Albina26844

Q: Yosemite crippled PDF text annotation with Preview.

In previous versions of preview, you used to be able to select 'textbox' markup tool and one-click create textboxes wherever you want on a pdf. Now, with the new Yosemite, selecting 'text' markup tool  creating a textbox in the middle of the screen, not where-ever you click. This cripples the productivity of annotating lecture slides during a lecture. I don't want my text box to always appear right in the middle of the page- I want to click to place it.

 

Also, why is it vertically center justified- who, EVER, used vertically center justified text rather than vertically top justified text?

 

Are there anyways around this?

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9.5)

Posted on Oct 25, 2014 12:54 PM

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  • by PompanoMikeC,

    PompanoMikeC PompanoMikeC May 7, 2015 10:27 AM in response to ReedEzekiel
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    May 7, 2015 10:27 AM in response to ReedEzekiel

    Thank you!   I would have never figured this out.    Adding text and an arrow is even easier now - you can do it in one action now.   But in no way was it obvious.   Thanks ReedEz.

  • by Ti928,

    Ti928 Ti928 May 28, 2015 1:13 PM in response to Albina26844
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    May 28, 2015 1:13 PM in response to Albina26844

    This worked for me:

     

    - Click the Toolbox icon & then click the T icon

    - Type away

    - Click on your text box to select it

    - Use SHIFT (key) + LEFT, RIGHT, UP, DOWN arrow keys to move your text box anywhere

    - Use the LEFT, RIGHT, UP, DOWN  arrow  keys to move your text box by a few pixels

     

    This works with the Shapes too.

  • by mirooo,

    mirooo mirooo Jun 4, 2015 11:45 AM in response to Albina26844
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    Jun 4, 2015 11:45 AM in response to Albina26844

    I think I found a solution to put Mavericks preview back without the "invisible text" issue.

    I have yosemite 10.3

     

    So first you need to replace PDFkit (thanks to Richard Oberndorf):

    Replace PDFkit framework with the one from Mavericks. Here's how:

         a) BACK UP your system!!!!

         b) Go to /System/Library/Frameworks/Quartz.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks

         c) Copy PDFKit.framework to somewhere else on your computer for safe keeping in case you need to replace it. This is version 3.1 in Yosemite.

         d) In the same folder on a Mavericks system, make a copy of the PDFKit.framework file. This should be version 2.9.2 in Mavericks.

         e) Replace the file in folder (b) with the Mavericks version (d)

         f) Restart the computer

     

    Then you add in Programs the Preview.app from Mavericks (see the backup).

    And restart your mac.

     

    It worked for me.

  • by bappyple,

    bappyple bappyple Jun 7, 2015 7:05 PM in response to mirooo
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    Jun 7, 2015 7:05 PM in response to mirooo

    Could you share your PDFkit of Mavericks? I do not have any Mavericks back up.

  • by BlueTwilight1,

    BlueTwilight1 BlueTwilight1 Jun 12, 2015 4:10 PM in response to Albina26844
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    Jun 12, 2015 4:10 PM in response to Albina26844

    I share your frustration with the new annotation functionality of Preview 8.0 in Yosemite. I think I found a workaround. The problem is in the preference "Smoothing Text and Line Art." It is checked by default. Uncheck it and horizontal lines should remain as such after closing.

    Screen Shot 2015-06-12 at 4.08.05 PM.png

  • by BlueTwilight1,

    BlueTwilight1 BlueTwilight1 Jun 12, 2015 4:48 PM in response to BlueTwilight1
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    Jun 12, 2015 4:48 PM in response to BlueTwilight1

    Apparently you also need to Save the changes before closing.

  • by BlueTwilight1,

    BlueTwilight1 BlueTwilight1 Jun 13, 2015 10:26 AM in response to BlueTwilight1
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    Jun 13, 2015 10:26 AM in response to BlueTwilight1

    Sorry. I guess my suggested workaround is not particularly stable.  I am still having trouble with the vertical line conversion in Preview. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. However, if you open the saved Preview-annotated pdf file in Adobe Acrobat, the horizontal underlining remains in its proper position!

  • by Chloedyia,

    Chloedyia Chloedyia Jul 6, 2015 12:35 PM in response to mark_mac05
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    Jul 6, 2015 12:35 PM in response to mark_mac05

    Mark - same here ; I've always found the preview annotation function, especially the Text option, to be inconsistent. Unbelievably I've spent 45 minutes today trying to insert 3 lines of text. Having referred to Previous Help to see if any changes in procedure (no), and diligently proceeding slowly in a stepwise fashion, I get - junk: i.e., nothing, or a gigantic text box opening, or infrequently my text on a different part of the page (which at least can be fixed by dragging to the correct position). I suspect Adobe has not fully cooperated with Apple's attempt to enable its users to manipulate .pdf files without having to purchase the very expensive Adobe program which makes manipulation a breeze.

     

    So I went for a low-tech solution (printing the single page causing grief and handwriting what I needed to add, then re-scanning). Crude but faster. Prefer this to adding programs to fix programs   (too much resemblance to polypharmacy when patient is prescribed 2nd medication to address side effects of 1st med) and because, with apologies to those enthusiastic AI developers, over the years I've witnessed additional layers of complexity accompanied by compromises in productivity -- more things go wrong.

     

    IMHO as a rank amateur, for every gain from a new bell or whistle, there is an equal or greater loss in productivity. (There is some theoretical backup to my observation.)

     

    Cheers from Cloud9

  • by cogito2,

    cogito2 cogito2 Sep 20, 2015 7:59 AM in response to jranck
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    Sep 20, 2015 7:59 AM in response to jranck

    Unitytracks at  https://www.reddit.com/r/osx/comments/2jjajx/yosemite_crippled_pdf_annotation_wi th_preview_any/clh39ce has made a copy of Preview 7.0 available on Google Drive and this seems to do annotations OK in Yosemite (I needed to add an arrow to a photo and it worked OK).  A download link is available at the top of the page that has the zip file on it.

  • by puhpuhpuhpriya,

    puhpuhpuhpriya puhpuhpuhpriya Sep 30, 2015 4:47 PM in response to Albina26844
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    Sep 30, 2015 4:47 PM in response to Albina26844

    see how many people are frustrated with this who haven't also found this page!!

     

    https://www.reddit.com/r/osx/comments/2jjajx/yosemite_crippled_pdf_annotation_wi th_preview_any/

  • by drjuicyk,

    drjuicyk drjuicyk Oct 19, 2015 8:47 AM in response to Albina26844
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    Oct 19, 2015 8:47 AM in response to Albina26844

    Hi all

     

    I too have been frustrated and I just updated to El Capitan. For whatever reason, I just noticed that you can left justify your text box simply by clicking on the A icon in the toolbar. It allows you to change the font, size and justification! So simple...

  • by igirl1,

    igirl1 igirl1 Nov 17, 2015 1:44 PM in response to drjuicyk
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    Nov 17, 2015 1:44 PM in response to drjuicyk

    drjuicyk wrote:

     

    Hi all

     

    I too have been frustrated and I just updated to El Capitan. For whatever reason, I just noticed that you can left justify your text box simply by clicking on the A icon in the toolbar. It allows you to change the font, size and justification! So simple...

    OK - but does Captin EO allow you to add hyperlinks to PDFs again?  I'm still on Yosemite Sam and updating soon.

  • by fadrianoc,

    fadrianoc fadrianoc Feb 11, 2016 11:45 PM in response to igirl1
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    Feb 11, 2016 11:45 PM in response to igirl1

    The issue is still here also on El Captain!

    Why Apple takes so loong to fix it???

    Any workaround?

     

    I have also this issue: adding a text in a pdf file using Preview Apple App.

    Open the pdf with PDF Expert Pro by Readdle.

    The text appears rotated by 180 degrees!!!

  • by jkordani,

    jkordani jkordani Jun 30, 2016 8:52 AM in response to Albina26844
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    Jun 30, 2016 8:52 AM in response to Albina26844

    Don't worry everyone, its 2016, 10.11.5 with preview 8.1 and this is still hosed.  thanks apple this used to work great, why is your user experience so variable from release to release, ****!

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Jun 30, 2016 9:31 AM in response to jkordani
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    Jun 30, 2016 9:31 AM in response to jkordani
    Apple doesn’t routinely monitor the discussions. These are mostly user to user discussions.  Send Apple feedback. They won't answer, but at least will know there is a problem. If enough people send feedback, it may get the problem/suggested change solved sooner.  Feedback
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