Messages says Not Delivered

On my Mac running Yosemite when I open up Messages and choose a contact (a one that has imessage enabled and I can message with via my phone) to send the message to and I click send I get an instant (less than a second) feedback that it was not delivered.

 

In the console I see right after I send


21/10/14 14:40:35,703 imagent[240]: [Warning] Request to send message: IMMessageItem[outgoing: YES sender=(null); service=iMessage; handle=secretEmailAddressThatIChanged; unformatted=(null); country=(null); roomName='(null)'; flags=100005; subject='<< Message Not Loggable >>' text='<< Message Not Loggable >>' messageID: 47 GUID:'F563CCF5-3A9C-4C89-9F8F-167D0131949E' date:'435584435.000000' date-delivered:'0.000000' date-read:'0.000000' date-played:'0.000000' transfer guids: '(null)' empty: NO finished: YES sent: NO read: NO delivered: NO audio: NO played: NO from-me: YES DD results: NO DD Scanned: YES Downgraded: NO emote: NO expirable: NO expire-state: 0 error: 0] to chat: IMDChat: 0x7fed82c76520 GUID: iMessage;-;secretEmailAddressThatIChanged Style: - State: 3 Participants: (

    "[IMDHandle: <secretEmailAddressThatIChanged:(null):(null)>]"

)  Room Name: (null)  Display Name: (null)  Identifier: secretEmailAddressThatIChanged  Unread count: 0  Row ID: 3  Group ID: 9B5305DB-4938-49A0-9129-F3313E82B731  from NIL ID  fromAccount: IDSAccount: 0x7fed82d216e0 [Service: com.apple.madrid  User: myEmailAddress  ID: B7B7962F-E5DE-4991-BB89-F4498794132A  Type: Apple ID  Active: YES  Registration Status: Registered]

and also


22/10/14 12:28:59,428 imagent[240]: [Warning] Group message controler failed to prepare chat: IMDChat: 0x7fed82c76520 GUID: iMessage;-;secretEmailAddressThatIChanged Style: - State: 3 Participants: (

    "[IMDHandle: <secretEmailAddressThatIChanged:(null):(null)>]"

)  Room Name: (null)  Display Name: (null)  Identifier: secretEmailAddressThatIChanged  Unread count: 0  Row ID: 3  Group ID: 9B5305DB-4938-49A0-9129-F3313E82B731  error: 4

 

I have tried the following things to get this fixed but without any success:

  • Deleting ~/Library/Messages and restarting
  • Signing out on all devices including my mac
  • Making sure timezone is correct and resetting it to trigger an update
  • Making sure all devices have the same list of email addresses

 

Any ideas how to get messages working on my mac?

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 22, 2014 3:03 AM

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  • by rh10023,

    rh10023 rh10023 Nov 14, 2014 4:42 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Nov 14, 2014 4:42 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    I think you might have something here.  It might be that my Macbook Air is having problems logging on to the iMessages server.  Every so often (the frequency is difficult to document) when I boot my MBA, I get prompts to log into iCloud and FaceTime.  Both apps I type in my password and the dialog pops up a second then I type in my password and it goes away.  I am not confident that the login is successful, but there isn't a message saying that it was unsuccessful nor does it confirm that I was successful.  Looked at the plist in Xcode and the entries are identical.  I shutdown my iMac.  Rebooted my MBA.  Still have the same problem on the MBA.

     

    Looks like I have no sync with iMessage for SMS or iMessage content on my MBA. 

     

    Now my iPad can't send or receive SMS texts.  iMessage content still syncs.

     

    I am not sure what I can do now.  I suspect something is going on with the server.  I think I am going to change passwords.  I use two factor, but I am going to change.

  • by rh10023,

    rh10023 rh10023 Nov 14, 2014 5:00 PM in response to rh10023
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    Nov 14, 2014 5:00 PM in response to rh10023

    Changed my password on the Apple system.  No dice, everything is still broken.  Something must be corrupted or wrong at the server end.  Just wish I had visibility to it.

  • by rh10023,

    rh10023 rh10023 Nov 15, 2014 6:42 AM in response to toomasr
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    Nov 15, 2014 6:42 AM in response to toomasr

    I think in my case things are getting worse.  Now the repeated prompts to log in to FaceTime and iMessages are occurring not only on my MBA but on my iPhone 5S and my iPad Air.  I believe something is really dorked up on my iCloud.com account.  Now I just need to wait and hope that this becomes a systemic problem.  Since, there is no way of getting support from Apple on the server end. 

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Nov 15, 2014 12:21 PM in response to rh10023
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    Nov 15, 2014 12:21 PM in response to rh10023

    Hi,

     

    Call Apple Support. Sorting out Account issue is free.

     

    Having said that Level 1 support people  are generally Script led and not all will know of the issues that some people are having logging in to the iMessages servers.  (Generally they are looking for Software or Hardware issues that can generate charges. or be handled by existing Apple Care).

     

    If you have problems ask to speak to a Level 2 person.  These tend to be more knowledgeable about the oddities in certain areas.

     

    There is in fact an error that can be seen in Messages with and error screen about the account not being able to Log in so there are precedents.

     

     

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    8:21 pm      Saturday; November 15, 2014

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by Robowen5mac,

    Robowen5mac Robowen5mac Nov 16, 2014 2:05 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Nov 16, 2014 2:05 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Don't know if it helps, but I am not seeing the intermittent login problems, but am still having the issues with iMessage and FaceTime. At the moment, my mac running 10.10 believes that I am logged into the iMessaging/Facetime servers and does not keep prompting for me to log in again. The plist file appears to be fine and deleting any of the pref files or restarting the any of the services, does not have an effect.  I have tried multiple different AppleIDs on this computer to no avail. However, my primary AppleID works just fine on a 10.9 computer and on my iPad and iPhone, it is just my 10.10 machine that is having issues. I have not tried to get in touch with Apple Support yet, but I am guessing that is my next best step unless anyone has any other issues.

     

    Rob

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Nov 16, 2014 2:11 PM in response to Robowen5mac
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    Nov 16, 2014 2:11 PM in response to Robowen5mac

    Hi,

     

    From later Messages 7 version in Mountain Lion through Mavericks and into Yosemite with their various version of Messages 8 have come several issues that do seem Account based but also seem linked to one Mac.

     

    This led by this error messages can be Mac specific (most people can only compare it to iOS devices though).

    Apple ID.png

    It seems there are also similar issues where you cannot tell (at any point) whether the iMessages account is really logged in  but you get a range of different issues that do look like they are account based.

     

    I would Contact Support.

     

     

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    10:11 pm      Sunday; November 16, 2014

     

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     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by rh10023,Helpful

    rh10023 rh10023 Nov 21, 2014 6:23 PM in response to toomasr
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    Nov 21, 2014 6:23 PM in response to toomasr

    Got sometime today to call Apple Support.  I happen to have bought Apple Care for my Macbook Air, so I really did not have a problem getting though.  I think I read in one of the posts here to create a separate account on the Mac then log into Messages from there.  That is what the Senior Technician did and then he knew what he needed to do but needed to escalate to engineering first.  The Sr Tech called me back and told me that I am experiencing a problem that existed in Mavericks and Yosemite was suppose to fix this.  But they are seeing reports where some users are experiencing this problem.  So here is the fix that the tech walked me through.

     

    1) Open Key Chain Access

    2) Select Login at the top left side

    3) Select All Items on the lower left side

    4) Search for entries of IDS.

    5) Highlight and delete all entries that has IDS. (For me I am going to need to re-install my RSA SecurID Software Token)

    6) Search for entries of FaceTime

    7) Highlight and delete all entries of FaceTime

    8) Search for entries of Messages

    9) Highlight and delete all entries of Messages

     

    Basically I had a "corrupt" KeyChain Access data entries (or something like that).  I am able to get Messages working again.

     

    The tech told me he was going to log my case with engineering.

     

    Now without a technician on the phone I would be personally leery of doing this myself, because I do not have a deep understanding of the Yosemite operating system.

     

    If you are able I would recommend that you log a call with Apple Support so that they are able to log the number of Yosemite users that are running into the problem.  I am not sure if this will solve everyone's situation with Messages that we have in this thread. 

     

    If not have a good backup of your Mac.

     

    Good luck.

     

    I thought I would share my situation.

  • by toomasr,

    toomasr toomasr Nov 22, 2014 1:39 AM in response to rh10023
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    Nov 22, 2014 1:39 AM in response to rh10023

    rh10024 - I think this solution makes the most sense to me. I was too trigger happy and reinstalled my system and got everything working in the end. Of course after I restored from my backup it didn't work again. Then I tried deleting ~/Library/Preferences and ~/Library/Messages until I had to delete ~/Library to get Messages working. So later on I just did a clean re-re-install and been doing a selective backup restoration. I wish I could have read your post a week ago.

     

    Big thanks to everyone who contributed!

  • by Robowen5mac,

    Robowen5mac Robowen5mac Nov 22, 2014 4:25 AM in response to toomasr
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    Nov 22, 2014 4:25 AM in response to toomasr

    rh10024's response also helped me. I tried the specific steps outlined above, but that didn't quite get things working. So I went a bit more nuclear and removed my keychain file and all my iMessaging/Facetime related preferences and any pref files that contained the string IDS. After a restart, everything is now working. I am guessing there is an intermediate solution here, but in my case I knew I could rebuild anything I lost in my keychain, so just went with the approach of getting it working.

  • by rh10023,

    rh10023 rh10023 Nov 22, 2014 6:54 AM in response to toomasr
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    Nov 22, 2014 6:54 AM in response to toomasr

    Robowen5mac, reading through your post, I think I forgot to mention that during process of deleting the entries in Keychain Access, I was signed out of iCloud, Messages and FaceTime.  (I also had problems being able to dial phone numbers with FaceTime on Yosemite.

     

    rh10023

  • by Robowen5mac,

    Robowen5mac Robowen5mac Nov 22, 2014 7:01 AM in response to rh10023
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    Nov 22, 2014 7:01 AM in response to rh10023

    Thanks for following up....I am guessing that was the main step I missed, but since I was feeling impatient, I just went a bit heavy handed in my case.

     

    Can you go back and edit your response and add that bit to the start of the suggested fix? That would help anyone else that goes down the road of trying to fix it themselves.

     

    Thanks again.

     

    R

  • by rh10023,

    rh10023 rh10023 Nov 23, 2014 3:11 PM in response to Robowen5mac
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    Nov 23, 2014 3:11 PM in response to Robowen5mac

    I tried to edit my post, but I could not find the function in discussions.apple.com that allows me to edit my post.  Is there some special place that I can do this?

  • by Robowen5mac,

    Robowen5mac Robowen5mac Nov 24, 2014 11:26 AM in response to rh10023
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    Nov 24, 2014 11:26 AM in response to rh10023

    Sorry...my apologies, I don't see it either. I have not posted here much, but had remembered an option to edit right after I posted some of my messages. Looks like that is only an option for a limited time.

     

    Sorry for any confusion.

     

    Thanks

    R

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Nov 24, 2014 12:56 PM in response to rh10023
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    Nov 24, 2014 12:56 PM in response to rh10023

    Posts can be edited but it is time Limited to 15 mins.

     

    The link to do so appears bottom right of the Post.

     

    You get told if you left the window open and the time limit has been exceeded when you go to use it.

     

    Edit:

    Post with pic

    Edit_option.png

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    8:55 PM      Monday; November 24, 2014

     

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     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by kazz_11,

    kazz_11 kazz_11 Dec 1, 2014 12:26 AM in response to rh10023
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    Dec 1, 2014 12:26 AM in response to rh10023

    @ rh10023 This worked for me too. Thank you for posting this.

     

    - I had been struggling to get iMessage/Facetime to work reliably on my 2009 iMac since Mavericks (now Yosemite).

    - it seems I also had a corrupted Key Chain data related to my iMessage/Facetime.


    I followed everything here that rh10023 described:

     

    1) Open Key Chain Access ( go to Applications>Utilities)

    2) Select Login at the top left side under Keychains

    3) Select All Items on the lower left side under Category

    4) Search for entries of IDS.

    5) Highlight and delete all entries that has IDS.

    6) Search for entries of FaceTime

    7) Highlight and delete all entries of FaceTime

    8) Search for entries of Messages

    9) Highlight and delete all entries of Messages

    10) Reboot!


    Thanks again! It works!


    kazz_11

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