sageonthehill

Q: Mac slow after Yosemite 10.10.1 up-grade - kernel task?

Apart from many other issues, my Mac gets increasingly slow day by day after the Yosemite 10.10.1 upgrade. (Start-up much longer than before, apps take long time to open, lots of beach balls.)

 

I hear the HDD seems to be working hard, and I notice in the Activity Monitor that even before opening any App 3-4 GB of memory will be used immediately after start-up, the biggest being the kernel_task with about 500 MB. Can this be the cause? And if yes, what can I do about it?

 

I browsed this forum an noticed some older issues with the kernel_task as the root cause for a slow system, but apparently the solutions provided there do not apply to Yosemite 10.10.1

MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10), 15'' Mid 2010, 2.4 GHz i5, 8GB RAM

Posted on Dec 22, 2014 4:04 AM

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Q: Mac slow after Yosemite 10.10.1 up-grade - kernel task?

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  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Dec 22, 2014 5:08 AM in response to sageonthehill
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    Dec 22, 2014 5:08 AM in response to sageonthehill

    OS X is designed to use up your RAM. This is a good thing. Having lots of free RAM is not indicative of a healthy system. A large kernel_task process is to be expected. 500MB is actually pretty light.

     

    Have you checked the hard drive? A 4-year-old drive is on its last legs. You might want to consider getting an SSD to replace the drive. That will make your machine significantly faster.

     

    Alternatively, make sure you haven't got any third-party system extensions that haven't been updated for Yosemite.

     

    For slowness, check CPU in Activity Monitor, not memory.

  • by sageonthehill,

    sageonthehill sageonthehill Dec 22, 2014 5:57 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Dec 22, 2014 5:57 AM in response to benwiggy

    Thanks!

     

    I doubt it's the hard drive though. I have 62 of 320 GB available. The system performance was ok before the update to 10.10.1 from 10.10, so if the HD would be the root cause, I should have had similar problems before I guess.

     

    Meanwhile I noticed in the Console this line:

     

    kernel[0]: BUG in process suhelperd[197]: over-released legacy external boost assertions (1 total, 1 external, 0 legacy-external)

     

    which seems to be a Yosemite bug reported by many others leading to slow speed with apparently no solution, yet

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Dec 22, 2014 6:19 AM in response to sageonthehill
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    Dec 22, 2014 6:19 AM in response to sageonthehill

    If you have 3rd party additions, that may have worked in older Mac OS X versions, they may not be working well in Yosemite.

     

    Try posting the EtreCheck output

    <https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6174>

    Which will list the additions, and someone will help identify known trouble makers.

     

    You might also look in your Applications -> Utilities -> Console at the logs to see if there are frequently repeating entries.  A frequently repeating entry is often a sign that something is having problems in the current OS release.

     

    In Applications -> Utilities -> Activity Monitor if the Memory Pressure indicator is yellow or red, that is a sign the software you have been using (apps or 3rd party extensions, launch daemons & agents, startup items, login items, etc... may be consuming too much RAM and either there is a problem with the software, or you need to try doing fewer things at once, or maybe get more RAM.

  • by benwiggy,

    benwiggy benwiggy Dec 22, 2014 6:20 AM in response to sageonthehill
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    Dec 22, 2014 6:20 AM in response to sageonthehill

    sageonthehill wrote:

    I doubt it's the hard drive though. I have 62 of 320 GB available.

    A drive can had bad sectors, become corrupted, or just get plain cranky, all before failing entirely. The free space left is no indication of quality.

     

    Having said that: 62GB left on a 320GB drive is pretty small, and that in itself may be a performance factor.

  • by sageonthehill,

    sageonthehill sageonthehill Dec 22, 2014 9:46 AM in response to BobHarris
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    Dec 22, 2014 9:46 AM in response to BobHarris

    BobHarris wrote:

     

    ...

     

    You might also look in your Applications -> Utilities -> Console at the logs to see if there are frequently repeating entries.  A frequently repeating entry is often a sign that something is having problems in the current OS release.

     

    Thanks, Bob!

     

    As mentioned above, the biggest issue in the log seems to be

     

    22/12/2014 18:20:33.000 kernel[0]: BUG in process suhelperd[174]: over-released legacy external boost assertions (1 total, 1 external, 0 legacy-external)

     

    running across a couple of pages! Apart from this, there are many other entries which seem weird to a rookie like me, however, I probably should not paste all this here... There are a number related to

     

    com.apple.xpc.launchd

    WindowServer

    and

    22/12/2014 18:21:11.000 kernel[0]: Sandbox: appleeventsd(25) deny file-read-metadata /Library

     

    If anyone can help, I'll be happy to post more details from the log, but not sure which

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Dec 22, 2014 10:26 AM in response to sageonthehill
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    Dec 22, 2014 10:26 AM in response to sageonthehill

    suhelperd has been seen a lot (according to a Google search).  It seems to be the Software Update Helper, so it has been suggested turning off automatic software update checking or reducing the interval may reduce the number of errors seen.

     

    However, I do not think suhelperd is the cause of your slow downs.  I would suggest posting the EtreCheck output

    <https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6174>

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 22, 2014 11:44 AM in response to sageonthehill
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    Dec 22, 2014 11:44 AM in response to sageonthehill