how to get up and down arrows on scroll bar

This is such a brutal problem and I am sick and tired of hearing people say "just use the scroll wheel on your mouse" or "just use the arrow keys."

The scroll wheel IS NOT as precise as the arrows, and it is all herky jerky. The arrow key solution IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ALL PROGRAMS and causes problems even when it would "technically" work. For example, if your cursor is in the correct place, the down arrow will move the screen down one line in MS Word. If, however, you are halfway into a 100+ page document (as I often am) and forget that your cursor is still on page 1 (as I often do), then when you hit the down arrow you are taken all the way back to page 1, taking you completely out of your work.

The solutions offered by the "I don't get why those arrows are even necessary" people are clearly browser focused solutions that do not take business applicability into account. While a scroll wheel or arrow key solution is great for casually browsing the internet, it is not sufficient for those of us who need to use our machines and applications in a professional capacity. Whether it is a document with hundreds of pages or a photoshop project with hundreds of layers, the scrollbar arrows served an important function for millions of us.

I will admit that the trackpad on my Macbook will give me the precise scrolling that I need (at least in some programs), but it is quite annoying to jump back and forth between my wireless mouse and my trackpad. Please, please, please just bring the stupid arrows back. There are tons of people that want them and they are not going to hurt the people that think they are "useless".

Bob it is kind of you to suggest the feedback link. I'm glad BC083 posted here because I still follow this thread and am ever hopeful someone will find a 3rd party app or work around that will give us back our double arrows. As BC said they had unique functionality that is much missed!!

You are speaking to voluntees and have not control over macOS features.

Please use macOS Feedback

<https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.html>

They will not reply, but it does get read.

you can't get the arrows, just the slider

Apple Menu>System Preferences...>General

go to Show Scroll Bar

select Always

I am so bummed! In many programs (e.g., accounting software), the slider isn't precise enough to move line by line. Even a slight drag usually jumps at least a few lines (the equivalent of several entries). Why remove the arrows? Seems simple enough to just leave them there.

you can use the directional arrows to bump up or down a single line item, but it looks like Yosemite and Mavericks took a page from the IOS design book and got rid of the arrow icons.

Yes, I'm still miffed about the labels being turned into dots.

Yes, the directional arrow are gone, presumably due to some notion that desktop computers and iPhones are similar enough to run on the same platform. In Yosemite, the arrows you see at the bottom of the scroll bar serve a search function rather than a locational one. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why I would EVER use those arrows to search/find! 😕

ETA: You probably meant "directional arrows" on the keyboard. Sorry, I was fixated on the directional arrows on the scroll bars.

Yes, keyboard arrows.

The center mouse wheel will let you "click" up or down one line item as well.

JimmyCMPIT

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This has been driving me nuts for weeks. I looked everywhere in Safari - never thought of System Preferences.

Again - thank you!

I was my double arrows back too!!!!!! I do a lot of accounting data entry and they were really helpful. Is there a third party software epithet would put them back? My little click button gets gummed up and doesn't work smoothly.

No Scroll Bar Directional Arrows in Yosemite - How inconvenient!!

The keyboard arrows are SLOW SLOW SLOW! "NOT a replacement."

Unwanted feature deletion, I must say for us desk top users.

You can't get them back and have not been able to for several incarnations of of the OS. I, also, think this is such a bad idea I actually purchased a cheap HP Laptop just for writing. Add my name to the list of people who REALLY want the scroll arrows - and basically all the 'mouse oriented' tools back. Trackpads are terrible.

Yes, I'm still miffed about the labels being turned into dots.

Give XtraFinder a try. It returns the labels to the pre-Yosemite type:

It can also return the colorful icons to the Finder sidebar: