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Dec 25, 2014 12:06 PM in response to UltimateDavidby Tom Wolsky,Why don't you download the trail version and see for yourself?
What's wrong with being an upgraded version of iMovie? iMovie's editing software. Any professional editing software is an upgraded version of iMovie.
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Dec 25, 2014 12:07 PM in response to UltimateDavidby Meg The Dog,You can download a 30 day free trial of FCP-X here:
http://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/trial/
and judge for yourself.
Don't let other opinions sway you - the test for software is how well it fits you.
MtD
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Dec 25, 2014 12:20 PM in response to UltimateDavidby Karsten Schlüter,UltimateDavid wrote:
... or just buy Premier or Avid?
you cannot buy AP or, soon, Avid.
only renting ...
if you don't pay the monthly lease, all your projects poof! ....
UltimateDavid wrote:
Many say that Final Cut Pro X is just an upgrade version of move ...
Who 'many'? Those using it don't say.
And: you're too late for this discussion, we had that, two years ago ...
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Dec 25, 2014 12:56 PM in response to Karsten Schlüterby Meg The Dog,Karsten Schlüter wrote:
if you don't pay the monthly lease, all your projects poof! ....
This is not correct. You would still have all your projects/media etc. You would not be able to access the software to continue to work on/modify them further - however, you can always purchase one month's (or month to month) access to the software, should you need to do so.
MtD
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Dec 25, 2014 10:56 PM in response to Meg The Dogby Karsten Schlüter,Meg The Dog wrote:
… You would still have all your projects/media etc. ....
c'mon, Meg, been there, ad nauseam, … :
You don't 'have' your projects, if you can't use them.
That simple.
You have to pay Adobe a monthly fee to use your projects, your movies, your creativity.
In return you get an awesome product (suite of products!), no doubt.
And it's a kind of 'maintenance contract' you're signing, to get always the latest updates - …
oops, last dozen updates&upgrades of FCPX were for free .... hmmmmm.-
Depending on which side of the pond you grew up, we have diff. 'perspective' on that:
in the US, historically reasoned (old, but still a good read, and telling the story of ©: N.Postman/Amusing Ourself To Death) the distributor is protected, therefor © was invented.
in Europe, historically reasoned, the creator is protected, therefor no © here, but 'author rights' ...
For me, it is just an 'uncomfortable' situation, that I should to pay every time I like to work on my projects ...
Both methods have their plus&minuses (has FCPX any disadvantages at all, to come back2topic?? )
yep, I'm biased ..........
Aside commercial & legal evaluation, all discussions in the end are about 'Interface' and 'Usage'.
Are you comfortable with multiple tracks and drawers/bins?
Or are you comfortable with a single storyline and flexible tags?
Lucky us, there are trials. Find out yourself.
And lucky us, both systems are avail!
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Dec 26, 2014 7:57 AM in response to UltimateDavidby David Bogie Chq-1,UltimateDavid wrote:
Many say that Final Cut Pro X is just an upgrade version of imove and nothing else. That many applications do not become any more good than they were in Pro 7. What do you think? Should I buy this kind of sofware or just buy Premier or Avid?
The fact that FCP, Premiere, and Avid are the three more popular high end video editing apps on the Macintosh does not in any way imply they are similar or appropriate or even adequate for your needs or that you will enjoy learning how to and then using any of them. Without knowing why you want a high end video editing system or anything about your proclivity for understanding and using software of this nature, why would any of us here, on an Apple-sponsored user forum for Final Cut Pro, recommend anything other than FCPX?
I'm going to spend your money for you: buy FCPX and Motion and Compressor. Invest in several learning tools for the products and never look back or you will always regret not buying one or both of the other two candidates.
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Dec 26, 2014 9:46 AM in response to David Bogie Chq-1by innocentius,Good comment David. Beside what you suggests I would recommend OP just stay with iMovie, which is an excellent software. After all video editing softwares do not make good movies, it is the editor. But I see that OP want something more.
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by Karsten Schlüter,Dec 27, 2014 1:40 AM in response to David Bogie Chq-1
Karsten Schlüter
Dec 27, 2014 1:40 AM
in response to David Bogie Chq-1
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Videoexcellent reply, David!
David Bogie Chq-1 wrote:
…why would any of us here, on an Apple-sponsored user forum for Final Cut Pro, recommend anything other than FCPX? …
I'm noticing (not scientifically proofed!) :
… on 'other' boards, users tend to fight for their set-up.
… on Apple-centric boards, people are more open-minded, objectively mentioning lacks&flaws in FCPX, or, for instance as an advice for free-lancers "Learn your clients software!" ... I would never imagine Avid for hobbyist-projects.
A last word upon 'iMovie on androids anabolics':
Don't get mislead by its 'simplicity'!
Under-the-hood there're tons of professional features.
Days are gone, "professional = complicated" ... you don't impress clients anymore by mastering zillions of buttons - speed&quality is asset..
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Dec 27, 2014 7:49 PM in response to Meg The Dogby Ziatron,This is not correct. You would still have all your projects/media etc. You would not be able to access the software to continue to work on/modify them further - however, you can always purchase one month's (or month to month) access to the software, should you need to do so.
This is a business model I will never have anything to do with.
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Dec 27, 2014 7:55 PM in response to David Bogie Chq-1by Ziatron,why would any of us here, on an Apple-sponsored user forum for Final Cut Pro, recommend anything other than FCPX?
Because we care about the customer ?
You have seen the movie “Miracle on 34th St." ? Remember the Santa Claus working at Macy's. He sent a few customers to Gimbel's department store when it best suited their needs.
The public reaction? It made them love Macy's.
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Dec 28, 2014 5:49 AM in response to Karsten Schlüterby Russ H,Since we haven't heard from the OP since the initial post, it's possible he was just stirring the pot.
Russ
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Dec 28, 2014 6:22 AM in response to UltimateDavidby Ian R. Brown,Just to add my off-topic two-pennyworth . . . I started my NL editing in 2001 with iMovie 2, a totally different beast from the current apps bearing the same name.
I made some d-a-m-n good films (for me!) but all the time I hankered after something "better", so I got Final Cut express 2 which had loads more bells and whistles to say nothing of the huge learning curve.
I had a great time playing with all the additional features but some folk noticed that my output of proper films was declining.
There was one other major app called Final Cut Studio (now legacy) which offered even more potential than FCE.
For a few years I hungered for it and then finally bought it . . . . only to discover that the bonus features were of no use to me!
Then came FCP X which I had to have for all its new capabilities, together with other apps, cameras, computers etc.
By now, the above-mentioned folk had noticed that though I talked a lot about video-editing, apps and equipment, and did loads of experiments, my film-making output (other than "holidays" and "babies on the lawn") had dwindled to zero.
So the moral of these musings is . . .
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Dec 28, 2014 8:33 AM in response to Ian R. Brownby innocentius,Where is the OP . vanished in the air. This has become a rule rather than exception. The OPS are waiting with open mouth waiting for solution from the silverspoon. Not only this OP but most of them. I have almost completely stopped to comment on this forum because of this. No response, no thank you, no this helped me, no this solved my issue. My guess is that the OPS are youngster that has never learned good manners.
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Dec 28, 2014 8:34 PM in response to Ian R. Brownby Ziatron,I started my NL editing in 2001 with iMovie 2, a totally different beast from the current apps bearing the same name.
I made some d-a-m-n good films (for me!) but all the time I hankered after something "better", so I got Final Cut express 2 which had loads more bells and whistles to say nothing of the huge learning curve.
I had a great time playing with all the additional features but some folk noticed that my output of proper films was declining.
You remind me of me.
I've tried a variety of Mac movie editors and I find myself going back to Apple products. With other companies going in the software rental business that will narrow the field for me quite a bit because I will not rent software as long as there are alternatives I can BUY.
After using about a dozen different movie editors, my favorite is iMovie HD 06 followed by Final Cut Pro X. Most of my movies end up on DVDs or Blu-Ray so that may bias me a little.