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Oct 27, 2014 5:04 AM in response to andy fbby NickBranson,Well, the only place to get apps for the iphone is itunes app store, and they won't carry out of date apps... She can still use gmail, however, she will just have to go through setting up her gmail account through her mail app.
Here is how: Add an email account on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch
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Oct 27, 2014 5:51 AM in response to NickBransonby andy fb,thanks for your reply!
but this would only give access to the mail function, not contacts, calender and stuff
that my wife uses and needs. and are apperantly part/accessable through the gmail app.
is there no place to find the older version of an app??
thanks for your help.
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Oct 27, 2014 6:22 AM in response to andy fbby AmishCake,It is doubtful. That device is now around 7 or 8 years old. You should consider purchasing a used but more up-to-date device that can run a newer OS.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:11 AM in response to AmishCakeby andy fb,but there is nothing wrong with that device!!
do i have to throw it away now and buy something else?!
that would just be wrong.an app is just a few MB big, they should keep it
in "stock". that's just ridiculous.
is there another place to look for iphone apps than the itunes store?
thanks again for advice.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:15 AM in response to andy fbby ChrisJ4203,It is the developer's decision as to what apps remain in the App Store. Many decide to only maintain the most current version. If you attempt to download the current app and your phone is not capable, if the older version exists it should prompt you for that app. If it does not prompt you, then the older version does not exist. I believe you can still access the calendar and contact portion of that through the native mail application, you just do not get the ability to use push. You would have to set the mail to fetch and determine a fetch schedule.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:15 AM in response to andy fbby Kilgore-Trout,If Google has chosen not to provide an app that will run on a version iOS that old, there isn't any thing anyone here or Apple can do about it. That's Google's decision. As previously suggested, the native mail app should still be able to handle it. But I would have to agree with Amish. That phone is just about past its due date if you expect to run current apps and functionality.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:19 AM in response to andy fbby Phil0124,You can try to get a compatible version of the iPad if Google maintains one still in the App store.
You will need to Download the Gmail App in iTunes on your Computer or another device that does support the current up to date version of the App, using the Apple Id associated with the App store on the 3Gs.
Once you've downloaded the App on another device or iTunes on a computet, you can go into the App Store App on the 3Gs. and look in Updates->Purchased and Look for the App there.
It should Prompt you its not compatible, but offer to download the last compatible version if there is one.
Install the latest compatible version of an app on an earlier version of iOS or OS X
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Oct 27, 2014 11:29 AM in response to Kilgore-Troutby andy fb,i guess thats just the way it is then. thanks for the help, lets see how it works through mail...
but i can't agree with you guys. not everyone needs the newest thing. the 3gs is technical capable
of everything my wife needs or wants. it runs smooth and perfect. it's just really wrong that this world
has to throw even more stuff away even if it works. google, apple and all the others don't give us that file,
although it does exist, because they want us to buy a new fon or whatever.
and that's a crime in my eyes and should not be legal.
anyway, thanks for your help. not much we can do about that i guess....
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Oct 27, 2014 11:32 AM in response to andy fbby Phil0124,There might be a way to get a compatible version of Gmail App as outlined above.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:32 AM in response to andy fbby Mike458,andy fb wrote:
but there is nothing wrong with that device!!
You're right, there's nothing wrong with the device. You can use the iOS Mail app, as it was designed and advertised, to access your Gmail. Or you can use Safari to access your Gmail.
And are you quite sure that adding the Gmail account to the iPhone doesn't grant you access to the Contacts & Calendars? Are you positive?
Check again.
And as far as it being 'illegal', that's pure bunk. Show me where you were ever promised, by Apple or Google, that the Gmail app would always be available?
And in fact, had you saved the app to your computer back when the version was compatible with your device, you'd still have the Gmail app.
No one promised you the Gmail app. Stop acting like you've been harmed in some way.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:35 AM in response to Mike458by AmishCake,Exactly; that's how technology has always worked. Look at computers; new versions of Windows come out and old computers stop working. You just buy a new one and recycle the old one. That's just how it is.
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Dec 9, 2014 7:05 PM in response to AmishCakeby sdouglas585,Ummm . . . AmishCake . . . that's not quite the way it works. This is the way that Apple has chosen to implement and manage their ecosystem. Before going further, let me state emphatically that I'm both an Apple and a Microsoft fan. I own and use Windows PCs and Macs and IOS devices daily. But I wholeheartedly sympathize and empathize with the OP.
Let's take a look at the Microsoft side of operating systems. Keep in mind the following dates: XP released Oct 2001; Vista released Jan 2007; Win7 released Oct 2009; Win 8 released Oct 2012. Now compare these release dates with their end of life End of Support dates. A very different business approach than Apple.
I just recently wanted to update my macbook pro to Mavericks. No longer available. It was pulled from the store the day Yosemite was released. The only non Yosemite OS still available are physical disks of Snow Leopard and download keys for Mountain Lion which, incidentally, take 1 to 3 business day to receive via email once you buy them online. Why, isn't it available for immediate download once you've submitted your credit card info? Who knows? But it makes for a poor customer experience.
And incidentally, new versions of Windows run quite well on old hardware. I just recently installed Windows 8 on a Dell Latitude D610 laptop that was purchased in July 2005. It's perfect for email, light web surfing, and running MS Office 2013 -- yup, Office 2013 runs just fine on a 9 year old Windows laptop.
Another commenter in this thread mentioned that it's up to the App developer what versions they offer. That's not correct. In fact, Amazon had an FAQ on their site regarding the availability of the Kindle App for older IOS versions. The FAQ stated that Apple would not allow them to make it available. It wasn't until around October 2013 when IOS 7 was released that Apple appeared to be loosening up and the App store for the FIRST TIME EVER, presented users with the option of downloading the last compatible app rather than the most current. Prior to that, Apple would not allow Apps for older devices in the store. Lately, since the release of IOS 8, I've noticed that the last compatible app offering is getter scarcer and scarcer.
Another commenter points out that the phone "is just about past its due date if you expect to run current apps and functionality." True, HOWEVER, the user isn't expecting or trying to run current apps. He's simply wants to run the apps that can run on that phone. His gripe is they exist but are no longer being made available.
Another commenter rightly states that: "had you saved the app to your computer back when the version was compatible with your device, you'd still have the Gmail app." A valid point. However, Apple doesn't quite make that clear, and I would argue, gives people a false sense that they can simply download the app again. I personally learned that lesson the hard way. Also since you download your app purchase directly onto the phone, it's paradigm shift from the past where you had separate installation file that you could keep it and back it up where ever, however you wanted. It's not that simple or straightforward in the Apple Ecosystem. I'm a user of VMware Workstation, for example. I generally upgrade every 1 to 2 years. I can still go back, log into my VMware account and download my old versions. That's more of the norm. Apple certainly has the capability and resources to allow this if they wanted to, they simply don't.
And the OP is spot on with respect to how wasteful we are by adopting, defending, and / or supporting policies and business practices that artificially make devices obsolete with what appears to be a highly effective way to force people to buy new.
