How to: Force-sync a first generation Apple TV with iTunes 12

For anyone else out there who's still using a first generation Apple TV and iTunes 12 and realized there's no longer an option to "force" the device to sync, I have a work around.


Background

With my first generation Apple TV, I "manually" manage the content stored on the device. As well, I don't add content movie-by-movie (song-by-song, etc.). Instead, I have three playlists (Movies, TV Shows, and Music) that I then sync to the Apple TV. The problem is, even pre-iTunes 12, modifying the content of a playlist didn't trigger iTunes to offer to "sync" the device (I don't think it was smart enough to deal with the EOL first generation Apple TV in terms of playlist content changes). But, at least with pre-iTunes 12, you were able to right-click on the device in the sidebar and this would bring up a contextual message with "Sync" as one of the options. So, even though the "Sync" option was greyed-out in the main iTunes window, you could still initiate the sync via the contextual menu (thus "force syncing" the device with iTunes). But, with iTunes 12, this contextual menu has been removed (right clicking does nothing) and thus the ability to "force sync" is gone.


Solution

After trying many different options to get the first generation Apple TV to sync with iTunes (after updating the content of a synced playlist), this is the only solution I've come up with that works:


1. Create a playlist called "ATV Force Sync".


2. Put a single movie in the playlist (I used a short, 10 second video, but I'm sure you could also use a song or any other media—just use something that is short and you don't care if it's on or off the device).


3. To "force sync" the Apple TV, iTunes > Apple TV > Settings > Movies > Sync Playlist, check the checkbox beside the "ATV Force Sync" playlist. This will then enable the Sync"button and you can now force the Apple TV to sync with iTunes (it'll sync the "ATV Force Sync" playlist, but also sync any changes to any other playlist the Apple TV is set to sync with). Then, the next time you want to force sync (i.e., if you've updated the content in a playlist you want to sync), just uncheck the checkbox beside the "ATV Force Sync" playlist, and the Sync button will be enabled again (and so on, enabling/disabling the "ATV Force Sync" every time you want to force-sync the device).


Anyway, it's not an ideal solution, but at least it works. I've filed a bug report with Apple, but let's be honest, I don't think supporting the first generation Apple TV is on their "to do" list anymore. <G>


Hope this helps someone else out there!

Kristin.

Posted on Oct 23, 2014 6:31 AM

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Posted on Nov 5, 2014 4:34 AM

Hi Kristin,


I have been searching for a solution to the same problem for a while, and just stumbled across your post. Funnily enough, while I was preparing to use your workaround, I stumbled upon something else... in iTunes 12.0.1.26, go to File > Devices > Sync "Apple TV"... this forces the sync that we so much need to do from time to time!


I certainly couldn't find that before, but can't confirm if it's a new addition or just me being blind since iTunes 12 came out.


Kind Regards,

Garry

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Nov 5, 2014 4:34 AM in response to kristin.

Hi Kristin,


I have been searching for a solution to the same problem for a while, and just stumbled across your post. Funnily enough, while I was preparing to use your workaround, I stumbled upon something else... in iTunes 12.0.1.26, go to File > Devices > Sync "Apple TV"... this forces the sync that we so much need to do from time to time!


I certainly couldn't find that before, but can't confirm if it's a new addition or just me being blind since iTunes 12 came out.


Kind Regards,

Garry

Nov 25, 2014 8:45 AM in response to minjak

Hi minjak—I'll see if I can help?

Has the Apple TV ever been connected to iTunes at all (on that, or another computer)? From the sounds of it, the ATV has already been "paired" with an iTunes library, thus it's not (and won't) show up in your current version of iTunes.

So, here's what I'd suggest. On your Apple TV, do the following…

Go to Settings > Computers > Select iTunes Library (or something like that—I don't remember 100% what the option is called as I don't have the screen in front of me right now) and select "Disconnect".

This should remove and "synced" or "paired" computer (iTunes) from your ATV.

Then, re-sync it back up to your version of iTunes. You have to do something like this…

On your ATV, go to Settings > Computers > Connect to iTunes and a passcode should display on your screen. Then, go to iTunes, and the ATV should appear (give it about 15-20 seconds). If it does, select it and enter the passcode showing on the ATV. This should re-sync the ATV to your copy of iTunes.

Make sure both the computer and Apple TV are on the same internal network. And if possible, connect the Apple TV to the network via ethernet (rather than WiFi). Again, make sure the Apple TV is "online" and connected to the same network at the computer running iTunes.

If all works, you should see the Apple TV appear in iTunes, something like this (i.e., there's now a small Apple TV icon at the right end of the row of icons along the top)…


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Anyway, have a go at the instructions above and let me know what happens, and we can go from there!


Thanks,

Kristin.

Nov 5, 2014 6:13 AM in response to gpsydney

Excellent—good find!

I don't have any machines, at home, running pre-12.0.1.26, so I can't check if that option existed before (can't believe I'd missed it, if it did!!!), but I'll check the machines when I get to work today and see if I can find one that hasn't been updated yet. Anyway, thanks for posting this—definitely will make things easier!

k.

Nov 24, 2014 4:03 PM in response to kristin.

Hi Kristin. You sound like you know a lot about Apple TV generation one. I'm hoping you can help me. All I want to do is display home photos on the TV via Apple TV synced with iPhoto. Right now there doesn't seem to be any recognition of the Apple TV by my 2009 MacBook Pro (updated to ios 10.9.5). In other words, the Apple TV does not show up in devices and there is no little Apple TV icon on the iTunes page (I thought maybe I could re-introduce my laptop to the Apple TV but don't know how to do that without the little icon). I can use either ethernet or wifi if that matters. Can you guide me on this? Thank you for any insights. Margaret

Nov 25, 2014 5:12 PM in response to kristin.

Hi, I appreciate your help and I have tried everything you suggested (and more) but with no success. The computer just does not seem to be recognizing that the ATV is there. No little icon. To answer your questions, yes - the ATV had been synced with my computer and it used to work. I can’t help think that the upgrade of computer software is preventing the connection. I have cancelled all previous connections on the ATV, and in fact, I put the ATV back to factory settings and started from scratch. I can use the ATV (movies, You Tube, etc.) but when I go to the screen that gives the passcode to connect to iTunes there is no icon thus no connection. Under “file” when I go to Devices there is none listed. I’ve double checked that the ethernet cable is secure, and the network on both is the same (though the IP addresses are not exact?). I’ve also checked that the network is working by playing some You Tube. All seems to be okay with the ATV. I’ve turned my computer off and back on each time just in case. Can you think of anything else I can try? Should I try to revert to an older version of iOS? Thank you for your time and trouble.

Dec 2, 2014 5:14 PM in response to kristin.

I actually have completely given up on this and am completely disappointed with Apple support on the issue. I've decided just to plug my iPad into the TV and show photos, play music, etc. from there (not quite the same but it does the job). This should make Apple happy cause I had to buy the HDMI adapter to go from iPad into TV. Even when they're non-responsive I'm still adding to their profits. Argh.

Feb 5, 2015 2:16 AM in response to kristin.

I can sync with ATV1 however it doesn't appear to take any notice of what is checked (ticked) and what isn't.

I've been trying for 3 nights now after downloading Series 2 House of Cards on iTunes on my Macbook Pro.

It always syncs other content but not the episodes I've selected, I've tried various settings with custom and auto sync, also toggled the 'prevent apple tv from syncing automatically' in preferences to no avail.

I'm currently trying 'automatically include all episodes of tv shows' under 'sync tv shows' and waiting for all my shows to sync again, even the ones that are already synced!

I'm so over this Apple, it's uber complicated!

Netflix is about to launch in Australia, bring it on.

If anyone has any thoughts on how I can finish watching the series i purchased please let me know.

thanks

J

Feb 15, 2015 1:55 PM in response to kristin.

I too have a first generation apple TV. Seriously superior to the newer models. I too have been through all of the grief suffered by other users of the first generation ATV. This is purely and simply Apples unwillingness to support old platforms when they have new ones. For a while last year it was fixed, then lo and behold here we go again. I even had to take my ATV to the apple store when I tried to reset it to factory settings (thinking erroneously, that this would solve the problem - it didn't). Now I can't get my library to synch TV shows and episodes unless I download them directly to the ATV (and then fight with apple to get my money back since I've already purchased the shows).


Considering now flawlessly everything IOS synchs between phones, iPads, iPods etc etc etc, Apple could easily fix this but they won't.

Feb 16, 2015 6:06 PM in response to Jacksonjeff

Jeff, I'm having the exact same problems you've described. I have all of the content I purchased available on all of my iOS devices for download from the cloud, but I have to PURCHASE anything I want to see on my ATV1 again, it doesn't show as purchased already. THEN each time I have to go and file a complaint with the apple store to get it reversed. MY most recent problem is that the synch that my laptop IS doing has removed TV series I've already purchased and am watching on the ATV This is ridiculous. Don't waste your time buying the new apple TV. I had one of those too in our bedroom - it stores nothing and plays over wifi (poorly - stopping and starting). I gave it to my son in California. Netflix is great. I viewed the entire house of cards seasons up to current. It's a great show.

Dec 10, 2014 8:04 AM in response to minjak

minjak—I had to set up another Apple TV (first generation) last night, but I didn't have an available network to work on. I ended up connecting the Apple TV directly to the MacBook via ethernet, in essence, creating a one-to-one/direct network. You may want to try doing this to see if it's a network issue that's causing the problem?


Just make sure, if you do this, that you manually set the network information on both devices, with manual/static IP address on the same subnet, etc. For example, this is the networking settings I've used to achieve this:


Apple TV (first generation)

IP: 192.168.12.12

Subnet: 255.255.255.0

Gateway/Router: 192.168.12.1 (this doesn't really matter since there is no router/LAN)

DNS: 8.8.8.8 (this doesn't really matter since you're not actually connected to the internet)


MacBook (running iTunes)

IP: 192.168.12.13

Subnet: 255.255.255.0

Gateway/Router: 192.168.12.1 (this doesn't really matter since there is no router/LAN)

DNS: 8.8.8.8 (this doesn't really matter since you're not actually connected to the internet)


To get iTunes to actually "see" the Apple TV (as it wouldn't just appear, at first), you have to tell the Apple TV to pair with a new computer/iTunes (at which point, the Apple TV displays a code on screen—iTunes should then "see" the Apple TV and allow you to input the code to "pair" with the Apple TV).


Give that a shot and see if it works (unless you have completely given up).

k.

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