ipod nano 7g search function

I changed my old Ipod Nano 4G to a new 7G and I can't believe it..

1) where is the title search funtion? - why is it removed?

2) where is the cover flow? - why is it removed?

-- quite the same day by day - new generation and the old one will be better...

iPod nano, 7G

Posted on Nov 19, 2014 10:19 AM

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Nov 20, 2014 2:21 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

thanks that's clear, but I'am a technican and it's not the problem of the missing wheel, because you also can simulate a wheel on the touch. It's only a goodwill, because the Ipod Touch has also a search function and for the cover flow the touch is better than the wheel.... - the result is quite the same - only changing without thinking... - it's only for the profit and not for the user...

Nov 20, 2014 2:56 AM in response to HGWien

You may be a "technican," but you're not a "designer." Putting a simulated click-wheel on a touch screen, just so you can move your fingertip in a circle to pick letters is technically possible, but it would be a jarring design choice (the opposite of elegant). It's not really that elegant with a physical click-wheel. You can search on an iPod touch, because the screen is large enough for a keyboard (like iPhone). For something like coverflow, it works better when the screen is large enough so that your finger is not blocking a significant portion of the screen as you continuously swipe over the screen. iPod touch (and iPhone) is apparently large enough. iPod nano is apparently not.

the result is quite the same - only changing without thinking

The design differences between a click-wheel iPod and a touchscreen iPod is proof that Apple IS thinking about usability. If Apple was "changing without thinking," they would use a virtual click-wheel on a touchscreen, and call it a solution.

Nov 20, 2014 3:10 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

Ok - I think design is not the first - ... I want to use it not the look at it, it's not a picture on the wall!


It's not usefull to have a new design and you can't find something within 16GB of titles...


But anyway its also not something of the new design - what's the problem, you don't need a wheel on the touch and also not a keyboard. Apple had it in the past on the 4G. Open a search field on the touch and if you touch this field a letter-line will open, quite the same line with all letters like the old one - and you can slide along and you can touch the letter you want - the only different thing will be the changing from clickwheel to sliding! - so what's the problem with the design - the new touch display is bigger.


Sorry it's a goodwill


And where is the problem with the design an the missing cover-flow?

Nov 20, 2014 3:51 AM in response to HGWien

I want to use it not the look at it, it's not a picture on the wall!

Apple is successful because Apple balances form and function. Customers buy Apple products because they are elegant AND functional.


Earlier iPods did not have a Search function. Early on, someone in charge of final decisions (maybe Steve Jobs) likely saw a proposed way to pick letter using the wheel, and nixed it as being too awkward. My 4th gen iPod "classic" does not have a Search function, and that model went up to 60 (SIXTY) GB (the smallest capacity was bigger than 16GB). Later on, someone in charge of final decisions thought having a Search feature was important enough to allow the awkward interface. And later on, doing it on a very small touchscreen became too awkward again. What you propose with "sliding lines" sounds horrendous; a virtual wheel would be better than that... 🙂

And where is the problem with the design an the missing cover-flow?

I explained the problem in my last post. When you do something like CoverFlow, you are continuously swiping across the screen while looking at the screen continuously. It is different from swiping to move from one screen to another screen; you don't care about what's on the screen while you swipe. When the touchscreen is very small, your finger blocks a significant portion of the screen from view as you swipe. When the screen is larger (like iPod touch and iPhone), your finger still blocks the screen, but most of the screen can be seen while swiping. THAT is why iPod tough and iPhone implement CoverFlow, and iPod nano (with touchscreen) does not. (On a click-wheel iPod, CoverFlow is perfect, because your finger does not block the screen at all.)

Nov 20, 2014 4:45 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

Maybe it's the looking from your side, but I can't understand why everybody thinks he knows what the customer wants and needs. I think - put it in, if somebody will or can't use some feature it's not a problem, but if you have used it in the past and you haven't it now, you are engry.


My 6-person familiy - we use 6 Iphones, 1 Ipad, 5 Ipods 4G, Classic and 7G and the understanding about the missing functions comes not from mine, it comes from my children 13years, and they have smaller fingers 😎


... I'am also waiting since the Iphone 3GS-4GS to use my phone like a business phone, we have IOS 8.1 and you always can't sync the Outlook ToDo-List and I can't use my Outlook calender with all categories and colours .. - I was waiting now to the new 6series - and it will come with ?


YES - a new design,

- looks cheaper not so high-end than the 4GS+5GS metall series..?

- bigger and superbig like a little Ipad - so can't put it in your pants and jacket?

- new connector like 5GS, so I can change everything, HIFI-docking stations can't be used, fix mounted charging station in my business car should be changed.., charging docking stations in my office and so on...?


so what's going on with Apple...

Tell me why I should change to the new series, if I get only things I don't need or used things will be missed. - I will lose a lot of money to change everything, like the actually problem now with the first new lightning connector of the new Ipod 7G of my daughter...


I'am with you - design and technic must be balanced, but we haven't problems with the amount of RAM to reduce functions - at the moment a lot of people around me can't find the motivation to buy new things, because you can be sure, you get 4 new features you don't need and you also lose 5-10 features you have used day by day - and you can't see it before !


So and old adage says, "Don't touch a running system!"


with best regards from Vienna😁

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