Experiences with Nikon D750 and Aperture

Hi,


a few weeks ago I bought a Nikon D750 – my camera before was a Nikon D700.


All in all I am disappointed about the quality of my photos with the D750 in Aperture – they’re all 14bit RAWs without compression. The problems e. g. are:

- Photos shot with the D750 at low light conditions at home are too much colour saturated - especially there’s too much red in it.

- Contrast is much too high.

- Dark areas are often black without details.


I looked at many of these photos in Adobe’s Lightroom. The RAW intepretation seems a bit better (especially regarding contrast and dark areas) but has other problems (e. g. with skin tones).


I made a few comparision photos with my D750 and the D700. All in all the D700 makes a much better job in home light conditions. You can see more details in the photos, colour saturation and contrast are better.


Can anyone confirm these problems? At the moment I am not sure if it is a problem of the D750 (which is reviewed everywhere so excellent!) or of the CameraRAW interpretation of Apple. Will future Camera RAW updates mabye have better interpretations?


Regards, Ulf

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.1), Aperture 3.6

Posted on Jan 3, 2015 9:11 AM

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Jan 11, 2015 9:43 AM in response to Uelef

To illustrate, what I mean: I shot today a photo (nothing special) with my lensbaby fisheye lens in low light.

That’s the way the photo looks like in Aperture 3.6 (I tried to improve it a bit):

User uploaded file

In Apertue the photo has to much contrast. But reducing it makes the photo ugly. You can also see that dark parts of the photo (not the black) tend to be brown and the transition between black and brown looks terrible.

The Same photo processed and also a bit improved with Lightroom 5.7 looks a lot better:

User uploaded file

You can see a lot more details - details you can never get with Aperture.

In my opinion Apple’s camera raw for the Nikon D750 makes a very bad job. A lot of my photos can not good be processed in Aperture.

Does anyone with the D750 make same experiences?

Mar 12, 2015 9:34 AM in response to Ernie Stamper

Sorry, at the moment I got no way to share a RAW file …


To illustrate one more time the problem with RAW files of the Nikon D750 in Aperture (and iPhoto and Photos.app either):

User uploaded file

The left image detail is from Aperture - there’s no way to get rid of the red-brown areas. The right image was developed with Lightroom 5.6. Everything is fine. The dark areas are grey and black.

I do not understand why no-one at Apple sees these problems and why there was nothing corrected in Camera RAW Update 6.03.

Jan 2, 2016 10:40 AM in response to Uelef

Hey there,


I also noticed quality issues with my D750 in the raw-files (later exports), but in the blue-colors. First I thought I exported a too compressed version of my images & went back to the original RAW file (lossless compressed, 14-bit, sRGB; particular image shot with iso 100 at good conditions) in Aperture and noticed the problems there as well. So next I just looked at the RAW-file in Previewer -- same problems. I continued to look for the latest 'Digital Camera RAW Compatibility Update (6.17), but the issues remain.


I am a bit frustrated by this at the moment.


Cheers,

-H

Jan 5, 2015 2:17 PM in response to Uelef

Hi Ulf,


check, whether your camera uses sRGB or Adobe RGB, then check in Nikon View NX 2 which xRGB View NX assigns to the photo, and then check in Aperture which xRGB Aperture assigns.

My guess is that your camera uses sRGB, View NX 2 assigns Nikon sRGB 4.0.0.3002, and Aperture assigns Adobe RGB (1998) to the photos.

If my guess is right, Aperture does not honor camera color space information.


Tejono

Jan 6, 2015 3:04 AM in response to Uelef

Force Apple to honour camera colour space information (hope they are reading this) ... .


I don't know. Just got my new Nikon and stumbled over the same. So far it seems you can't tell Aperture to change to a specific RGB-space or apply a RGB-space of your like. My suspicion is that Aperture by default applies sRGB to jpg and Adobe RGB to RAW.

Happily, if you export "Original" from Aperture and open it in View/Capture NX, the original colour space information is preserved (e.g. sRGB). I will try out the following two in the coming weeks:

a) I use Aperture merely as database/storage place for my photos and export originals from there for processing in View/Capture NX.

b) I take all photos in RAW and Adobe RGB and buy a new hard disk. And for consumer prints export them into sRGB-JPGs (Aperture lets specify the colour space at export).


One more thing: is your D700 using 14-bit-RAW with Adobe RGB while your D750 uses 12-bit-RAW with sRGB?


Tejono

Jan 29, 2015 1:34 AM in response to Uelef

3 weeks later … Apple has not delivered a new version of Camera RAW that solved my problems with the Nikon D750 and Aperture / iPhoto. Most photos are still looking awful in both applications (too much contrast, brown spots in low light areas, too much color saturation). Lightroom and Nikons Capture NX-D make a better job, but I don’t like the workflow in both.

Does no-one own a Nikon D750 and is using Aperture or iPhoto? I’m still looking for someone to confirm my problems, so I can be sure it’s not my camera that causes the problems.

Regards, Ulf

Feb 26, 2015 9:46 AM in response to Uelef

A couple things:


First, you keep talking about the "RAW color space." There is no such thing as a color space in a RAW file. Regardless of the camera settings you have (Adobe RGB or sRGB) it does not affect RAW files. The color space and other tweaks (saturation, vivid, black & white, etc.) only affect JPEG files and the preview you see on the back of the camera. RAW files do not have a color space, so there is no "color space information" for Apple to honor.


You can try tweaking the camera RAW parameters yourself if you don't like the default conversion. If you've been using Aperture for a long time, it will show up as the top adjustment brick in the list. If you're relatively recent to Aperture, the camera RAW brick is not shown by default. Add it, and then go look at the numbers for sharpness, boost, etc., and see if you can tweak them to get results you like better.

Feb 26, 2015 12:38 PM in response to William Lloyd

I tried to tweak the RAW parameters, it makes things a lot better, but neverthelesse I never had these problems with my D700. Setting down color saturation in RAW parameters (in German it's called "Farbton verstärken") causes other problems: photos get darker than they should be. In my opinion Camera RAW update has to tweak the standard settings for the D750.

Feb 28, 2015 4:00 PM in response to Uelef

FYI, the adobe 1998 color space profile is larger and more comprehensive than the sRGB profile settings in your Nikon body. In any case, your concerns are with the RAW file convertor that the Apple OSX applies to your RAW d750 imports into Aperture. Do you have the latest OSX 10.10.2 Yosemite upgrade applied to your platform? Also you can easily change the Aperture 3.6 Raw fine tuning adjustment brick to suit your import tastes for your d750. Also note that you will get different RAW rendered images on import if you use the latest version of Lightroom or Aperture. My suggestion is to shoot your d750 with RAW/NEF files on one card and JPEG files on the other card. Import both your RAW and JPEG files as originals into Aperture and you will see what the Nikon algorithms have baked into your JPEG imports, which you can then try and duplicate in Aperture or Lightroom with your RAW/NEF files.

Mar 9, 2015 9:28 AM in response to Allan Eckert

I gave them all a chance, but as long as Aperture is working, I will use it, because it’s the program with the best workflow.

BTW: It’s not a problem of Aperture but of Apples Camera RAW update, which shows the same problems with iPhoto and the new Photos.app (that is still beta). I reported the problem to Apple via feedback, maybe some-one will look into it …

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