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Jan 11, 2015 9:14 AM in response to kahjotby Kurt Lang,Yup. I delete all kinds of apps OS X says can't be removed. Does anyone really believe Chess is critical to the system?
Even if you never use it yourself, do not delete Automator. The OS and various third party apps use it in the background for various functions.
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Jan 11, 2015 6:19 PM in response to Kurt Langby kahjot,Kurt Lang wrote:
Yup. I delete all kinds of apps OS X says can't be removed. Does anyone really believe Chess is critical to the system?
Even if you never use it yourself, do not delete Automator. The OS and various third party apps use it in the background for various functions.
Bye bye Photo Booth…to be safe, I zip them, and then delete the app but keep the archive, just in case I need it back for some unforeseen reason.
I would never toss out Automator. I keep thinking that at some point, I'll have time to sit down and figure out a bunch of cool Automator stuff. I went to the Tiger launch at the SoHo Apple Store, and one of the new features that I was excited about was Automator, especially because my old friend QuicKeys was of so little use to me once I moved to OS X.
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Jan 12, 2015 6:23 AM in response to kahjotby Kurt Lang,Bye bye Photo Booth…to be safe, I zip them
I don't even do that, as I know I'll never use the ones I toss (which are quite a few). If something very unexpected happens where I do need one of them, I can always use Pacifist to reinstall just the one app from the full .dmg installer. Though pulling it out of a .zip file would be much faster.
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Apr 1, 2015 12:13 PM in response to napa-web-designerby Kurt Lang,The forums are telling me I can't post at times, too. I think the hosts are trying to lock down the forums against the heavy Korean spam that's been hitting them the past couple days, and it's fouling other things up.
Yes, you can just copy the fonts and the font collections files to another drive before erasing the main drive. When you put things back, the font collections of course go in the obvious place, but it's important that fonts go back into exactly the same folders they were copied from since that's where the links in the collections will look for them.
350 fonts is a good sized number, but isn't that many, especially if you have 8 or more GB of RAM installed.
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Apr 1, 2015 12:29 PM in response to Kurt Langby napa-web-designer,Thanks for the quick response.
I thought if I just added them back into those folders after erasing and reinstallling OSX that the contents of the folders would be inconsistent with the Font Book database and it was inconsistencies like that that cause problems. Am I missunderstanding?
Thanks,
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Apr 1, 2015 12:39 PM in response to napa-web-designerby Kurt Lang,I thought if I just added them back into those folders after erasing and reinstallling OSX that the contents of the folders would be inconsistent with the Font Book database and it was inconsistencies like that that cause problems. Am I misunderstanding?
Sort of. When you install Yosemite on the erased drive, do not launch Font Book until after you've returned the saved fonts back to their original, identical location(s). If they came from the Fonts folder in your user account, put them there. Once the fonts and your saved collections are all in place, then launch Font Book. It will create a new database (one should not have been created yet), so it will pick up not just the fonts the OS installed, but the ones you put back.
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Apr 1, 2015 12:48 PM in response to Kurt Langby napa-web-designer,thanks.
On a related topic, do you know of any comprehensive set of guidance for restoring application settings and content after an OS X erase and install?
I have been making a list of all of my applications and one by one looking for steps. I was wondering if there was a reference somewhere for at least the apple apps. Like I found this for iTunes which is great: Back up your iTunes library by copying it to an external drive - Apple Support. But have yet looked for others like iPhoto, Safari, iBooks, etc.
Again, thanks.
David
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Apr 1, 2015 12:58 PM in response to napa-web-designerby Kurt Lang,Just about all personal settings are in the Preferences folder of your user account. When I do an erase and install, I copy the Preferences folder to another drive. When I'm done reinstalling everything, I pull back all of the ones that make sense (like all of the Adobe app settings) so I don't have to set all of those again.
Actually, I create a .dmg backup of the entire drive I'm going to erase beforehand so I pull back not just preferences, but items in the Application Support folders, which depending on the app, keep some settings there along with support files.
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Jun 30, 2015 7:17 PM in response to Kurt Langby NMcQ,Kurt, I appreciate your advice, but I followed it to the letter and it didn't help. I'm on Yosemite, a new macbook pro, and when I open font book it immediately shows the beachball when I mouse over it. What's the next step after doing what you suggested?
thanks much,
Neil
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Jun 30, 2015 7:39 PM in response to NMcQby NMcQ,Kurt, another of your kind posts on another topic "seems" to have fixed it, namely removing font collections. I'll try to use it again, see what up. Thanks for your help and sharing your knowledge.
Neil
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Jul 1, 2015 9:14 AM in response to NMcQby Kurt Lang,Yes, when all else fails, it's then usually corrupt font collections. If it's any of the default ones supplied with OS X, it's no big deal to just get rid of them. They aren't important in any way. More than anything, they're just samples of how to use sets.
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Aug 4, 2015 10:43 AM in response to Kurt Langby myretinai7,i'm a visual editor and motion graphics artist. i've just shifted from pc to iMac retina 5k 32gb ram and happened to installed all my fonts around 8000 plus, and I'm having trouble while using fonts in adobe collection 2015 . i've tried to remove cache by pressing shift and restarting it and terminal cmd sudo atsutil databases -remove but still facing the same problem. what should i do? plz help me.
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Aug 4, 2015 11:02 AM in response to myretinai7by Kurt Lang,8000 fonts is really just too much for Font Book to handle. It's not a font manager intended for such heavy commercial use. But no matter what OS you're talking about, having that many active all the time is going to eat up a lot of RAM and slow all apps down that display font lists since they have to populate and keep track of very long lists. Which means not only are the fonts themselves eating up RAM, but each app is doubling down on that RAM usage to keep track of those fonts. Activate what you need for the project at hand. Keep the rest disabled.
It's been linked to at the top of this topic, but you may want to read through my article, Font Management in OS X.
For the type of work you do, I would delete Font Book and use a much more robust font manager. Personally, I use Suitcase Fusion. But FontExplorer X Pro is also a very capable manager. I see the latter has come out with version 5. I'll have to download that and look it over.
If you do decide to use a different font manager, Font Book must be removed from the drive, as would be the case with any other font manager so only one app is controlling your fonts. How to remove Font Book and its database are at the bottom of section 6 in my article.
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