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Q: Upgrade from xp to 7/8

I have several iMacs running os x 10.6.8 with Windows Xp on a boitcamp partition. How do I upgrade to Windows 7 ? Can  i simply insert the installation Dvd under Windows Xp ? And If I want to upgrade to Windows 8 ? Should I first update os x too for that ? Thanks.

Posted on Dec 12, 2014 12:47 AM

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  • by tago,

    tago tago Dec 19, 2014 10:05 AM in response to Gordon Rankin
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    Dec 19, 2014 10:05 AM in response to Gordon Rankin

    But I'd need to buy this software. Curious: what happens to serial number and activation of a cloned image ??? Should one clone before inserting the SN ?

    Would creating a bootable USB from ISO under Windows work after installing rEFIt on OS X ? Something like this http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/9136/...nal-dvd-drive/...

  • by tago,

    tago tago Dec 19, 2014 11:10 AM in response to Gordon Rankin
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    Dec 19, 2014 11:10 AM in response to Gordon Rankin

    Let's say I get this tool, which looks convenient to deploy Windows on several iMacs, how do I work it out exactly ?

     

    Are the following steps correct ?

     

    1) Run CHKDSK on Windows. Should I also run SYSREP ?

    2) Save a Bootcamp image from one of the iMacs on an external drive (HFS+ formatted ?).

    3) If I already created the bootcamp partition on the iMac with the broken drive should I format it (FAT ?) under Mac OS X ?

    4) Plug in the external drive containing the Bootcamp image and run Winclone to restore it on the empty partition ?

     

    Thanks.

  • by Gordon Rankin,

    Gordon Rankin Gordon Rankin Dec 19, 2014 11:24 AM in response to tago
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    Dec 19, 2014 11:24 AM in response to tago

    Tago,

     

    You know maybe the quickest easiest way to make this work is buy or barrow a USB drive.

     

    I design software and hardware so I don't mind buying software. Also you get better support. Heck write it off... Nice thing is you can do a Windows backup and if the computer dies... then you can put it on any MAC you want.

     

    But it looks like you could use rEFIt method as well to install the OS. I have also seen on Microsoft how to do this since all these ultra lite notebooks are coming without drives.

     

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    In regards to the check disk stuff. Basically pressing enable will set you up for a reboot into a kind of safe mode that will run chkdsk in a lite OS. Now I will warn you 2 things here. The first time I did this after an hour I thought it was locked up. So I asked support about it and they said no it takes forever. Well it took 17 hours on Vista. It takes about 10 minutes on Win7. Yea I know do the same on OSX and it takes like 30 seconds.

     

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    The format for the partition needs to HTFS. I think when you do the install for Windows it will ask if you want to reformat it.  Winclone has examples on how to restore into a new partition. For me I had a new drive... so I used SuperDuper to dup the OSX stuff onto a new drive with one of those USB->SATA things and then swapped the drive. Ran bootcamp and made a new larger parition. Poped in the Winclone backup and then rebooted and it worked. Then I upgraded the OS to Windows 7.

     

    Thanks,

    Gordon

  • by tago,

    tago tago Dec 19, 2014 11:56 AM in response to Gordon Rankin
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    Dec 19, 2014 11:56 AM in response to Gordon Rankin

    It's not that I don't want to buy software or experiment with tricks, hacks and yabba-dabba , I'm a Computer Science teacher, so I like this stuff...BUT....those are not my computers, they are in the school department so I can not really mess around with them or "fight" with the IT guys. Getting money from the school to buy stuff is a pain, and I'd rather avoid to buy it with my own money. I'll try the rEFIt method first.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Dec 19, 2014 2:14 PM in response to tago
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    Dec 19, 2014 2:14 PM in response to tago

    In addition to what is suggesting, there is a Network installation. You have a source of the Winclone Image, and a target (or destination) Mac to send it to. The connection between the source and destination can be via sneaker net (aka USB/FW/TB drive) or network (wired or wireless). I would not recommend wireless.

     

    If all the machines (iMacs) have identical HW, then create a single 'source' on a designated Mac, and all other iMacs become clients. My understanding from Winclone vis-a-vis licensing is that you can only have one source/destination pair active for a single use license, but you should verify it directly with them.

     

    The destination iMacs require a FAT partition which is slightly larger than the source. The source is allowed to be shrunk (this can reduce transport time over the network) and is stored in two parts, metadata for the image, and the contents of the image, and both are stored in JHFS+ and are visible in Finder.

     

    I have used it to migrate Bootcamp to SSDs on a custom Fusion setup on Minis (I wanted BC/Windows on the SSD, which Apple does not support, even though it can do so very easily).

     

    If you are in the NoVA/DC area, I am willing to volunteer and help.

     

    rEFIt is no longer being maintained. Rod Smith is now maintainer of a branch called rEFInd. Please see http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/refind.html.

  • by tago,

    tago tago Dec 20, 2014 2:03 PM in response to tago
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    Dec 20, 2014 2:03 PM in response to tago

    rEFIt + bootable usb stick with Windows did the trick.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Dec 20, 2014 4:58 PM in response to tago
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    Dec 20, 2014 4:58 PM in response to tago

    Good work.

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