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Q: yosemite on my 1,1 mac pro

i am probably whistling dixie here but i just completely love my mac pro and have been thinking about maxing out the ram (i can get 32 GB in it and it currently has 13) and perhaps throwing in a couple of SSD hard drives.

 

however i cannot stand having to work on two different OS's with the laptop just now getting upgraded to yosemite.

 

is there any hope for me?

 

i just can't see myself spending the time that would be required to reconfigure my desktop machine in terms of reinstalling a new OS, reconfiguring data, backups, etcetera etcetera and the cost of a new mac pro causes me to wonder what i get out of this upgrade that wouldn't be better spent on a top of the line MBP.

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5), Boot Camp of Windows 7 + Windows XP

Posted on Dec 9, 2014 3:05 PM

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  • by Kappy,Helpful

    Kappy Kappy Dec 9, 2014 3:09 PM in response to hotwheels 22
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    Dec 9, 2014 3:09 PM in response to hotwheels 22

    Sorry, but that MP model cannot run anything higher than Lion. Later versions all require a 64-bit EFI ROM while the 2006 and 2007 models have only 32-bit ROMs. I'm afraid your option is to get a newer model - 2008 or later. Of course the older it is the greater the possibility it may be dropped from support in later versions of OS X.

  • by hotwheels 22,

    hotwheels 22 hotwheels 22 Dec 9, 2014 4:25 PM in response to Kappy
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    Dec 9, 2014 4:25 PM in response to Kappy

    hi kappy,

     

    can you help me figure out what getting a newer model mac pro looks like? i mean, presumably i can either put my old HD's in the new machine or i simply hook up via firewire and migrate my data over?

     

    also, is there a good way to know which mac pros will run yosemite?

     

    presumably you are indicating the newer the computer the more time i will get out of it before the OS upgrade goes away...?

  • by kahjot,Helpful

    kahjot kahjot Dec 9, 2014 6:36 PM in response to hotwheels 22
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    Dec 9, 2014 6:36 PM in response to hotwheels 22

    The new round Mac Pros don't have Firewire. If you have FW hard drives, you'd need to get a Thunderbolt dock with a FW800 port on it, or a Thunderbolt-to-Firewire adapter, in order to connect those drives to a new Mac Pro. If your external drives also have USB ports, you could connect them to the USB 3 ports on the new MP model. You will not be able to put your current MP's drives into a new "trashcan" Mac Pro.

     

    You might be better off looking for a used 2009 or 2010 Mac Pro. They can run Yosemite, and you'll have all the options for internal storage that you are accustomed to having, as well as saving a bundle compared to the cost of the new ones: http://eshop.macsales.com/search/Used+Mac+Pro

     

    Also check eBay for 2009 or 2010 models.

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Dec 9, 2014 7:26 PM in response to hotwheels 22
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    Dec 9, 2014 7:26 PM in response to hotwheels 22

    I have no idea what getting a newer computer looks like. I suppose I have a big smile on my face with a sign of surprise. Surely, by now you know how to transfer data from one device to another.

     

    I told you that answer in my last response.

     

    I sort of thought that was obvious.

  • by hotwheels 22,

    hotwheels 22 hotwheels 22 Dec 9, 2014 7:43 PM in response to Kappy
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    Dec 9, 2014 7:43 PM in response to Kappy

    hi kappy, actually i have never transferred data to a new mac so i was hoping to get a preview of what i might be looking at in terms of practical steps...

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    hotwheels 22 hotwheels 22 Dec 9, 2014 7:45 PM in response to kahjot
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    Dec 9, 2014 7:45 PM in response to kahjot

    hi kahjot, yeah, thank you. i have been really struggling with this but i am coming to the conclusion that this may be the best route for me. i see now that i have a dual core and i can easily improve by getting a quad core.

     

    can i ask if you know if there is anything else i should be shooting for...?

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Dec 9, 2014 8:06 PM in response to hotwheels 22
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    Dec 9, 2014 8:06 PM in response to hotwheels 22

    Your options are:

     

    1. Move the HDDs from one computer to the other.
    2. Connect the computers via Firewire and use Target Disk Mode to transfer data.
    3. Use Migration Assistant.
    4. Use an intermediary external drive.

     

    After posting so many highly technical inquiries here I would have thought this would not be a problem for you.

  • by hotwheels 22,

    hotwheels 22 hotwheels 22 Dec 9, 2014 8:20 PM in response to Kappy
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    Dec 9, 2014 8:20 PM in response to Kappy

    hi kappy. thanks. big help for me getting my head around this.

     

    can i please just ask you two more things?

     

    1. can you remind me if there is a way to move my boot camp installations? i have one for XP and one for 7 and for the meantime i would like to keep them. is this something i can move in one of the four ways you list or do i need to create a partition on the destination drive and restore a WinClone backup to the destination drive?

     

    2. can you remind me what i need to look for to see if i can simply plug in my existing HDD's into a new mac pro? i mean, i have a 2006 and i may want to upgrade to a 2010 or 2011 or whatever and i would like to know if there is a way to tell if i can just use my HDD's in the new machine.

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Dec 9, 2014 8:29 PM in response to hotwheels 22
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    Dec 9, 2014 8:29 PM in response to hotwheels 22

    Not exactly my area of expertise these days. For Boot Camp there is Winclone 4.4. I have not used it myself, so I have nothing to report about it.

     

    As far as I'm aware all you need do is transfer the drive to a compatible sled. Sleds changed after the 2008 models, I believe. Of course if you buy a used model it comes with four sleds. All you do is move the drives. The drives work fine.

  • by hotwheels 22,

    hotwheels 22 hotwheels 22 Dec 9, 2014 8:33 PM in response to Kappy
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    Dec 9, 2014 8:33 PM in response to Kappy

    ok. big help. sounds like i can use my HDD's from my 2006 and just get them on the new sleds in a 2009/10/11 if i have this correct.

     

    thanks

  • by kahjot,

    kahjot kahjot Dec 9, 2014 8:35 PM in response to hotwheels 22
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    Dec 9, 2014 8:35 PM in response to hotwheels 22

    I believe that going from your Mac Pro to a 2009 or 2010 model would be the simplest transition for you, and way cheaper than the current Mac Pro. Go with Kappy's Option 1. You can use the same drives. The drive sleds in your 2006 Mac Pro are different from those in the 2009 and 2010 models. So you would just need to remove the drives in your present system from their caddies and install them in the caddies in the newer model. You should then be able to slide them right in and use them without transferring anything. You don't need anything more complicated than opposable thumbs and a screwdriver.

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Dec 9, 2014 8:37 PM in response to hotwheels 22
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    Dec 9, 2014 8:37 PM in response to hotwheels 22

    That is correct.

  • by The hatter,

    The hatter The hatter Dec 10, 2014 5:14 AM in response to hotwheels 22
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    Dec 10, 2014 5:14 AM in response to hotwheels 22

    Reactivate probably and different hardware so probably need to prep windows to use and load new drivers, which belongs in Windows Boot camp forum.

  • by kahjot,

    kahjot kahjot Dec 10, 2014 7:57 AM in response to The hatter
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    Dec 10, 2014 7:57 AM in response to The hatter

    The hatter wrote:

     

    Reactivate probably and different hardware so probably need to prep windows to use and load new drivers, which belongs in Windows Boot camp forum.

     

    Yes! Before you start moving drives, take a look at what software you are running, and make sure that you have the necessary information to use those applications on different hardware. This info includes serial numbers, and authorization-deauthorization requirements, if any. For example, if you are using any Adobe apps more recent than the initial CS version (so CS2 and up), you will need to deauthorize them on your current Mac Pro before you transfer your drives, and reauthorize them on the new hardware. You can actually have them authorized on two computers, but you probably wouldn't have any reason to retain an authorization for your old system. (Note that CS2 apps will not run on Lion or newer.) A couple of the audio apps I have used also have authorization procedures that have to be followed correctly to keep the software functioning.

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