Q: Lag in Typing in Yosemite's Mail w/ External Apple Keyboard

Obviously the bug tracks your posts and when it sees you relax, it attacks.

Has anyone checked to see if they have save Junk and Trash on the server set to on in advanced Mail settings?  This seems to have been made a default in 10.10 (and 10.10.2 and 10.10.2).  I wonder if the delays are Mail dealing with this.

Has anyone checked to see if they have save Junk and Trash on the server set to on in advanced Mail settings?

Three accounts:

iCloud:

Save draft messages on the server is on

Store junk messages on the server until 1 week old

Store deleted messages on the server until 1 month old

Pop 1:

Delete junk messages when 1 week old

Pop 2:

Delete junk messages when 1 week old

1 active account, Pop: delete junk 1 week.  don't think this is the problem...

I have also had this on several Macs including a new Mac pro and two MBPs in 10.10.  I have a developer account and it has been there in every iteration of 10.10. and is still the in latest 10.10.2.  Keyboard type irrelevant.

I just noticed that Mail in Yosemite's advanced account settings has save; Drafts, Junk and Trash set to ON as a default.  I have now turned them off on all Macs in case the lag is all this crap being saved to the server and syncing ... so now I and wait to see ...  I just wondered if anyone else has tried this.  Sorry if this is an old idea, I couldn't read all 24 pages!

FWIW: Mac NN reports on an internal beta of 10.10.2, speculating that the release version could be available soon. No mention of Mail.

BTW, I just saw the lag today, including at one point, no text appearing at all for many seconds until I typed another character.

I have also had this on several Macs including a new Mac pro and two MBPs in 10.10.  I have a developer account and it has been there in every iteration of 10.10.

Repetitive, but as you say, there are a lot of pages of this thread now.

I did not have this issue in any of the public betas of Yosemite. It appeared for me sometime after the release version.

Here are my data points.  Two accounts -- both on an OSX Server that I run for our family. 

Both accounts:

- Are POP accounts on the Yosemite machine where I'm experiencing the problem

- Spam settings for both accounts are

     Accounts/Mailbox behaviors/Junk -> Delete junk messages after one week

     Accounts/Junk Mail/When Junk Mail Arrives -> Move it to the Junk mailbox

- I reset my local-machine's learned-spam rules early on in the "lagging" troubleshooting, so there are hardly any local spam messages in that pile since the server catches almost all of it.

- The server also serves the same mail to various iDevices as IMAP rather than POP

- The server is filtering for spam (greylisting plus subscription to black lists)

So I have three Junk mailboxes -- the two POP ones and the Server one.  The Server Junk mailbox is the one that gets all the spam, the other two are empty. 

Just to be clear, you have ruled out saving drafts, junk and trash to the server as the culprit?

for me, with my Pop account, nothing is saved to the server (messages are deleted from the server once i DL them, junk stays in my inbox until i delete it, and trash is stored on my mac for a week)...

Rats!  I thought I'd found my problem.  It seems awfully like a network delay.  Given I get it on a new Mac Pro, a 2010 MBP and 2011 MBP it is spanning quite a range of Macs for me!

Just to be clear, you have ruled out saving drafts, junk and trash to the server as the culprit?

Is there a way for a POP account to save drafts/junk/trash back to the server?  I can't see those options, so I'm betting not.  In which case we can rule it out because I'm only doing POP from the Laggy machine (we need a name for this bug peepul).

Digitalclips wrote:

 

Just to be clear, you have ruled out saving drafts, junk and trash to the server as the culprit?

I certainly have not (even though I've never experienced it myself). I think it could easily be some sort of new "feature" for saving drafts or current status of documents using apps connected to iCloud and/or iCloud drive. Users with flaky internet connections could easily be slowed waiting for updates to complete. We just don't know enough about those processes along with at least a couple of networking issues which are still being looked into.

I think this problem is happening way too frequently (like every character typed) to be a draft saved to server issue.  Plus, you can disconnect your entire network and still see the issue - even when Mail knows it's in "offline" mode.  I think the brief flickering of the beach ball during the pause is indicative of something pretty low level that Mail is struggling with and I doubt that it's a resource the system has plenty of.  Many of us have well powered systems with fast CPUs, lots of memory, tons of hard drive space, fast Internet connectivity, and fresh installs of the OS and are still experiencing it. 

I'm again going on record, this problem is not going to be fixed with a setting or a software conflict.  It must be fixed by Apple with a new version of Mail.

Is there a way for a POP account to save drafts/junk/trash back to the server?

Yes. Mail > Preferences > Accounts > POP Account> Mailbox Behaviors.

They don't go back to the server, they just stay on the server.

I don't think this has anything to do with the Mail delayed text display issue.

But here's one more thing I've noticed.

Sometimes, but not always, if I drag a Sent mail to its proper folder (mailbox), there's a noticeable delay before it disappears from the Sent mailbox display.