Kevin Hanna

Q: Compressed memory for kernel_task too high

Hey guys,
after installing Yosemite, I've noticed that the compressed memory for the task "kernel_task" in activity monitor is too dam high.
I've tried restarting my computer multiple time, but the problem persists.

Screen Shot 2014-11-02 at 1.59.07 PM.png

Is it normal? Is anyone else having that?

iMac (27-inch, Late 2012), OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Nov 2, 2014 11:04 AM

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  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Nov 2, 2014 11:05 AM in response to Kevin Hanna
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    Nov 2, 2014 11:05 AM in response to Kevin Hanna

    Try force quitting all those "red" processes from Google, et.al. Your kernel_task memory isn't too high. That isn't your problem.

  • by shenry,

    shenry shenry Dec 13, 2014 5:48 PM in response to Kevin Hanna
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    Dec 13, 2014 5:48 PM in response to Kevin Hanna

    Interesting I have the exact same issue on my iMac 27-inch late 2012, but on my newer MacBook Pro there is no kernal_task compression or any other processes compressed. 

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Dec 13, 2014 6:04 PM in response to Kevin Hanna
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    Dec 13, 2014 6:04 PM in response to Kevin Hanna

    My kernel_task is 1.14GB and it is NOT a problem on my system.

     

    Do you have an actual problem?

     

    Or are you just trying to out guess the operating system?

  • by frankski1974,

    frankski1974 frankski1974 Feb 3, 2015 8:26 AM in response to Kevin Hanna
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    Feb 3, 2015 8:26 AM in response to Kevin Hanna

    I have this issue too.  Usually when I reboot, it fix itself but its coming back after some times. I'm trying to narrow down what app could be messing with the monitor.  I think its purely a cosmetic issue because the computer is not slow.  Its just annoying to see that in my usage. Did you found anything about this issue?

    Screen Shot 2015-02-03 at 11.24.00 AM.png

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Feb 3, 2015 8:56 AM in response to frankski1974
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    Feb 3, 2015 8:56 AM in response to frankski1974

    I have this issue too.  Usually when I reboot, it fix itself but its coming back after some times. I'm trying to narrow down what app could be messing with the monitor.  I think its purely a cosmetic issue because the computer is not slow.  Its just annoying to see that in my usage. Did you found anything about this issue?

    Please start a new post so you are thread-jacking discussion.

     

    In your new post, please include the EtreCheck output

    <https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6174>

     

    You may also want to look at your Applications -> Utilities -> Console log entries for any frequently repeating entries (like ones that happen ever few seconds), as they may indicate a problem with a filing background daemon.

     

    Put all of this information and a description of your issues in a  new post which you will then be able to control the discussion.

     

    PS.  1.21GB is normal for a 16GB system.  Most of this is virtual page tables the kernel is managing for all your other applications.

  • by Tom.Skillman,

    Tom.Skillman Tom.Skillman Mar 21, 2015 10:10 AM in response to Kevin Hanna
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    Mar 21, 2015 10:10 AM in response to Kevin Hanna

    Same problem on my 3 month old Mac Mini.  Some comments above seem to ignore the value of the kernel_task compressed memory value in the Activity Monitor display shown below (and above).  Notice 20 digit long Compressed Memory size.  Also see EtreCheck below, which seems to say nothing is wrong, however I do notice a slowdown in performance, like app startup time.  Do I believe Activity Monitor or EtreCheck?

     

     

     

    run-away kernel_task compressed memory.jpg

     

    Problem description:

    Very large value (20 digits) showing in Activity Monitor for kernel_task Compressed Mem.

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.1.8 (121)

    Report generated March 21, 2015 at 10:08:50 AM PDT

    Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Hardware Information: ℹ️

        Mac mini (Late 2014) (Technical Specifications)

        Mac mini - model: Macmini7,1

        1 1.4 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core

        4 GB RAM Not upgradeable

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac

     

    Video Information: ℹ️

        Intel HD Graphics 5000

            SAMSUNG spdisplays_720p

     

    System Software: ℹ️

        OS X 10.10.2 (14C1514) - Time since boot: 1:21:51

     

    Disk Information: ℹ️

        APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362 disk0 : (500.11 GB)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk1) / : 498.89 GB (381.45 GB free)

                Core Storage: disk0s2 499.25 GB Online

     

    USB Information: ℹ️

        Apple, Inc. IR Receiver

        Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

        Logitech USB Receiver

     

    Thunderbolt Information: ℹ️

        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

     

    Gatekeeper: ℹ️

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

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    Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️

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        378 MB    softwareupdated

        168 MB    CalendarAgent

        150 MB    Box Sync

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    Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️

        164 MB    Free RAM

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        715 MB    Wired RAM

        1.84 GB    Page-ins

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    Diagnostics Information: ℹ️

        Mar 21, 2015, 08:45:51 AM    Self test - passed

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Mar 21, 2015 1:26 PM in response to Tom.Skillman
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    Mar 21, 2015 1:26 PM in response to Tom.Skillman

    Some comments above seem to ignore the value of the kernel_task compressed memory value in the Activity Monitor display shown below (and above).  Notice 20 digit long Compressed Memory size.

    That is just a programming bug doing 64-bit math.  The value is 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFE000 hex, which means someone did not check for a 64-bit subtraction going negative, and then displayed it as an unsigned positive value.

     

    Your kernel_task memory usage is normal for a system with 4GB of RAM.

      Also see EtreCheck below, which seems to say nothing is wrong, however I do notice a slowdown in performance, like app startup time.  Do I believe Activity Monitor or EtreCheck?

    4GB is not a lot of RAM for Yosemite.  Your Activity Monitor memory presure says you are not compressing anything (not yellow).


    Otherwise I do not see anything obvious.

  • by Reiner G,

    Reiner G Reiner G Jun 13, 2015 3:05 AM in response to Kevin Hanna
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    Jun 13, 2015 3:05 AM in response to Kevin Hanna

    Same problem including very slow performance of the mac.

     

    Kernel_task compressed memory is ways too high so that my iMac late 2012 is sometimes not booting anymore. It also became very slow and apps like photoshop can't use OpenGL anymore. The preview mode doesn't work all the time (Mac seems to be too slow). The Etri report marked the: EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 999.35 GB (561.34 GB free) - 20 errors

    What should I do?

     

    Bildschirmfoto 2015-06-13 um 10.26.30.png

     

    Here is the report. Please help.

     

    Problem description:

    kernel_task compressed memory is ways too high

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.2 (132)

    Report generated 6/13/15, 11:42 AM

    Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Hardware Information: ℹ️

        iMac (27-inch, Late 2012) (Technical Specifications)

        iMac - model: iMac13,2

        1 2.9 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 4-core

        8 GB RAM Upgradeable

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

            BANK 0/DIMM1

                Empty 

            BANK 1/DIMM1

                Empty 

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        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

     

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        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M - VRAM: 512 MB

            iMac 2560 x 1440

     

    System Software: ℹ️

        OS X 10.10.3 (14D136) - Time since boot: 11:43:55

     

    Disk Information: ℹ️

        APPLE HDD WDC WD10EALX-408EA0 disk0 : (1 TB)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 999.35 GB (561.34 GB free) - 20 errors

     

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

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    Kernel Extensions: ℹ️

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  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Jun 13, 2015 11:53 AM in response to Reiner G
    Level 9 (74,005 points)
    iTunes
    Jun 13, 2015 11:53 AM in response to Reiner G

    Do a backup, preferable 2 separate ones on 2 drives. Boot to the Recovery Volume (command - R on a restart or hold down the option/alt key during a restart and select Recovery Volume). Run Disk Utility Verify/Repair and Repair Permissions until you get no errors.


    /etc/hosts file - Fixing a hacked

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Jun 13, 2015 12:18 PM in response to Reiner G
    Level 6 (19,662 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jun 13, 2015 12:18 PM in response to Reiner G
            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 999.35 GB (561.34 GB free) - 20 errors

    A) Chances are your disk drive is failing and that is the root cause of your performance issues (unreported retries are most likely happening which cause the disk to wait one revolution for each retry, and chances are it is doing lots and lots of retries before it gets around to being bad enough to report any errors into the logs).

     

    B) You have a 3rd party security program (PACE) which is not needed by Mac OS X.  See:

     

    How does Mac OS X protect me?

     

    <http://www.thesafemac.com/mmg-builtin/>

     

    C) Your Activity Monitor does not show any memory compression, as the graph is Green.  It would be yellow or red if there was memory compression.

     

    D) your kernel_task memory usage is within normal range for the 8GB of RAM in your Mac.  And ignore the impossibly large number, as that is just a math subtraction error involving 64-bit variables (subtracting a larger unsigned 64-bit value from a smaller unsigned 64-bit value results in an a very large unsigned 64-bit value instead of a negative number).

     

    F) your problems do not really have any relation to the original post, and to get the best attention from forum members, it would be better to have your own new post, and not thread-jack 's post.

  • by Reiner G,

    Reiner G Reiner G Jun 13, 2015 11:58 PM in response to BobHarris
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Jun 13, 2015 11:58 PM in response to BobHarris

    Ok, thanks a lot! I will try to do my best.

     

    Sorry for: F) your problems do not really have any relation to the original post, and to get the best attention from forum members, it would be better to have your own new post, and not thread-jack 's post.

     

    It's my first post ever.

     

    Thanks guys!

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Jun 14, 2015 1:32 PM in response to Reiner G
    Level 9 (74,005 points)
    iTunes
    Jun 14, 2015 1:32 PM in response to Reiner G
  • by acocabob,

    acocabob acocabob Sep 6, 2015 10:31 AM in response to BobHarris
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Sep 6, 2015 10:31 AM in response to BobHarris

    B) You have a 3rd party security program (PACE) which is not needed by Mac OS X

    Please refrain from giving "advice" about things you can't even be bothered to google. PACE is copy protection software, just nuking it from your computer is guaranteed to make very expensive plugins stop working and cause major headaches. Your "help" could lead to someone losing clients, please edit your post. Your other point about memory compression is also incorrect. You can have major compression and still a green graph, depends on the contents of your virtual memory  and how it's being accessed - lots of compressed memory barely in use will cause lower memory pressure than a lower amount constantly cycling in and out of compression and swap. The graph generally turns yellow when RAM is getting close to full _despite_ compression. Case in point, my daw is using 10GB, compressed 6GB, graph is green. Get off your high horse.

  • by kevlon Galloway,

    kevlon Galloway kevlon Galloway Oct 6, 2016 9:56 AM in response to Kevin Hanna
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Oct 6, 2016 9:56 AM in response to Kevin Hanna

    i have a 8gb mac and my compressed memory is at 5 or 6gb