Fabrizio Ferrari

Q: Mail on Yosemite: crashes, slow and buggy.

I have already posted my experiences with Mail on Yosemite on several threads, and now I have decided to open my own thread about it, with the hope that Apple sees how many users are having the same kind of issues, and hopefully will address them in the next OS update.

 

Keep in mind that I am a web computer programmer, therefore I know, and I am sure that there is something buggy with this new version of Mail compared with the one on Mavericks, and I am sure Apple can fix it.

 

Here are the major flaws I have experienced:

 

1. Mail sometimes crashes, even when just typing a message which gives me frustration and madness!

 

2. Mail fetching and sending is terribly slow. New mail appears inside Mail after several minutes it is already appeared on my iPhone.

 

3. Updating the mailbox counters take forever. I have to literally leave Mail open for 15-20 minutes to see slowly updating the mailbox counters (!!!) That creates a lot of confusion from my part.

 

4. Slow deletion: If I delete 10 messages in a row inside a mailbox, then I go working on a different mailbox, and then get back to the previous one, the just deleted messages are back there! And they are getting "slowly" deleted after several minutes (10-20 minutes?)...

 

 

Well, it's impossible to work this way, it is just a mess. Managing email with my iPhone is much easier, which is insane.

 

The Activity window is always "working" with several processes going on all the time, no idea if that's normal or what. Why in the heck Mail has to keep synching a mailbox with inside just 20 emails for over 20 minutes??!!

 

I really hope Apple is going to release an update to fix all these issues, otherwise I will have to downgrade back to Mavericks. For me, actually, moving from Mavericks to Yosemite has been a big downgrade of performance, and a waste of time (hours!!) to figure out issues like this one.

 

My computer is a 2009 Mac Pro Quad-Core Xeon with 32GB ram, which has an insane amount of ram to have crashes and slowness with a simple program like Mail (!!) I have already tried everything: cleaning caches, regular OS maintenance, cleaning, rebooting in safe mode, reconfiguring Mail from scratch, etc. Something is wrong with the program itself.

 

If anyone is experiencing this kind of issues, please, post your experience on this thread, so we can have more chances to be noticed by Apple (if they ever look at these forums...)

 

Thanks in advance, and let's keep Mac OS improving!!

 

Best,

Fab.

Mac Pro Dual Xeon (2009), PowerMac G5, PowerBook G4 and iPhone, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on Dec 15, 2014 4:25 PM

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  • by Fabrizio Ferrari,

    Fabrizio Ferrari Fabrizio Ferrari Dec 19, 2014 11:35 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 19, 2014 11:35 AM in response to Linc Davis

    I am sorry, but I have done that carefully more than one time. I have also pasted the line into a text editor to be sure I copied it correctly, and I did it. I still get the same issue: the output inside the Terminal window reach these last characters:

     

    '-L /S*/L*/{C*/Sec*A,Ex}* {/,}L*/{A*d,Ca*/*/Ex,

     

     

    Then 5 acoustic sounds are produced and nothing more happens. Terminal gets stuck.

     

    I am pasting the exact same line I have copied and pasted into the Terminal Window here below, for your reference:

     

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  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 19, 2014 12:04 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari
    Level 10 (208,037 points)
    Applications
    Dec 19, 2014 12:04 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari

    Back up all data to at least two different storage devices, if you haven't already done so. One backup is not enough to be safe. The backups can be made with Time Machine or with Disk Utility. Preferably both.

    Erase and install OS X. This operation will destroy all data on the startup volume, so you had be better be sure of the backups. If you upgraded from an older version of OS X, you'll need the Apple ID and password that you used, so make a note of those before you begin.

    When you restart, you'll be prompted to go through the initial setup process in Setup Assistant. That’s when you transfer the data from a backup.

    Select only users and Computer & Network Settings in the Setup Assistant dialog—not Applications or Other files and folders. Don't transfer the Guest account, if it was enabled.

    After that, check the App Store for software updates.

    If the problem is resolved after the clean installation, reinstall third-party software selectively. I can only suggest general guidelines. Self-contained applications that install into the Applications folder by drag-and-drop or download from the App Store are usually safe. Anything that comes packaged as an installer or that prompts for an administrator password is suspect, and you must test thoroughly after reinstalling each such item to make sure you haven't restored the problem.

    I strongly recommend that you never reinstall commercial "security" products or "utilities," nor any software that changes the user interface or the behavior of built-in applications such as Safari. If you do that, the problem is likely to recur.

    Any system modifications that you do choose to install must be kept up to date. None is required for normal operation.

    Before installing any software, ask yourself the question: "Am I sure I know how to uninstall this without having to wipe the volume again?" If the answer is "no," stop.

    Never install any third-party software unless you know how to uninstall it.

  • by Fabrizio Ferrari,

    Fabrizio Ferrari Fabrizio Ferrari Dec 19, 2014 1:33 PM in response to Linc Davis
    Level 2 (265 points)
    Dec 19, 2014 1:33 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Ok, that was what I wanted to try. Since it is a tedious process, and I have a lot of applications I use, I will try to do that during Christmas time. I hope all this energy will sort things out for me... but I am wondering: am I the only one among a few experiencing this Mail slonwess??!!

     

    In the meantime, I tried to update to Yosemite on another MacBook I have, and I see the exact same issue on there. It sounds like the new system has some issues, or something related to it.

     

    Thanks.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 19, 2014 2:37 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari
    Level 10 (208,037 points)
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    Dec 19, 2014 2:37 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari

    Can you run the test script on the other Mac?

  • by Fabrizio Ferrari,

    Fabrizio Ferrari Fabrizio Ferrari Dec 19, 2014 6:09 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 19, 2014 6:09 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Just tried: I get the exact same result as described above. I don't understand why, since I just paste the code I pasted in my previous posting above... ideas??!!

     

    Thank you again very much for your help.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 19, 2014 6:34 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari
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    Dec 19, 2014 6:34 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari

    I'm not there to look over your shoulder, but apparently the same thing is wrong with both machines. The remedy will also have to be the same.

  • by Fabrizio Ferrari,

    Fabrizio Ferrari Fabrizio Ferrari Dec 19, 2014 7:40 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 19, 2014 7:40 PM in response to Linc Davis

    I don't know what to say, but to copy and paste is a pretty simple thin, and as you saw above, I copied it correctly. When I paste it inside Terminal, that's what I get: output until these characters:

     

    '-L /S*/L*/{C*/Sec*A,Ex}* {/,}L*/{A*d,Ca*/*/Ex,

     

    Then 5 acoustic sounds are produced and nothing more happens. Terminal gets stuck.

     

    I will try to make a clean install later on. I would be extremely sad though if even that won't solve the problem. Thank you again.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 19, 2014 8:16 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari
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    Dec 19, 2014 8:16 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari

    I've posted that script thousands of times, and no one has ever reported the same problem as you. Knowing nothing about your configuration, I have no way to know what's causing the problem. This thread is already much too long, so I don't remember whether you tried to run the script in safe mode or in another account. If not, you can try that.

  • by Fabrizio Ferrari,

    Fabrizio Ferrari Fabrizio Ferrari Dec 21, 2014 3:49 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 21, 2014 3:49 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Do I need to try that script in Safe Mode? Please, let me know. I didn't do that, I did it in being logged with my regular account. Thanks.

  • by Fabrizio Ferrari,

    Fabrizio Ferrari Fabrizio Ferrari Dec 22, 2014 9:17 AM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari
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    Dec 22, 2014 9:17 AM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari

    Also, I am sorry to say it, but today Mail crashed again while I was writing an email!! **** it!!

     

    I went checking the Fontbook and still found 3 duplicates... what the heck??!! It is the 7th time I had to remove duplicates! Why do they keep appearing??!!!

     

    Any thoughts are very welcome.

     

    Thanks!

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 22, 2014 5:50 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari
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    Dec 22, 2014 5:50 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari

    The script would normally be able to run in safe mode.

  • by Fabrizio Ferrari,

    Fabrizio Ferrari Fabrizio Ferrari Dec 22, 2014 7:34 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 22, 2014 7:34 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Ok, I will try that later, and post my results.

     

    In the meantime, today I have followed the instructions below to install Yosemite from scratch on an external drive:

     

    OS X: Installing OS X on an external volume - Apple Support

     

    Just to understand if the problem disappears on a new, clean system with nothing but the default Apple apps. Well, once the system was installed on such an external drive, I launched Mail, configured it with just my main mailbox (which is the biggest one), and waited about 1 hour to have everything synchronized with the server (I have a pretty big IMAP mailbox with several folders and sub-folders.) After that, I tried to delete some messages, and moving them around.... well... same problem! No difference! Mail is still extremely slow!! What the heck??!!

     

    I really think Mail itself has some issues, or something is changed on Yosemite that makes it so slow.

     

    At this point, I am afraid, the option for a "clean-install" on my main drive cannot be the solution to my problem, and my only option looks like is waiting for Apple to release an update that could fix such a slowness... what do you think?

     

    I will try to paste the code above on my Mac rebooted in Safe Mode, and post the results as soon as possible.

     

    Thanks.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 22, 2014 7:47 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari
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    Dec 22, 2014 7:47 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari

    If you reproduced the problem while running from a clean installation, there's no need to run the test script. The problem is caused by the interaction between Mail and the mail server. All you can do about that is to use a different mail service provider or a different mail client. I don't have a specific recommendation.

  • by Fabrizio Ferrari,

    Fabrizio Ferrari Fabrizio Ferrari Dec 22, 2014 8:10 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 22, 2014 8:10 PM in response to Linc Davis

    So, you don't think the problem is with the new Mail itself? Why I don't have any problems with Mail on Mavericks? And why it works flawlessly on iPhone and iPad? Doesn't make much sense to me... as I said, something must have changed on Yosemite to cause this issue.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 22, 2014 8:31 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari
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    Dec 22, 2014 8:31 PM in response to Fabrizio Ferrari

    So, you don't think the problem is with the new Mail itself?

    I didn't say that.

    Why I don't have any problems with Mail on Mavericks? And why it works flawlessly on iPhone and iPad?

    Those are all different applications. Call it a bug if you like.

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