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MacBook Pro late-2011 slow and unusable after Yosemite OS X clean install

Was ready for a fresh start and did a clean install of Yosemite on my MacBook Pro late-2011 (500 GB hard drive 8GB RAM). Started having major speed issues immediately. Read through some threads and tried all 13 fixes on TechDad's list. Suspected FileVault as the culprit so did another clean install and this time did DID NOT ENABLE FileVault. Haven't loaded any of my files or programs, and it's still unusably slow. Help!

Problem description:

MacBook Pro late-2011 500GB HD / 8GB RAM running incredibly slow after clean install w/ OS X Yosemite

EtreCheck version: 2.0.11 (98)

Report generated November 21, 2014 at 3:50:58 AM EST

Hardware Information: ℹ️

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011) (Verified)

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1

1 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core

8 GB RAM Upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0

4 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

4 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok

Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Video Information: ℹ️

Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 512 MB

Color LCD 1280 x 800

System Software: ℹ️

OS X 10.10 (14A389) - Uptime: 0:43:42

Disk Information: ℹ️

WDC WD5000BEVT-35A0RT0 disk0 : (500.11 GB)

S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified

EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB

MacBook Pro HD (disk1) / [Startup]: 498.88 GB (485.29 GB free)

Core Storage: disk0s2 499.25 GB Online

MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898

USB Information: ℹ️

Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Thunderbolt Information: ℹ️

Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Gatekeeper: ℹ️

Mac App Store and identified developers

User Login Items: ℹ️

None

Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

Default Browser: Version: 600 - SDK 10.10

QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️

None

Time Machine: ℹ️

Time Machine not configured!

Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️

3% WindowServer

1% hidd

0% Finder

0% com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

0% fontd

Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️

155 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

69 MB WindowServer

60 MB mds_stores

52 MB Safari

43 MB Finder

Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️

5.68 GB Free RAM

1.21 GB Active RAM

387 MB Inactive RAM

1.31 GB Wired RAM

1.01 GB Page-ins

0 B Page-outs

OS X Yosemite (10.10.1)

Posted on Nov 21, 2014 9:18 AM

49 replies

Lexiepex

Level 6

14,108 points

Nov 26, 2014 12:29 AM in response to DAB1769

I don't see anything

but this is peculiar:

on your disk1 only 20GB is used

did you move the User Library out completely? if so that is wrong (it is still advocated here and there, but it is wrong):

you should have the User Library on the same disk as the OS, and you can (if you want) move real user data out, like photos, music, movies, spreadsheets and what have you.

Curious,

Lex

etresoft

Level 9

56,338 points

Nov 26, 2014 7:21 AM in response to DAB1769

FileVault is usually not noticeable from a performance standpoint. Can you quantify exactly what is slow, and by how much? There are none of the typical red flags like antivirus or "clean up" software. The next most likely candidate is a failing hard drive.

Lexiepex

Level 6

14,108 points

Nov 26, 2014 7:30 AM in response to DAB1769

Etresoft explained my question above already. Disregard my post.

DAB1769 Author

Level 1

1 points

Nov 26, 2014 9:08 PM in response to Lexiepex

Interesting. Have not loaded or moved anything since the second clean install. Loaded all my documents from DropBox and a couple App Store programs (Pages, Numbers, Keynote, Evernote) after first clean install.

DAB1769 Author

Level 1

1 points

Nov 26, 2014 9:10 PM in response to etresoft

The issue is click...spinning wheel...wait...wait...wait...wait...click...spinning wheel...wait...wait...wait...type...spinning wheel...wait...wait...wait. The speed is such that I am not able to get anything done. And this is without anything loaded onto the machine. Speed and performance were completely sufficient before Yosemite install. Which is too bad. I like the new look and features...

Lexiepex

Level 6

14,108 points

Nov 27, 2014 1:38 AM in response to etresoft

failing hard drive

That's what I thought in the beginning, yes, but we already tested that from the Restore Partition....

Lexiepex

Level 6

14,108 points

Nov 27, 2014 1:44 AM in response to DAB1769

Since there is an App that can predict disk failures, why not use it:

download DriveDx from the Appstore (paid) or from http://binaryfruit.com (trial)

and install it: it will reside in the menubar after start, click it and choose "Check Drive Health", then choose "Save Drive Health Report" (it will save in the Documents folder, Open the Report and post the contents here. You can then choose "Open DriveDx Application" and it will show you everything about your disk and the Health indicators, with explanation !.

Lex

DAB1769 Author

Level 1

1 points

Nov 27, 2014 6:01 AM in response to Lexiepex

### SYSTEM INFORMATION ###

Report Timestamp : November 27, 2014 8:58:12 AM EST

Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-11-27T08:58:12

Application Name : DriveDx

Application Version : 1.3.0.444

App SubBuild : 0

Application Edition : 1

DriveDx Knowledge Base Revision : 1/1

Computer Name : David’s MacBook Pro

Host Name : Davids-MacBook-Pro

IP Address : 127.0.0.1

Computer Model : MacBookPro8,1

OS Boot Time : 2014-11-27T08:18:43

Time Since Boot : 00h 39m 29s

OS Name : Mac OS X

OS Version : 10.10.1

OS Build : 14B25

OS Kernel Version : Darwin 14.0.0

ATA Command Support Tolerance : verypermissive

N of drives with S.M.A.R.T support : 1

### DRIVE 1 OF 1 ###

Last Checked : November 27, 2014 8:56:45 AM EST

Last Checked (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-11-27T08:56:45

Advanced SMART Status : OK

Overall Health Rating : GOOD 92.7%

Overall Performance Rating : GOOD 92.7%

Issues found : 1

Serial Number : WD-WX41E50H4874

WWN Id : 5 0014ee 655a47bfb

Volumes : MacBook Pro HD

Device Path : /dev/disk0

Total Capacity : 500.1 GB (500,107,862,016 Bytes)

Model Family : Western Digital Scorpio Blue Serial ATA

Model : WDC WD5000BEVT-35A0RT0

Firmware Version : 01.01A01

Drive Type : HDD 5400 rpm

Power On Time : 8,897 hours (12 months 10 days 17 hours)

Power Cycles Count : 6,590

Current Power Cycle Time : 0.7 hours

=== DEVICE CAPABILITIES ===

S.M.A.R.T. support enabled : yes

DriveDx Active Diagnostic Config : Base config [hdd.default]

Sector Logical Size : 512

Sector Physical Size : 512

Physical Interconnect : SATA

Removable : no

Ejectable : no

ATA Version : ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)

SATA Version : SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s

Attributes Data Structure Revision : 16

SMART Command Transport (SCT) flags : 0x7037

SCT Status supported : yes

SCT Feature Control supported : yes

SCT Data Table supported : yes

Error logging capabilities : 0x1

Self-tests supported : yes

Offline Data Collection capabilities : 0x7b

Offline Data Collection status : 0x0

Auto Offline Data Collection flags : 0x0

Bay # : 1

I/O Path : IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/SATA@1F,2/AppleIntelPchS eriesAHCI/PRT0@0/IOAHCIDevice@0/AppleAHCIDiskDriver/IOAHCIBlockStorageDevice

[Known device ]: yes

[Drive State Flags ]: 0x40000000

[Last State Change Timestamp ]: 2014-11-27T08:55:37

[Last State Change Flags ]: 0x40000000

[Last State Change Diff Flags ]: 0x1

=== CURRENT POWER CYCLE STATISTICS ===

Data Read : 720.8 MB

Data Written : 310.5 MB

Data Read/Write Ratio : 2.32

Average Throughput (Read) : 162.3 KB/s

Average Throughput (Write) : 57.0 KB/s

Operations (Read) : 17,063

Operations (Write) : 12,346

Operations Read/Write Ratio : 1

Throughput per operation (Read) : 43.3 KB/Op

Throughput per operation (Write) : 25.8 KB/Op

Latency Time (Read) : 0 ns

Latency Time (Write) : 0 ns

Retries (Read) : 0

Retries (Write) : 0

Errors (Read) : 0

Errors (Write) : 0

=== PROBLEMS SUMMARY ===

Failed Indicators (life-span / pre-fail) : 0 (0 / 0)

Failing Indicators (life-span / pre-fail) : 0 (0 / 0)

Warnings (life-span / pre-fail) : 1 (1 / 0)

Recently failed Self-tests (Short / Full) : 0 (0 / 0)

I/O Errors Count : 0 (0 / 0)

Time in Under temperature : 0 minutes

Time in Over temperature : 0 minutes

=== IMPORTANT HEALTH INDICATORS ===

ID NAME RAW VALUE STATUS

5 Reallocated Sector Count 0 100% OK

197 Current Pending Sectors Count 0 100% OK

198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100% OK

199 UDMA CRC Error Count 0 100% OK

=== TEMPERATURE INFORMATION (CELSIUS) ===

Current Temperature : 30

Power Cycle Min Temperature : 30

Power Cycle Max Temperature : 30

Lifetime Min Temperature : 23

Lifetime Max Temperature : 51

Recommended Min Temperature : 0

Recommended Max Temperature : 60

Temperature Min Limit : -41

Temperature Max Limit : 85

=== DRIVE HEALTH INDICATORS ===

1 Raw Read Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x147 200 51 200 100% OK

3 Spin Up Time Pre-fail online 1,625 187 21 184 92.7% OK

4 Start Stop Count Life-span online 6,769 94 0 94 94.0% OK

5 Reallocated Sector Count Pre-fail online 0 200 140 200 100% OK

7 Seek Error Rate Life-span online 0x0 200 0 200 100% OK

9 Power On Hours Life-span online 8,897 88 0 88 88.0% OK

10 Spin Retry Count Life-span online 0 100 51 100 100% OK

11 Calibration Retry Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 100% OK

12 Power Cycle Count Life-span online 6,590 94 0 94 94.0% OK

192 Power-Off Retract Count Life-span online 5,651 193 0 193 96.5% OK

193 Load Cycle Count Life-span online 1,393,172 1 0 1 1.0% Warning

194 Temperature (Celsius) Life-span online 30 117 0 95 58.5% OK

196 Reallocated Event Count Life-span online 0 200 0 200 100% OK

197 Current Pending Sectors Count Life-span online 0 200 0 200 100% OK

198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count Life-span offline 0 100 0 253 100% OK

199 UDMA CRC Error Count Life-span online 0 200 0 200 100% OK

200 Multi Zone Error Rate Life-span offline 0 100 51 253 100% OK

=== DRIVE ERROR LOG ===

error log is empty

=== DRIVE SELF-TEST LOG ===

self-test log is empty

Lexiepex

Level 6

14,108 points

Nov 27, 2014 7:08 AM in response to DAB1769

Looks good in general, but there IS a WARNING. In the problems summary and line 193 explained.

I do not know if this is sure to be the cause of your issues. I have asked the developer help me there.

Waiting for his answer.

Lex

etresoft

Level 9

56,338 points

Nov 27, 2014 8:23 AM in response to Lexiepex

I don't put too much confidence in disk-checking tools, including and especially SMART diagnostics. They can be very misleading. The only real, definitive diagnosis of a failed hard drive is a system without 3rd party software interference that behaves as the OP describes, and that is corrected when the hard drive is replaced. And since hard drives can be replaced by the user for $50 in 5 minutes, that is good place to start.

DAB1769 Author

Level 1

1 points

Nov 27, 2014 9:10 AM in response to etresoft

Oddly, this afternoon, my MBP performance has returned closer to normal (still slower, but usable at this point). Could it be that the original FileVault process finally finished? Since none of the diagnostics have returned any issues other than a possibly faulty hard drive, I think I will replace with a SSD and see what happens. Thanks for all the help!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lexiepex

Level 6

14,108 points

Nov 27, 2014 9:18 AM in response to etresoft

All DUs only read the SMART info on the disk. But some are more predictive based on experience and statistical formulas than others. This one I tested with about 5 others about almost two years ago, and it was the only one that "predicted" the failing of two of my fifteen disks in test. The first failed within two weeks after that, the second two months after that (both rather new Lacie btw). But still is it is based on statistical analysis of a lot of parameters.

And it is a free test isn't it? Does no harm at all, like other softwares...👿

etresoft

Level 9

56,338 points

Nov 27, 2014 9:23 AM in response to DAB1769

My machine is virtually identical to yours and that is what I did. I generally replace my hard drive every 1-2 years anyway. I also increased my RAM to 16 GB just because I still could with this machine.

Lexiepex

Level 6

14,108 points

Nov 27, 2014 9:23 AM in response to DAB1769

I see no reason (yet) to ditch your disk, but an SSD is always a strong speedster in comparison....

Be sure to have much more space free on a SSD than necessary for a HDD.

If you want help herewith start a new thread for just this changing of your disk.

Lex

etresoft

Level 9

56,338 points

Nov 27, 2014 9:31 AM in response to Lexiepex

Don't put too much faith into those handy-dandy diagnostic tools. 🙂

I recently had someone e-mail me with an obviously failing hard drive. They had already found kernel I/O errors in the log file. Yet the low-level SMART reporter still said "verified" - as did EtreCheck. So, in the next couple of days I will have a new version of EtreCheck that can dig deeper into the log files and provide more information for the human to make a more accurate diagnosis.

And I had another incident where one of those detailed SMART diagnostic tools is reporting a disk failure but I actually think the cause was a buggy Thunderbolt driver in Mavericks. It might also have been my own failure to run an SMC reset. I had new Thunderbolt problems in Yosemite and an SMC reset (mostly) cleared them up. That left me with a lingering question - why don't PC users ever have to do SMC or PRAM resets?

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MacBook Pro late-2011 slow and unusable after Yosemite OS X clean install