Having spent many hours over many weeks (I think, indeed, the last few months) trying to do an act that seems as though it should be stunningly achievable and straightforward - and finding ample evidence that it is not - I'm driven by my appreciation of your comments in this thread, Lawrence Finch, to 1) Officially Sign Up to be a member of this community - though I've little to offer, I'm afraid - so I can 2) pose my question to you. While it's related to this thread (and many, many others), I've not found it put quite this way: If I store all the photos from my iPhone 5 (version 8.3) on iPhoto on my iMac Mini (&/or my MacBook Pro), can I then erase them from my iPhone, confident that they will be retrievable from, at the least, the iPhoto repository? I have iCloud, and am paying some amount monthly (I'm not being coy; I don;'t remember) to be sure that I have more than enough (200 GB) to cover any possibility that I might lose things through inadequate storage. The Preferences box tells me I have 183.88 GB available, so I'm evidently uber-safe in that regard. As well, I have Time Machine cooking away in the background, for what that's worth. But so far, in all my perusal of these community pages, I keep reading tales from many folks - some of them clearly, as e.e. cummings put it, 'braver than me, and blonder than you" - i.e., not lacking it intelligence and technical savvy - who are variously stymied and steamed. I'm happy to eschew indignation -- I just want to tuck my photos away in a manner that is assuredly safe, and not ponderously difficult to update as I take more photos. If I'm out of line posting this question here, I'll submit to whatever scolding is in order -- but dearly hope that I'll be pointed in the right direction, before the door slams behind me. Heartfelt thanks for whatever useful pointers you may have for this 73-yr-old beginner (who has been with Apple since the IIe I bought in, I think, 1983, which is still up in my attic).