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by Bob Timmons,Nov 26, 2014 9:20 AM in response to virgilfromsanta paula
Bob Timmons
Nov 26, 2014 9:20 AM
in response to virgilfromsanta paula
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WirelessPlease follow the steps in this Apple guide for troubleshooting connection issues on the iPhones to see if it might provide a solution your issue.
iOS: Troubleshooting Wi-Fi networks and connections - Apple Support
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Nov 26, 2014 3:15 PM in response to Bob Timmonsby virgilfromsanta paula,Hi Bob. Thank you very much for the suggestion. I tried each one but still can't connect to the internet. I can connect to the wifi but not to the internet. I get the message Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding.
My apple tv is also unavailable now.
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Nov 26, 2014 3:32 PM in response to virgilfromsanta paulaby Loner T,Can you verify your DNS servers? Please try a different browser, say, Firefox on your iMac. If you connect the iMac via a wired connection, does Safari (or any other browser work)? DNS issues (or your ISP's DNS may also be misbehaving).
How is Yosemite upgrade related to iPhone 4s/iPhone 5 wireless connectivity? Did you also upgrade to iOS8 recently?
The two may be unrelated. You may have several different issues.
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Nov 27, 2014 5:14 AM in response to Loner Tby virgilfromsanta paula,Thank you so much. When I open network preferences I can see the DNS servers. When my iMac is connected via a wired connection it works fine. I'm not sure how Yosemite is related other than my iPhone and iPad could connect to the internet via my airport extreme from anywhere in the house. After upgrading to Yosemite I can no longer connect. The iPhone seems to be connecting just fine to the wife but it won't connect to the internet. It just keeps spinning. I'll keep trying and researching and if I find the answer I'll post it. Thanks again. Appreciate it.
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Nov 27, 2014 6:21 AM in response to virgilfromsanta paulaby Loner T,Yosemite has a new protocol Apple Wireless Direct Link - AWDL. A lot of issues in Yosemite/WiFi are related to the implementation (a buggy one) which are causing grief for Yosemite users. If you have a wired connection, some of these problems go away. If there is a Yosemite machine which is 'live' in the network, it causes issues for other non-Yosemite devices which may be using WiFi, like iDevices, ATVs, etc.. It may explain what you observe. Do you have a non-Yosemite Mac available?
There are quite a few reports of Bluetooth/WiFi coexistence issues in Yosemite.
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Nov 27, 2014 11:38 AM in response to Loner Tby LaPastenague,That is really helpful.. Loner T.
If we only knew about some of this before hand it would make our lives so much easier.
Here is an article about peer to peer wifi going on..
http://help.apple.com/deployment/ios/#/apd8fc751f59
So it is jumping off the wireless infrastructure and directly passing files between the clients.. using channel 6 in 2.4ghz and 149 + 153 in 5ghz.
Anyone using AC wireless in US or many other places will have to use 149 to get the full ability of the AC wireless.
Peer-to-Peer discovery is initiated using Bluetooth Low Energy (BTLE) when a user selects AirPlay on an iOS 8 or OS X Yosemite v/10.10 device. This causes the device and the Apple TV to visit Wi-Fi channel 149 in the 5 GHz band and Wi-Fi channel 6 in the 2.4 GHz band, where the discovery process continues. Once the user selects an Apple TV and AirPlay starts, the Wi-Fi radios timeshare between channel 149 and whichever infrastructure channel each device is currently using. If possible, the AirPlay sender roams to the same infrastructure channel the Apple TV is using. If neither device is currently using an infrastructure network, the devices will utilize Wi-Fi channel 149 only for AirPlay. Peer-to-peer mirroring adheres to 802.11 standards, sharing Wi-Fi bandwidth with other Wi-Fi devices.
There are quite a few reports of Bluetooth/WiFi coexistence issues in Yosemite.
Of course because it is flopping between standard infrastructure wireless and this new peer to peer wireless.
There is already so much voodoo involved in getting wireless working at all.. this has to have a major effect on reliable wireless comms.
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Nov 27, 2014 11:58 AM in response to LaPastenagueby Loner T,Thanks,LaPastenague
Have spent the last several days scouring for information. On a Yosemite Mac, I have this.
awdl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1452
ether 5e:76:3f:04:f9:b9
inet6 fe80::5c76:3fff:fe04:f9b9%awdl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
media: autoselect
status: active
mDNS and discoveryd are going all over the place, with partial implementations.
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Nov 28, 2014 5:33 AM in response to virgilfromsanta paulaby virgilfromsanta paula,Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I don't have a mac non yosemite available at the moment. I'll try to set up an external drive and install the original OS and see if that works. I'll keep you posted. By the way, I live in Japan, hence the time lag.
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Dec 4, 2014 3:54 PM in response to Loner Tby go4hockey,I have pretty much the same problem. Airport Express with guest network set up wpa2 on both main and guest.
2010 MBP (10.8.5) and 2012 mini (Yo), 3 pads and 3 iPhones, running a mix of ios7 and 8, and 2 apple tv boxes.
After moving the mini to Yosemite my internet connection flakes out--both Safari and Firefox basically just "sit and spin", and my MPB has the exclamation point on the network pie. Switching between the networks seems to help the MPB, but that is a hassle because it takes me off the network that has my printers and puts it on the network with the xbox and kids phones and the kid's friends' iPods. The phones and the pads might stall a bit sometimes but don't get locked out like the mac-mini--and switching the networks on the mini doesn't seem to help like it does on the MBP running 10.8.5.
About the only solution for the mac-mini is to restart, which is horribly annoying. It seems to have gotten a bit better the last few days, but it is definitely an intermittent issue.
I was running the main plus the guest network prior to the yosemite upgrade and there wasn't a problem. Do I need to go back to 10.8 on the mini or do you think that a patch might be in the works?
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Dec 4, 2014 5:15 PM in response to go4hockeyby Loner T,As a test, connect the Mini via Ethernet cable, turn off Wireless, and test you Mini and other devices.