slow to scroll

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slow to scroll

All of a sudden my Logic Pro X is super slow, even scrolling up and down through the tracks/up and down on the page to see tracks below off the screen, the program is slow, staggers, stops and starts. I have maybe 25 tracks but very little plugins running, never had this problem before, is there a reason I am missing?

I do not have any plugins going that are not native to Logic X Pro

I restarted my computer and the external hard drive I am running the files from, as well as my audio interface?

Logic Pro X, OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)

Posted on Nov 25, 2014 1:13 PM

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Answer 1

Nov 25, 2014 1:36 PM in response to Learnerburner

EQ in Analyse mode?

Any apps or routines running in the background? (Check OS X's activity monitor....)

Did you update / install / change something between the time when it didn't slow down and now it does?

Are you using a Retina display? (if so try turning off Automatic Graphic Switching in Sys Prefs)

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Answer 2

Nov 25, 2014 2:36 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

Thanks I tried your suggestions just now, still the same

--- the thing is , it is only this one project, my other projects that are bigger and use Analyser eq are fine. I have not done anything different, and if I close it and open a different project it is fine. So confusing!

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Answer 3

Nov 25, 2014 3:46 PM in response to Learnerburner

It seems when I turn automation off completely things are smoother and dont grind to jerkiness with every action - what I don't understand is I've deleted all the automation now (it was just volume automation anyway), and my other projects that have lots of volume/panning automation run perfectly fine..I can't seem to find what happened or how to undo it for this one project 😟 any suggestions?

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Answer 4

Nov 25, 2014 4:03 PM in response to Learnerburner

Try this....

Using the Selective Track Import (STI) feature.....

http://music.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-use-selective-track-import-in-logic-p ro-9--audio-3181

Create a new project...

Import one track at a time from your problematic project in to the new project including plugins and automation.. and test after each individual track import to find out which track or tracks (and therefor plugins for example) are actually causing the slowdown/jerkiness....

It's a bit of a long way round of doing this but STI is a great little feature to diagnose, identify and rescue projects that have developed odd issues like the one you are seeing....

Note: The tutorial is for LP9 but STI works the same way in LPX.

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Answer 5

Dec 1, 2014 6:19 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

THank you very much, that is awesome I did not know about STI - unfortunately what I found is that whenever automation is activated on this project, or a track has automation inputed at one point, then the project becomes slow/laggy, hard even to scroll up and down! I don't understand, even if I delete the automation points and turn off automation the problem remains! Also, I need to be able to use automation, it is just volume automation I can't believe my almost top end macbook I bought this year is having this problem --

Is there a setting that may be on causing the lag in responsiveness that I may have overlooked? What should I do..is there something wrong with my Macbook?

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Answer 6

Dec 1, 2014 9:31 PM in response to Learnerburner

Try this...

Go and download and install etrecheck from here....

http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

Now load your project in Logic... and then run etracheck and post up the full log here.. alomg with a list of any 3rd party plugins you are using in this project.

Maybe we will be able to identify the cause of this issue... as it is not normal.

Is it just this one project or does any automation in a new project, cause the same issue?

Note: You are running still Mavericks yes? If you have upgraded to Yosemite, there are known problems and performances issues at the moment... and the only known solution is to roll back, using your backups.. to your previous Mavericks/Logic combination

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Answer 7

Dec 2, 2014 7:58 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

Thank you so much, I downloaded and ran the program:

When logic x is open, with me simple scrolling up and down the screen with my trackpad on a project with automation I got this (I am using Mavericks still never updated).

I am going to try a brand new project and add automation and see if it happens right away.

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Problem description:

Whenever I have automation in my project, the project slows down whenever I try to do something, even as simple as scrolling up and down the screen.

EtreCheck version: 2.0.11 (98)

Report generated December 2, 2014 at 10:52:05 AM EST

Hardware Information: ℹ️

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013) (Verified)

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro11,3

1 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4-core

16 GB RAM Not upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0

8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported

Wireless: en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac

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NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M - VRAM: 2048 MB

Color LCD 2880 x 1800

SyncMaster 1680 x 1050 @ 60 Hz

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USB Information: ℹ️

Inateck 512.11 GB

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EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

KRF Crucial 512 (disk1s2) /Volumes/KRF Crucial 512 : 511.77 GB (204.20 GB free)

Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

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Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

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Mac App Store and identified developers

Kernel Extensions: ℹ️

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[not loaded] com.avg.Antivirus.OnAccess.kext (14.0 - SDK 10.8) Support

/Library/Extensions

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Startup Items: ℹ️

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Startup items are obsolete and will not work in future versions of OS X

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User Login Items: ℹ️

iTunesHelper Application (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

Flux Application (/Applications/Flux.app)

Dropbox Application (/Applications/Dropbox.app)

Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

AdobeAAMDetect: Version: AdobeAAMDetect 2.0.0.0 - SDK 10.7 Support

FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 15.0.0.239 - SDK 10.6 Support

QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

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CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin: Version: 1.0.105 Support

Safari Extensions: ℹ️

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Flash Player Support

Time Machine: ℹ️

Skip System Files: NO

Mobile backups: OFF

Auto backup: YES

Volumes being backed up:

KRF Crucial 512: Disk size: 511.77 GB Disk used: 307.56 GB

Destinations:

External HD [Local]

Total size: 2.00 TB

Total number of backups: 22

Oldest backup: 2014-05-10 03:45:27 +0000

Last backup: 2014-12-02 09:51:52 +0000

Size of backup disk: Excellent

Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk size 511.77 GB X 3)

Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️

65% Logic Pro X

6% coreaudiod

5% WindowServer

4% Finder

1% fontd

Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️

1.07 GB Logic Pro X

945 MB firefox

533 MB Finder

275 MB WindowServer

120 MB Dock

Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️

10.18 GB Free RAM

3.88 GB Active RAM

661 MB Inactive RAM

1.69 GB Wired RAM

5.01 GB Page-ins

27 MB Page-outs

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Answer 8

Dec 2, 2014 8:09 AM in response to Learnerburner

On a brand new project with automation, there does not seem to be the problem. Is there a limit to how many tracks I can run with automation? I have about 15 tracks total with about half of them using volume or panning automation - is that too much? Doesn't seem like a lot, I ran cubase on a really old PC with no problems with bigger projects/more automation so I assumed it would be okay!

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Answer 9

Pancenter

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Dec 2, 2014 9:22 AM in response to Learnerburner

Here's something from many years ago.

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"Thirdly, I have noticed that when I scroll through my arrange window from start to finish there is one point which slows the scrolling (sometime stops for a moment). At this point I have some simple automation in the project, however the automation is hidden and is not visible in the window, yet when the project is stopped and I am merely scrolling Logic slows up here as well"

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This has been reported on and off for quite some time. Not sure if it is something that happens all of the time or whether it involves certain plugins or is a simply a corrupt project. (there have been quite a few corrupt projects reported recently).

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Answer 10

Dec 2, 2014 9:44 AM in response to Learnerburner

Im busy in the studio at the moment but a couple of quick observations... that aren't likely to be the root cause of your issues but don't help with Logic's performance for sure...

1) You are running apps in the background/foreground that take resources away from Logic.. Firefox plus it's plugins for example... Unless there is a really good reason to run Firefox, I'd stick with Safari these days and ensure all other apps are not running when using Logic. If you look at the report.. Firefox is taking up almost a gig of your memory!

2) You have some pretty useless apps loading at startup.. AVG for example.. really isn't helping things... and to be honest there is no real purpose/benefit to an Anti Virus app on a Mac unless you are likely to do something dumb and download cracked software or you click on links in unknown emails...

Ok.. will check back later with more thoughts...

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Answer 11

Dec 3, 2014 9:27 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

INteresting, I didn't even know I had AVG installed! My mac is in the store getting a checkup, the screen sometimes goes black for like 10 seconds randomly/doesn't wake up properly, but not all the time - might be related but maybe not. I kinda hope they just find something and fix it!

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